Re: Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-23 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 03:39:52PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 23.11.2013 13:52, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:44:04AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >> Am 23.11.2013 03:33, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> >>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>  Am 12.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default
> > compiler, while most other architectures have already switched to
> > GCC 4.8. It starts to cause problem for building packages: some
> > packages need C11 features to be compiled, while some others assume
> > the default compiler is already GCC 4.8 (in that case they are
> > actually buggy). It would also help having the same default version
> > of GCC than for GCJ, GDC or GFORTRAN.
> > 
> > I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC
> > 4.8 by default. It is already used to build the kernel without any
> > known issue.
> > 
> > Any comments or opinion on that?
>  
>  Is this a commitment from Philipp, Bastian or your side to monitor
>  for s390x specific toolchain issues, forward these upstream and feed
>  these back into Debian?
>  
> >>> 
> >>> It is a commitment from my side, although s390x is well tested upstream
> >>> and there is therefore not a lot to do.
> >> 
> >> please update debian/README.Debian in gcc-4.8.
> >> 
> > 
> > Done. That said I still don't understand why only a limited list of 
> > architectures have to do that. I do not believe that architectures not 
> > listed there are actually better supported in Debian.
> 
> It's the other way around. Every architecture should have an entry. But maybe
> it is easier to mention which architectures currently don't have such entries,
> namely sparc, s390, ia64, powerpc, ppc64.

s390 is dead and is still only available for squeeze and wheezy, so it
doesn't matter for jessie and sid.

> x86 should be waived. we do have active contributors for kfreebsd, the hurd,
> m68k, alpha, powerpcspe, mips64, hppa at least.

If they have active contributors, I think they should also be noted
there, otherwise this file is more than useless. Or we should remove
mips and s390x entries.

> arm* is missing here, but it
> is usually taken care of by myself.

Well then why you don't add yourself there? Note that they are a few
worrying bugs on armel like #628063, #697521, #727621 that have not been
forwarded upstream yet.

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Re: Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-23 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 23.11.2013 13:52, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:44:04AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>> Am 23.11.2013 03:33, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Am 12.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> Hi all,
> 
> The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default
> compiler, while most other architectures have already switched to
> GCC 4.8. It starts to cause problem for building packages: some
> packages need C11 features to be compiled, while some others assume
> the default compiler is already GCC 4.8 (in that case they are
> actually buggy). It would also help having the same default version
> of GCC than for GCJ, GDC or GFORTRAN.
> 
> I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC
> 4.8 by default. It is already used to build the kernel without any
> known issue.
> 
> Any comments or opinion on that?
 
 Is this a commitment from Philipp, Bastian or your side to monitor
 for s390x specific toolchain issues, forward these upstream and feed
 these back into Debian?
 
>>> 
>>> It is a commitment from my side, although s390x is well tested upstream
>>> and there is therefore not a lot to do.
>> 
>> please update debian/README.Debian in gcc-4.8.
>> 
> 
> Done. That said I still don't understand why only a limited list of 
> architectures have to do that. I do not believe that architectures not 
> listed there are actually better supported in Debian.

It's the other way around. Every architecture should have an entry. But maybe
it is easier to mention which architectures currently don't have such entries,
namely sparc, s390, ia64, powerpc, ppc64.

x86 should be waived. we do have active contributors for kfreebsd, the hurd,
m68k, alpha, powerpcspe, mips64, hppa at least.  arm* is missing here, but it
is usually taken care of by myself.

