Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 3211-1] iceweasel security update

2015-05-18 Thread Elmar Stellnberger


Am 2015-05-18 um 01:12 schrieb Pedro Worcel:
Keep in mind that if you use a non-tor browser in order to browse 
through Tor you would still be trackable to a degree.


  I would guess that there is no anonymity with tor anyway unless you 
use a virtual machine based solution like f.i. Whonix.
Otherwise one would have to restrict oneself to using torsocks 
wget/lynx/w3m/elinks which I consider to be rather save
browsers/ downloaders. If you do not have lynx/w3m/elinks you could even 
use wget + vim/mcedit/less in certain cases

as me lately when downloading Debian:

torsocks wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/SHA512SUMS

torsocks lynx http://atterer.org/jigdo/#download
or: torsocks wget 
http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2009-08/jigdo/jigdo-bin-0.7.3.tar.bz2

sha256sum jigdo-bin-0.7.3.tar.bz
58b8a6885822e55f365c99131c906f16ceaaf657c566e10f410d026704cad157 
jigdo-bin-0.7.3.tar.bz2
torsocks wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-8.0.0-amd64-DLBD-1.jigdo/.template

torsocks jigdo-bin-0.7.3/jigdo-lite debian-8.0.0-amd64-DLBD-1.jigdo
sha512sum debian-8.0.0-amd64-DLBD-1.iso

  Shell sessions as above should usually not be necessary unless you 
download two times with wrong SHA512 over plain http.
Both times jigdo had reported me a matching checksum; unfortunately the 
SHA512 definitely did not match. Usually you should
be good with the first line applied on a plain http jigdo download (too 
bad that it does not support https + DNSSEC/DANE).


  I never leave a computer with preinstalled tor; I always boot from 
read-only media like a DVD. However some of these media
are not entirely trustworthy: I always stop all unnecessary services 
(netstat -atupn) and often disable network-manager before

going online. macchanger -a eth0 may also be helpful.

  Unnecessary to mention that anonymity gets lost as soon as your host 
operating system gets compromised. It is also well
known that the NSA and possibly other intelligence services attack tor 
users on a regular basis if they are interested in what they

are doing.

Regards,
Elmar



Please see https://panopticlick.eff.org/

2015-05-08 16:18 GMT+12:00 Riley Baird 
bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch 
mailto:bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch:


I'm not from the iceweasel team, but I can assure you that most,
if not
all, of the bugs in Firefox have been accidental.

If you are concerned about privacy (which is a good thing!), then I
recommend that you use the Tor browser.

If you don't trust that because it's based on Firefox, then try to
find
a browser that you do trust and tunnel it through Tor.

If you don't trust Tor, then I don't know, maybe you could use someone
else's computing device :)

On Fri, 08 May 2015 03:47:01 +0200
Weber kwebe...@gmx.de mailto:kwebe...@gmx.de wrote:
 dear iceweasel team


 is it real that the bugs from mozilla and partners will never end?
 Dont you think there is a ns-agent at mozilla ? or even some at
debian ?
 producing bugs and bugs and bugs
 more and more
 instead of less

 yes man it is ! Mozilla is a bought IP tracker and sniffer  .
 IPs going over Google Server,which Mozilla uses for own work.

 north korea has 1000 agents
 and the us about 5000 or more? china 10 000 ?
 Now guess...

 for this reason i will ask you to harden iceweasel
 and icedove with best sec settings and with best data privacy ,
 which i miss until today.
 no script is good, but it can be better.

 its not good to have a very fat browser changing every months
its basic
 features and get fatter and fatter, open for more fatter
 unsecure apps and modules.
 (which are now checked, ok , but not for privacy!
 mozilla does not give any possibility in the app store ,that
developers
 can / Must fill out with privacy and sec options/info.
 why? )

 privacy is not ,when firefox-Icew.  opens any !!! TCP silly app
checker
 or else after i start it.
 and is not ,if google servers are standard in background,
 or any other social shit configs in the background users never
can read
 in front in an easy way,

 and is not , if any other soft is loaded while using it.
 and is not , if the code is getting a bubble to 80 MB
 and no one can find  a sec hole in one day.

 security and privacy is lost in debian ,too
 and  in mozilla for many years now.
 mozilla dont want to change this,because  they are not free
 anymore .
 this must be changed!
 money for programmers is good, but not in this way.

 they are big enough to make 200 mio without google.
 but they will not. they are in a hidden project as snowden told us.

 mozilla adverts in a very unfair way on their website
 with privacy, they lie to users,who 

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 3211-1] iceweasel security update

2015-05-17 Thread Riley Baird
I'm not from the iceweasel team, but I can assure you that most, if not
all, of the bugs in Firefox have been accidental.

