Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff
Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
appropriate.
I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.

- Original Message -
From: Emil Perhinschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Gary MacDougall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages


 I guess giving up some freedom for the sake of some security means also
 giving up the right to define what security is.

 I'd prefer to face the common terrorists rather than the
 terrorist state. I'll still have a chance to fight back.





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Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Thiemo Nagel
Jeff wrote:
Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
appropriate.
I really have to say that I heartily enjoyed this thread. In my opinion 
from time to time it is fair for us to allow ourselves the luxury of a 
lengthy off-topic discussion on a political topic. We enjoy some 
pleasant diversion and get to know each other better, personally. This 
is much better than the usual spam or unsubscribe discussions, by 
the way.

Now on the (off-)topic: decrease in civil rights, increase in military 
and intelligence spending, (self-)censored press, failure of the system 
of separation of powers, leader without legitimation by the people, 
pre-emptive war

I am frightened. And I'm not talking about North Korea nor Iran nor Iraq.

regards,

Thiemo Nagel



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Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 14:20, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
 Jeff wrote:
  Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
  appropriate.
 
 I really have to say that I heartily enjoyed this thread. In my opinion 
 from time to time it is fair for us to allow ourselves the luxury of a 
 lengthy off-topic discussion on a political topic. We enjoy some 
 pleasant diversion and get to know each other better, personally. This 
 is much better than the usual spam or unsubscribe discussions, by 
 the way.
 
 Now on the (off-)topic: decrease in civil rights, increase in military 
 and intelligence spending, (self-)censored press, failure of the system 
 of separation of powers, leader without legitimation by the people, 
 pre-emptive war
 
 I am frightened. And I'm not talking about North Korea nor Iran nor Iraq.
 
 regards,
 
 Thiemo Nagel

There are fora where it is on topic, but this thread has long since left
the range of this particular forum's designated discussion. It may be
interesting to some here as a thread, but take it to where the thread is
actually on topic - any of Usenet's civil liberties newsgroups, for
instance.
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Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 10 March 2003 18:10, Jeff wrote:
 Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
 appropriate.
 I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.

You do realize that this is completely the wrong list then?

Come on, Emil already _stated_ that his message was off-topic[1] and even 
offered an inventive reason why he posted nonetheless.

Cheers,
Yven

[1]: I actually found it quite interesting in spite of that, just as the other 
mails in this thread...

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Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff
Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
appropriate.
I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.

- Original Message -
From: Emil Perhinschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-security@lists.debian.org
Cc: Gary MacDougall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages


 I guess giving up some freedom for the sake of some security means also
 giving up the right to define what security is.

 I'd prefer to face the common terrorists rather than the
 terrorist state. I'll still have a chance to fight back.






Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Thiemo Nagel

Jeff wrote:

Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
appropriate.


I really have to say that I heartily enjoyed this thread. In my opinion 
from time to time it is fair for us to allow ourselves the luxury of a 
lengthy off-topic discussion on a political topic. We enjoy some 
pleasant diversion and get to know each other better, personally. This 
is much better than the usual spam or unsubscribe discussions, by 
the way.


Now on the (off-)topic: decrease in civil rights, increase in military 
and intelligence spending, (self-)censored press, failure of the system 
of separation of powers, leader without legitimation by the people, 
pre-emptive war


I am frightened. And I'm not talking about North Korea nor Iran nor Iraq.

regards,

Thiemo Nagel




Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 14:20, Thiemo Nagel wrote:
 Jeff wrote:
  Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
  appropriate.
 
 I really have to say that I heartily enjoyed this thread. In my opinion 
 from time to time it is fair for us to allow ourselves the luxury of a 
 lengthy off-topic discussion on a political topic. We enjoy some 
 pleasant diversion and get to know each other better, personally. This 
 is much better than the usual spam or unsubscribe discussions, by 
 the way.
 
 Now on the (off-)topic: decrease in civil rights, increase in military 
 and intelligence spending, (self-)censored press, failure of the system 
 of separation of powers, leader without legitimation by the people, 
 pre-emptive war
 
 I am frightened. And I'm not talking about North Korea nor Iran nor Iraq.
 
 regards,
 
 Thiemo Nagel

There are fora where it is on topic, but this thread has long since left
the range of this particular forum's designated discussion. It may be
interesting to some here as a thread, but take it to where the thread is
actually on topic - any of Usenet's civil liberties newsgroups, for
instance.
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ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting
Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935
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Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 10 March 2003 18:10, Jeff wrote:
 Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more
 appropriate.
 I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements.

You do realize that this is completely the wrong list then?

Come on, Emil already _stated_ that his message was off-topic[1] and even 
offered an inventive reason why he posted nonetheless.

Cheers,
Yven

[1]: I actually found it quite interesting in spite of that, just as the other 
mails in this thread...

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