  Matthias


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Re: Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-23 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:44:04AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 23.11.2013 03:33, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >> Am 12.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> 
> >>> The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default compiler,
> >>>  while most other architectures have already switched to GCC 4.8. It
> >>> starts to cause problem for building packages: some packages need C11
> >>> features to be compiled, while some others assume the default compiler
> >>> is already GCC 4.8 (in that case they are actually buggy). It would
> >>> also help having the same default version of GCC than for GCJ, GDC or
> >>> GFORTRAN.
> >>> 
> >>> I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC 4.8
> >>> by default. It is already used to build the kernel without any known
> >>> issue.
> >>> 
> >>> Any comments or opinion on that?
> >> 
> >> Is this a commitment from Philipp, Bastian or your side to monitor for
> >> s390x specific toolchain issues, forward these upstream and feed these
> >> back into Debian?
> >> 
> > 
> > It is a commitment from my side, although s390x is well tested upstream and
> > there is therefore not a lot to do.
> 
> please update debian/README.Debian in gcc-4.8.
> 

Done. That said I still don't understand why only a limited list of
architectures have to do that. I do not believe that architectures not
listed there are actually better supported in Debian.

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Re: Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-23 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 23.11.2013 03:33, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>> Am 12.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default compiler,
>>>  while most other architectures have already switched to GCC 4.8. It
>>> starts to cause problem for building packages: some packages need C11
>>> features to be compiled, while some others assume the default compiler
>>> is already GCC 4.8 (in that case they are actually buggy). It would
>>> also help having the same default version of GCC than for GCJ, GDC or
>>> GFORTRAN.
>>> 
>>> I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC 4.8
>>> by default. It is already used to build the kernel without any known
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Any comments or opinion on that?
>> 
>> Is this a commitment from Philipp, Bastian or your side to monitor for
>> s390x specific toolchain issues, forward these upstream and feed these
>> back into Debian?
>> 
> 
> It is a commitment from my side, although s390x is well tested upstream and
> there is therefore not a lot to do.

please update debian/README.Debian in gcc-4.8.


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Re: Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-22 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 12.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default compiler, 
> > while most other architectures have already switched to GCC 4.8. It starts
> > to cause problem for building packages: some packages need C11 features to
> > be compiled, while some others assume the default compiler is already GCC
> > 4.8 (in that case they are actually buggy). It would also help having the
> > same default version of GCC than for GCJ, GDC or GFORTRAN.
> > 
> > I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC 4.8 by
> > default. It is already used to build the kernel without any known issue.
> > 
> > Any comments or opinion on that?
> 
> Is this a commitment from Philipp, Bastian or your side to monitor for s390x
> specific toolchain issues, forward these upstream and feed these back into 
> Debian?
> 

It is a commitment from my side, although s390x is well tested upstream
and there is therefore not a lot to do.

Note that I have just done the change in the SVN, it would be nice if
you can upload gcc-defaults.

Best regards,
Aurelien

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Re: Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-18 Thread Matthias Klose
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Am 12.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Aurelien Jarno:
> Hi all,
> 
> The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default compiler, 
> while most other architectures have already switched to GCC 4.8. It starts
> to cause problem for building packages: some packages need C11 features to
> be compiled, while some others assume the default compiler is already GCC
> 4.8 (in that case they are actually buggy). It would also help having the
> same default version of GCC than for GCJ, GDC or GFORTRAN.
> 
> I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC 4.8 by
> default. It is already used to build the kernel without any known issue.
> 
> Any comments or opinion on that?

Is this a commitment from Philipp, Bastian or your side to monitor for s390x
specific toolchain issues, forward these upstream and feed these back into 
Debian?

  Matthias

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Switch default GCC to 4.8 on s390x

2013-11-12 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi all,

The s390x architecture is still using GCC 4.6 as the default compiler, 
while most other architectures have already switched to GCC 4.8. It
starts to cause problem for building packages: some packages need 
C11 features to be compiled, while some others assume the default
compiler is already GCC 4.8 (in that case they are actually buggy). It
would also help having the same default version of GCC than for GCJ, GDC
or GFORTRAN.

I therefore propose to switch the default compiler on s390x to GCC 4.8
by default. It is already used to build the kernel without any known
issue.

Any comments or opinion on that?

Best regards,
Aurelien

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