If you are concerned about privacy (which is a good thing!), then I
recommend that you use the Tor browser.

If you don't trust that because it's based on Firefox, then try to find
a browser that you do trust and tunnel it through Tor.

If you don't trust Tor, then I don't know, maybe you could use someone
else's computing device :)

On Fri, 08 May 2015 03:47:01 +0200
Weber kwebe...@gmx.de wrote:
 dear iceweasel team
 
 
 is it real that the bugs from mozilla and partners will never end?
 Dont you think there is a ns-agent at mozilla ? or even some at debian ?
 producing bugs and bugs and bugs
 more and more
 instead of less
 
 yes man it is ! Mozilla is a bought IP tracker and sniffer  .
 IPs going over Google Server,which Mozilla uses for own work.
 
 north korea has 1000 agents
 and the us about 5000 or more? china 10 000 ?
 Now guess...
 
 for this reason i will ask you to harden iceweasel
 and icedove with best sec settings and with best data privacy ,
 which i miss until today.
 no script is good, but it can be better.
 
 its not good to have a very fat browser changing every months its basic
 features and get fatter and fatter, open for  more fatter
 unsecure apps and modules.
 (which are now checked, ok , but not for privacy!
 mozilla does not give any possibility in the app store ,that developers
 can / Must fill out with privacy and sec options/info.
 why? )
 
 privacy is not ,when firefox-Icew.  opens any !!! TCP silly app checker
 or else after i start it.
 and is not ,if google servers are standard in background,
 or any other social shit configs in the background users never can read
 in front in an easy way,
 
 and is not , if any other soft is loaded while using it.
 and is not , if the code is getting a bubble to 80 MB
 and no one can find  a sec hole in one day.
 
 security and privacy is lost in debian ,too
 and  in mozilla for many years now.
 mozilla dont want to change this,because  they are not free
 anymore .
 this must be changed!
 money for programmers is good, but not in this way.
 
 they are big enough to make 200 mio without google.
 but they will not. they are in a hidden project as snowden told us.
 
 mozilla adverts in a very unfair way on their website
 with privacy, they lie to users,who dont know how to protect themselfs.
 mozilla does this special setting behind to hide it from normal users!
 thats bad !
 
 and they dont tell the users,what they do with the meta date they
 send to THIRD paries!
 ask them !
 now!
 and send us the answer.!
 come on.
 
 
 bug is a program.! bugs ar bought/payed by third partners/agencies
 !
 fuck this shit.
 
 sorry thats a bad work you do,and i ask you ,why nobody
 works against it or nobody wants to get rid of the trackers and
 perhaps sniffers.!?
 
 this linux is not the vision of the founders of Linux/GNU  for
 NON - sniffing , tracking  tools !
 
 do it better now, please.
 
 reduce code, delete remote chat app video code ,
 reduce any code which is is not stable and we dont need for html sites.
 we need no flash shit, no apps , we need
 a browser which is secure more than 2 days in the year!
 
 
 or:
 you create a second edition browser , which runs lighter and more
 secure / undependend as the original.
 
 
 if you can remember , as i dont know your age,
 firefox was working with 1 MB Code in version 1!
 
 it was good enough for the slowest flash/java/video  site or other
 much badder websites.
 
 
 now we have 80 times more code!!
 and about 20-50 more bugs each year! and very much critical bugs
 which can froze a window or remote exploit a debian or windows.
 
 
 firefox was a very good browser for a starter team ! until they startet
 the bug program ,
 infiltrating all people on earth as IE does ,as experts write in blogs
 sometimes with the help of adobe flash.
 
 if you dont want to do anything, please leave debian
 and let others do this work.
 
 ps.
 we know that google sponsors debian too.
 they sponsor even german newspapers
 to get more profit and rights on the www market !
 
 thats not a way you should copy to GNU Linux.
 
 
 dont believe , if you type ps -ef , that you see all services
 on debian.its  infiltrated in many of the 20 000 apps.
 
 some  directly work with localhost  mozilla engine other web services.
 
 some are called buffer overflow on bug lists.
 
 
 and now tell me how much you get that mozilla and google ist
 on debian nr 1.
 ?
 
 
 regards
 weber
 
 
 Am 01.04.2015 um 18:10 schrieb Salvatore Bonaccorso:
  -
  Debian Security Advisory DSA-3211-1   secur...@debian.org
  http://www.debian.org/security/  Salvatore Bonaccorso
  April 01, 2015 http://www.debian.org/security/faq
  

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 3211-1] iceweasel security update

2015-05-17 Thread Pedro Worcel
Keep in mind that if you use a non-tor browser in order to browse through
Tor you would still be trackable to a degree.

