Re: Package categories

2008-07-24 Thread Christophe Prud'homme
 === Finite Element Analysis ===
 proposed -- field::physics:fea
  (it isn't clear to me that this should be in physics rather than 
 engineering, so maybe field::fea would be better)
agreed or field::engineering::fea if field::engineering exists
note that it could also fit in math / numerical methods for those who
are interested in developing  numerical methods in the codes below


 Exotk
 Code_Aster
 OpenFoam
 OpenFLOWer


 Salome
to my knowledge Salome does not provide a fe code !


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Re: Package categories

2008-07-24 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:44 +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
 Christophe Prud'homme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Salome
  to my knowledge Salome does not provide a fe code !
  
 
 AFAICT from http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/
 while salome doesn't perform FEA calculations, it can be used to
 create meshes and display results from FEA - which is why I suggested
 it in that category. It wouldn't however fit in a numerical methods
 category.

Indeed: Salomé proper doesn't include a solver, but it does just about
everything else (meshing, MED file editing, post-processing).  And
Salomé-MECA adds modules to set up and monitor/control a complex Aster
run, so in a sense it is a complete FEA front end.

Unfortunately, Salomé recent source code is not available, and most of
-MECA source has never been released. :-(  However, Sylvestre is in
close contact with developers, and it looks like there will be progress
by the end of the year.

-Adam
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Re: Package categories

2008-07-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:30:04PM +0100, Chris Walker a écrit :
 
 Is kst [A KDE application used for displaying scientific data] incorrectly 
 tagged?

In my opinion, yes. The drawback with Debtags is that tagging is
anonymous, so we can't discuss with the person who tagged kst
Field::Chemistry. But I would suggest asking the maintainer and CCing
Debichem to confirm that this tag can be removed.


 Can someone explain the rationale for having both field::biology and
 biology::*.

Unfortunately, they stem from a disagreement between me and the Debtags
team. I wanted a Suite::EMBOSS and a few works-with and
works-with-format tags related to biology, and they objected that it was
too specialised. They created the biology::facet instead. I do not think
that I want to use it.

Here is the complete discussion.

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debtags-devel/2007-September/001680.html

I will go through the packages relevant to Debian Med and reopen the
discussion with solid numbers about how many packages would use this or
that proposed tag.

Have a nice day,

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Charles


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Re: Package categories

2008-07-24 Thread Chris Walker
Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 07:03:58PM +0100, Chris Walker a écrit :
  
  The debtags available don't seem to have quite enough granularity -
  but perhaps I've missed something - so I've knocked up a very
  incomplete list of sections that packages might drop into.
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 If I understand correctly, the Debtags are not granular on puropse.
 Better categorisation is supposed to be acheived by combining them. 

Yes. Furthermore, there are some programs that cross categories. For
example, if one were to propose a tag Field::Crystallography [1], then
that tag would be appropriate to molecular visualisation programs that
had support for crystals - eg by allowing multiple unit cells etc.


 For
 instance Field::Chemistry, Use::Viewer instead of
 Field::Chemistry:Molecular grahpics.

How does that distinguish it from the plotting program kst [2] - which
is currently tagged Field::Chemistry and use::viewing

Is kst incorrectly tagged? If not, should all the other scientific
plotting programs be tagged chemistry too - or does kst have some
chemistry specific features?


 This said, there are cases where creating subfacets are definitely the
 best solution. For instance for biology, we obtained the creation of the
 Field::Biology:molecular, :bioinformatics and :structural subfacets.

As well as 

* biology::emboss: EMBOSS
  Packages related to the European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite.

* biology::format:aln: Clustal/ALN
  Used in multiple alignment of biological sequences.

* biology::format:fasta: Nexus
  Popular format for phylogenetic trees.

* biology::nuceleic-acids: Nucleic Acids Software that works with
  sequences of nucleic acids: DNA, RNA but also non-natural
  nucleic acids such as PNA or LNA.

* biology::peptidic: Proteins
  Software that works with sequences of aminoacids: peptides and proteins.


Can someone explain the rationale for having both field::biology and
biology::*.


Chris


[1] I do wonder about a field::cystallography - to encompas packages
for real and reciprocal space study (X-ray, neutron and electron
diffraction) of crystalline materials.

[2] kst: A KDE application used for displaying scientific data

This is a metapackage for kst which installs all of the relevant packages.

kst is a program for examining data streams which can plot x-y
plots, power spectra, histograms and equations (including
equations of data streams). It can also be used to examine data in
files which are being updated as data is being logged, in which
case it can act as a plotter for a chart recorder.


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