Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Andreas Tille]

Hi Alexander,

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 06:17:47PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > GNOME Team's current pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth and the Games
> > Team's pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth)?
> > 
> > A few packages and pseudo-packages already have lists.d.o mailing lists
> > as their Maintainer, for instance debian-boot and debian-kernel. I know
> > some GNOME team developers have suggested having debian-gtk-gnome as our
> > canonical maintainer address: Alexander, presumably your response means
> > that this would be considered inappropriate, and the GNOME team should
> > keep debian-gtk-gnome as a discussion list only?
> We are happy running lists like debian-boot that are used for discussions,
> bugs and commit messages. But please not things like bugs and commit messages
> only lists. So if -gtk decides a one for all list fits them we are happy with
> it, but we won't run for example a -gkt-commits and -gtk-bugs list.

I think it became clear what we do not want @lists.debian.org.  However,
what we want is a common maintainer list for team maintenance.  I have
not yet understand how this can be replaced.  It is a feature several
teams are relying on and we want to adapt the maintainer field to this.

Kind regards

  Andreas.

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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Anton Gladky]

2017-12-26 18:15 GMT+01:00 Alexander Wirt :
>> On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 16:02 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:

>> > We don't want maintainter lists on l.d.o
>>
>> Why not?
> The infrastructure and tools are not good in maintaining such a huge number
> of lists.

That is OK, but can we then have @lists.alioth.debian.org running
or it is planned to disable it also?

Thanks

Anton

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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Ben Hutchings]

On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 16:02 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Anton Gladky wrote:
> 
> > 2017-12-26 15:05 GMT+01:00 Ole Streicher :
> > > Maintainer: Debian Science Team 
> > 
> > I think we should request the list something like
> > debian-science-maintain...@lists.debian.org
> > and use it instead of @lists.alioth.debian.org
> 
> We don't want maintainter lists on l.d.o

Why not?

Ben.

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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Alexander Wirt]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Ben Hutchings wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 16:02 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Anton Gladky wrote:
> > 
> > > 2017-12-26 15:05 GMT+01:00 Ole Streicher :
> > > > Maintainer: Debian Science Team 
> > > 
> > > I think we should request the list something like
> > > debian-science-maintain...@lists.debian.org
> > > and use it instead of @lists.alioth.debian.org
> > 
> > We don't want maintainter lists on l.d.o
> 
> Why not?
The infrastructure and tools are not good in maintaining such a huge number
of lists. 

Alex


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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Alexander Wirt]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Simon McVittie wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 at 16:02:08 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Anton Gladky wrote:
> > > I think we should request the list something like
> > > debian-science-maintain...@lists.debian.org
> > > and use it instead of @lists.alioth.debian.org
> >
> > We don't want maintainter lists on l.d.o
> 
> I assume the intended policy is that lists.debian.org is suitable for
> discussion lists (like the GNOME Team's debian-gtk-gnome@lists and
> the Games Team's debian-devel-games@lists), but not for the maintainer
> address of record that gets all the bugs and other bulk mail (like the
> GNOME Team's current pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth and the Games
> Team's pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth)?
> 
> A few packages and pseudo-packages already have lists.d.o mailing lists
> as their Maintainer, for instance debian-boot and debian-kernel. I know
> some GNOME team developers have suggested having debian-gtk-gnome as our
> canonical maintainer address: Alexander, presumably your response means
> that this would be considered inappropriate, and the GNOME team should
> keep debian-gtk-gnome as a discussion list only?
We are happy running lists like debian-boot that are used for discussions,
bugs and commit messages. But please not things like bugs and commit messages
only lists. So if -gtk decides a one for all list fits them we are happy with
it, but we won't run for example a -gkt-commits and -gtk-bugs list.

Alex
 

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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Simon McVittie]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2017 at 16:02:08 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Anton Gladky wrote:
> > I think we should request the list something like
> > debian-science-maintain...@lists.debian.org
> > and use it instead of @lists.alioth.debian.org
>
> We don't want maintainter lists on l.d.o

I assume the intended policy is that lists.debian.org is suitable for
discussion lists (like the GNOME Team's debian-gtk-gnome@lists and
the Games Team's debian-devel-games@lists), but not for the maintainer
address of record that gets all the bugs and other bulk mail (like the
GNOME Team's current pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth and the Games
Team's pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth)?

A few packages and pseudo-packages already have lists.d.o mailing lists
as their Maintainer, for instance debian-boot and debian-kernel. I know
some GNOME team developers have suggested having debian-gtk-gnome as our
canonical maintainer address: Alexander, presumably your response means
that this would be considered inappropriate, and the GNOME team should
keep debian-gtk-gnome as a discussion list only?

smcv

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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Alexander Wirt]

On Tue, 26 Dec 2017, Anton Gladky wrote:

> 2017-12-26 15:05 GMT+01:00 Ole Streicher :
> > Maintainer: Debian Science Team 
> 
> I think we should request the list something like
> debian-science-maintain...@lists.debian.org
> and use it instead of @lists.alioth.debian.org
We don't want maintainter lists on l.d.o

Alex - speaking as and for the listmasters
 

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Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

[Anton Gladky]

2017-12-26 15:05 GMT+01:00 Ole Streicher :
> Maintainer: Debian Science Team 

I think we should request the list something like
debian-science-maintain...@lists.debian.org
and use it instead of @lists.alioth.debian.org

Cheers

Anton

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