Please see https://panopticlick.eff.org/

2015-05-08 16:18 GMT+12:00 Riley Baird 
bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch:

 I'm not from the iceweasel team, but I can assure you that most, if not
 all, of the bugs in Firefox have been accidental.

 If you are concerned about privacy (which is a good thing!), then I
 recommend that you use the Tor browser.

 If you don't trust that because it's based on Firefox, then try to find
 a browser that you do trust and tunnel it through Tor.

 If you don't trust Tor, then I don't know, maybe you could use someone
 else's computing device :)

 On Fri, 08 May 2015 03:47:01 +0200
 Weber kwebe...@gmx.de wrote:
  dear iceweasel team
 
 
  is it real that the bugs from mozilla and partners will never end?
  Dont you think there is a ns-agent at mozilla ? or even some at debian ?
  producing bugs and bugs and bugs
  more and more
  instead of less
 
  yes man it is ! Mozilla is a bought IP tracker and sniffer  .
  IPs going over Google Server,which Mozilla uses for own work.
 
  north korea has 1000 agents
  and the us about 5000 or more? china 10 000 ?
  Now guess...
 
  for this reason i will ask you to harden iceweasel
  and icedove with best sec settings and with best data privacy ,
  which i miss until today.
  no script is good, but it can be better.
 
  its not good to have a very fat browser changing every months its basic
  features and get fatter and fatter, open for  more fatter
  unsecure apps and modules.
  (which are now checked, ok , but not for privacy!
  mozilla does not give any possibility in the app store ,that developers
  can / Must fill out with privacy and sec options/info.
  why? )
 
  privacy is not ,when firefox-Icew.  opens any !!! TCP silly app checker
  or else after i start it.
  and is not ,if google servers are standard in background,
  or any other social shit configs in the background users never can read
  in front in an easy way,
 
  and is not , if any other soft is loaded while using it.
  and is not , if the code is getting a bubble to 80 MB
  and no one can find  a sec hole in one day.
 
  security and privacy is lost in debian ,too
  and  in mozilla for many years now.
  mozilla dont want to change this,because  they are not free
  anymore .
  this must be changed!
  money for programmers is good, but not in this way.
 
  they are big enough to make 200 mio without google.
  but they will not. they are in a hidden project as snowden told us.
 
  mozilla adverts in a very unfair way on their website
  with privacy, they lie to users,who dont know how to protect themselfs.
  mozilla does this special setting behind to hide it from normal users!
  thats bad !
 
  and they dont tell the users,what they do with the meta date they
  send to THIRD paries!
  ask them !
  now!
  and send us the answer.!
  come on.
 
 
  bug is a program.! bugs ar bought/payed by third partners/agencies
  !
  fuck this shit.
 
  sorry thats a bad work you do,and i ask you ,why nobody
  works against it or nobody wants to get rid of the trackers and
  perhaps sniffers.!?
 
  this linux is not the vision of the founders of Linux/GNU  for
  NON - sniffing , tracking  tools !
 
  do it better now, please.
 
  reduce code, delete remote chat app video code ,
  reduce any code which is is not stable and we dont need for html sites.
  we need no flash shit, no apps , we need
  a browser which is secure more than 2 days in the year!
 
 
  or:
  you create a second edition browser , which runs lighter and more
  secure / undependend as the original.
 
 
  if you can remember , as i dont know your age,
  firefox was working with 1 MB Code in version 1!
 
  it was good enough for the slowest flash/java/video  site or other
  much badder websites.
 
 
  now we have 80 times more code!!
  and about 20-50 more bugs each year! and very much critical bugs
  which can froze a window or remote exploit a debian or windows.
 
 
  firefox was a very good browser for a starter team ! until they startet
  the bug program ,
  infiltrating all people on earth as IE does ,as experts write in
 blogs
  sometimes with the help of adobe flash.
 
  if you dont want to do anything, please leave debian
  and let others do this work.
 
  ps.
  we know that google sponsors debian too.
  they sponsor even german newspapers
  to get more profit and rights on the www market !
 
  thats not a way you should copy to GNU Linux.
 
 
  dont believe , if you type ps -ef , that you see all services
  on debian.its  infiltrated in many of the 20 000 apps.
 
  some  directly work with localhost  mozilla engine other web services.
 
  some are called buffer overflow on bug lists.
 
