Re: Lenny installer hanging?
I have also come across the same problem as Adam on a FLEX-ES system running z/VM 5.2 where it hangs in exactly the same place. A quick test of just IPL'ing under Hercules from tape though works just fine so I just need to test using tape on FLEX-ES under z/VM. One thing that might be a problem is that FLEX-ES does not support QDIO and this version of Debian only supports CTC, QETH and IUCV so instead of defining OSA in the FLEX-ES configuration file you might want to try CTC instead (which is what I did under Hercules.) -- MfG / Best Regards Sebastian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny installer hanging?
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:06:04PM -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: So, is there something I'm doing wrong? Not that I spot anything. This is a perfectly normal (if slow) z/VM development system (yes, it's actually emulated, but for all that, IBM still recognizes Flex boxes as being legitimate s390x machines until the last dongle has expired!). It runs Etch, SLES10, and CentOS 4.4 just fine, and it runs z/VM 5.2 and z/OS 1.9 fine too. Etch, SLES10 and CentOS 4.4 are much older. Is there something in newer Linux kernels that requires z9 or later functionality? No. They work fine on z900. Can you try if a new kernel will work at all on this system? Bastian -- Killing is stupid; useless! -- McCoy, A Private Little War, stardate 4211.8 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny installer hanging?
It seems that 2.6.26-2.6.27 have a regression that hangs my machine during startup of the kernel, that has something to do with HPET. I can stop it by using hpet=disable. It seems other people have trouble with other chipsets, too. 2.6.28 seems to be fine. Maybe it's the same bug? Though my machine is x86_64, it might be a valid speculation. Cheers Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny installer hanging?
Dan Dart wrote: It seems that 2.6.26-2.6.27 have a regression that hangs my machine during startup of the kernel, that has something to do with HPET. I can stop it by using hpet=disable. It seems other people have trouble with other chipsets, too. 2.6.28 seems to be fine. Maybe it's the same bug? Though my machine is x86_64, it might be a valid speculation. Cheers Dan Err.. We're talking about a s390/s390x issue here.. (namely a problem with booting/IPLing the s390 Lenny debian install from within IBM's z/VM) I don't think HPET applies here.. (correction.. I am *certain* HPET doesn't apply here).. But thanks for the suggestion Dan ! Bastian.. I did encounter that problem too.. In a totally different environment.. (still under z/VM).. Especially the di that can be found at http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-s390/20081029/images/ is broken. - or at least, in my case, hanging at the place/same circumstances as indicated by Adam.. And using the etch one (http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-s390/current/images/tape/) is a pain in the neck because there is a (known) mismatch between the kernel and /lib/modules (it can be overcome.. mv modprobe do wonders.. but it's not seamless !).. Once the installer is done (after having jumped through all the hoops), there is no problem upgrading to a newer kernel. (which seem to indicate a recent kernel doesn't have a problem in that environment). The question is : would it be possible to have a more recent DI build for s390 (more recent than October 27th 2008) - and especially with a newer kernel ? (note that 2.6.25 might be an issue. (there is a PSF/PRSSD issue that's of some concern to me) 2.6.26 version updated by Frans Pop should be fine.. and 2.6.27 shouldn't have any problem).. a current unstable (and possibly testing) linux-2.6-s390(x) unstable should do anyway. -Ivan (PS : Sorry dan .. you're going to get this one in duplicate.. I'm so used to hitting 'reply' to reply to a mailing list I didn't realize I was sending my response to you only instead of the ML). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Lenny installer hanging?
On Jan 9, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Dan Dart wrote: It seems that 2.6.26-2.6.27 have a regression that hangs my machine during startup of the kernel, that has something to do with HPET. I can stop it by using hpet=disable. It seems other people have trouble with other chipsets, too. 2.6.28 seems to be fine. Maybe it's the same bug? Though my machine is x86_64, it might be a valid speculation. Tried with parmline ro locale=C hpet=disable But same symptoms. Hangs after initializing cgroup subsys devices Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny installer hanging, replace SUSE with Lenny
booting/IPLing the s390 Lenny debian install from within IBM's z/VM) Whoops. Got the wrong end of the stick. I was thinking boot problems with the kernel... since we're using the same (ish) kernel and both having problems with freezing, I thought it might have some similarity. Never mind. Plus. does anyone have a safe way to replace SUSE with Debian while running SUSE? (This IS on s/390 now, haha) I have experimented with debootstrap and have found it to be a great tool. But how would I go about making it permanent? Do I make sure openssh-server is installed, install debian from inside a chroot, to outside it, or is there a better way? Cheers Dan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny installer hanging?
Ivan Warren wrote: The question is : would it be possible to have a more recent DI build for s390 (more recent than October 27th 2008) - and especially with a newer kernel ? You could try a daily built image from [1], which uses 2.6.26-12 (current unstable/testing kernel based on upstream 2.6.26.8). note that 2.6.25 might be an issue. Hmmm? The Lenny RC1 image also uses 2.6.26, though based on a somewhat older upstream stable update. So .25 cannot be an issue here. PSF/PRSSD issue that's of some concern to me) 2.6.26 version updated by Frans Pop should be fine.. and 2.6.27 shouldn't have any problem) 2.6.27 is likely to get skipped for Debian as the kernel will not be updated until after Lenny is released and that will certainly be with 2.6.26. Cheers, FJP [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Lenny installer hanging
Lenny 2.6.26-1 fails identically to Lenny d-i. (after aptitude dist- upgrade). Frans Pop reassigned bug 511334 to the kernel, which seems right. Etchnhalf kernel is fine. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny installer hanging, replace SUSE with Lenny
Here's how I'd do it: Set up a new disk (this does require that you can get a new chunk of DASD; under z/VM, of course, this is usually really easy. LPAR, not so much.) Mount it from the SuSE system. Bind-mount /sys, /proc, /dev debootstrap into the new disk run mkinitrd/zipl on the new disk Then shutdown the SuSE system and IPL from the new device. Adam I can't really do this.. I only have one disk (DASD), and I have to do it INSIDE the VM environment... I'm not the admin, I have root on one of the VMs, that's it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
