Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread Paul Baker


On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 07:47 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:


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Debian Security Advisory DSA-136-1   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.debian.org/security/ Wichert Akkerman
July 30, 2002
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Package: openssl
Problem type   : multiple remote exploits
Debian-specific: no
CVE: CAN-2002-0655 CAN-2002-0656 CAN-2002-0657 CAN-2002-0659

[..snip..]

These vulnerabilities are also present in Debian 2.2 (potato), but no
fix is available at this moment.

We recommend you upgrade your OpenSSL as soon as possible. Note that you
should restart any daemons running SSL. (E.g., ssh or ssl-enabled
apache.)



Is there an ETA yet on potato packages, or should I continue to try and 
backport the woody packages to my potato machines myself?


--
Paul Baker

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

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Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread Ted Deppner
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:19:52PM -0500, Paul Baker wrote:
 Is there an ETA yet on potato packages, or should I continue to try and 
 backport the woody packages to my potato machines myself?

Just as an encouragement, the upgrade process from potato to woody is
pretty painless.  I've already done all my public facing machines without
any real service downtime, need to reboot, etc.

You'll only encounter issues if you have local compiles of packages, but
you should know where those are.

Taken in stages,
  apt-get install libc6 # do the core libc
  apt-get -u upgrade# do the easy to determine stuff
  apt-get -u dist-upgrade   # do the rest, you can do these each by
# hand too...

Is managable, and won't result (at least in my cases) in any hard down
time.  Yes daemons to stop and restart during the process, so it's best to
do these at during off-peak times.

I've done about 6 machines so far, from firewalls, web, smtp, etc, and
haven't had a single issue yet.

-- 
Ted Deppner
http://www.psyber.com/~ted/



Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread Paul Baker

On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 01:33 PM, Ted Deppner wrote:


On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:19:52PM -0500, Paul Baker wrote:

Is there an ETA yet on potato packages, or should I continue to try and
backport the woody packages to my potato machines myself?


Just as an encouragement, the upgrade process from potato to woody is
pretty painless.  I've already done all my public facing machines 
without

any real service downtime, need to reboot, etc.


Yeah it *should* be painless. Unfortuneately, we are using our own 
compiled apache, mod*, mysql, and a few other things in /usr/local. As 
part of the upgrade to woody though I want to start using only Debian 
versions of software. So there is a bit of extra testing/configuring 
involved to make that work. We also were using our own version of perl 
5.6.1 in /usr/local. Want to start using Debian's 5.6.1. This also means 
that any locally installed CPAN modules will be in the wrong place to 
work with that perl, so there is further work involved in making sure 
that all the perl modules we are using get installed from woody, and if 
not, that we get them from sid, or make them ourselves.


Further than that I also want to make all of our own companies software 
into Debian packages as part of the rollout of Woody. This is the long 
and painful part. It's more or less an all or nothing task, so there is 
a LOT of testing involved in making sure this transition is smooth so we 
don't have any downtime.


And of course I understand that all of the above is not Debian's fault. 
But it is the reason I hope Debian supports Potato longer than they did 
slink because I have a ton of work ahead of me. :-)


--
Paul Baker

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

 -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 06:25:48PM -0500, Paul Baker wrote:

 
 Yeah it *should* be painless. Unfortuneately, we are using our own 
 compiled apache, mod*, mysql, and a few other things in /usr/local. As 
 part of the upgrade to woody though I want to start using only Debian 
 versions of software. So there is a bit of extra testing/configuring 
 involved to make that work. We also were using our own version of perl 
 5.6.1 in /usr/local. Want to start using Debian's 5.6.1. This also means 
 that any locally installed CPAN modules will be in the wrong place to 
 work with that perl, so there is further work involved in making sure 
 that all the perl modules we are using get installed from woody, and if 
 not, that we get them from sid, or make them ourselves.

I've found all the CPAN modules I have needed exist in woody, but
sometimes you need to be creative in figuring out the package name to
look for, although 'apt-cache search' helps a lot.  If you can't find a
module you need, the dh-make-perl package automates the process for
packaging a module.

Bob Nielsen



Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 05:07:14PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 I've found all the CPAN modules I have needed exist in woody, but
 sometimes you need to be creative in figuring out the package name to
 look for, although 'apt-cache search' helps a lot.  If you can't find a
 module you need, the dh-make-perl package automates the process for
 packaging a module.

It also seems that Debian and CPAN have learned to live much more
harmoniously than in the past. I used to be perl-porters regular
so my first stop for Perl modules is CPAN to get the latest. This
used to cause me no end of headaches... I had scripts that basically
treated the debian package manager the way a lion tamer with a gun
and chair treats a lion :-)



Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread Paul Baker


On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 06:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You might find the checkinstall package to be of some use here.  It's
worked quite nicely for most things I've tried it for.


That would be more of the quick short cut way of doing it which always 
seems to byte you in the ass later (perhaps when sarge is released). 
Also it expects you to be installing software that has 'make install' 
etc. Which our software doesn't necessarily have either. So as part of 
turning everything into debian packages, they will also get nice shiny 
Makefiles.


--
Paul Baker

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

 -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-08-01 Thread sen_ml
Hi,

From: Paul Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:04:24 -0500

 On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 06:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You might find the checkinstall package to be of some use here.  It's
  worked quite nicely for most things I've tried it for.
 
 That would be more of the quick short cut way of doing it which always 
 seems to byte you in the ass later (perhaps when sarge is released). 
 Also it expects you to be installing software that has 'make install' 
 etc. Which our software doesn't necessarily have either. So as part of 
 turning everything into debian packages, they will also get nice shiny 
 Makefiles.

Ah well.

Good luck in any case.



Re: [SECURITY] [DSA-136-1] Multiple OpenSSL problems

2002-07-30 Thread Stephen Andrew
 These vulnerabilities are also present in Debian 2.2 (potato), but no
 fix is available at this moment.

Is anybody willing to comment on a likely release of Potato packages to
address this?

Thanks,
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