 
  and now tell me how much you get that mozilla and google ist
  on debian nr 1.
  ?
 
 
  regards
  weber
 
 
  Am 01.04.2015 um 18:10 schrieb Salvatore Bonaccorso:
  
 

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 3211-1] iceweasel security update

2015-05-07 Thread Weber
dear iceweasel team


is it real that the bugs from mozilla and partners will never end?
Dont you think there is a ns-agent at mozilla ? or even some at debian ?
producing bugs and bugs and bugs
more and more
instead of less

yes man it is ! Mozilla is a bought IP tracker and sniffer  .
IPs going over Google Server,which Mozilla uses for own work.

north korea has 1000 agents
and the us about 5000 or more? china 10 000 ?
Now guess...

for this reason i will ask you to harden iceweasel
and icedove with best sec settings and with best data privacy ,
which i miss until today.
no script is good, but it can be better.

its not good to have a very fat browser changing every months its basic
features and get fatter and fatter, open for  more fatter
unsecure apps and modules.
(which are now checked, ok , but not for privacy!
mozilla does not give any possibility in the app store ,that developers
can / Must fill out with privacy and sec options/info.
why? )

privacy is not ,when firefox-Icew.  opens any !!! TCP silly app checker
or else after i start it.
and is not ,if google servers are standard in background,
or any other social shit configs in the background users never can read
in front in an easy way,

and is not , if any other soft is loaded while using it.
and is not , if the code is getting a bubble to 80 MB
and no one can find  a sec hole in one day.

security and privacy is lost in debian ,too
and  in mozilla for many years now.
mozilla dont want to change this,because  they are not free
anymore .
this must be changed!
money for programmers is good, but not in this way.

they are big enough to make 200 mio without google.
but they will not. they are in a hidden project as snowden told us.

mozilla adverts in a very unfair way on their website
with privacy, they lie to users,who dont know how to protect themselfs.
mozilla does this special setting behind to hide it from normal users!
thats bad !

and they dont tell the users,what they do with the meta date they
send to THIRD paries!
ask them !
now!
and send us the answer.!
come on.


bug is a program.! bugs ar bought/payed by third partners/agencies
!
fuck this shit.

sorry thats a bad work you do,and i ask you ,why nobody
works against it or nobody wants to get rid of the trackers and
perhaps sniffers.!?

this linux is not the vision of the founders of Linux/GNU  for
NON - sniffing , tracking  tools !

do it better now, please.

reduce code, delete remote chat app video code ,
reduce any code which is is not stable and we dont need for html sites.
we need no flash shit, no apps , we need
a browser which is secure more than 2 days in the year!


or:
you create a second edition browser , which runs lighter and more
secure / undependend as the original.


if you can remember , as i dont know your age,
firefox was working with 1 MB Code in version 1!

it was good enough for the slowest flash/java/video  site or other
much badder websites.


now we have 80 times more code!!
and about 20-50 more bugs each year! and very much critical bugs
which can froze a window or remote exploit a debian or windows.


firefox was a very good browser for a starter team ! until they startet
the bug program ,
infiltrating all people on earth as IE does ,as experts write in blogs
sometimes with the help of adobe flash.

if you dont want to do anything, please leave debian
and let others do this work.

ps.
we know that google sponsors debian too.
they sponsor even german newspapers
to get more profit and rights on the www market !

thats not a way you should copy to GNU Linux.


dont believe , if you type ps -ef , that you see all services
on debian.its  infiltrated in many of the 20 000 apps.

some  directly work with localhost  mozilla engine other web services.

some are called buffer overflow on bug lists.


and now tell me how much you get that mozilla and google ist
on debian nr 1.
?


regards
weber


Am 01.04.2015 um 18:10 schrieb Salvatore Bonaccorso:
 -
 Debian Security Advisory DSA-3211-1   secur...@debian.org
 http://www.debian.org/security/  Salvatore Bonaccorso
 April 01, 2015 http://www.debian.org/security/faq
 -
 
 Package: iceweasel
 CVE ID : CVE-2015-0801 CVE-2015-0807 CVE-2015-0813 CVE-2015-0815 
  CVE-2015-0816
 
 Multiple security issues have been found in Iceweasel, Debian's version
 of the Mozilla Firefox web browser: Multiple memory safety errors,
 use-after-frees and other implementation errors may lead to the
 execution of arbitrary code, the bypass of security restrictions, denial
 of service or cross-site request forgery.
 
 For the stable distribution (wheezy), these problems have been fixed in
 version 31.6.0esr-1~deb7u1.
 
 For the unstable distribution (sid), these problems have been fixed in
 version