Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-31 Thread Robert van der Meulen

Quoting Jay Kline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I maay be wrong, but dont the SSH clients need that banner to be able to 
 identify what version to use?

Yes; the major/minor combination tells the client which protocol versions
can be used. The latest phrack has some interesting information about that
as well :)

Greets,
Robert

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Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-31 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:58:59PM +0200, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
 
 Quoting Jay Kline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  I maay be wrong, but dont the SSH clients need that banner to be able to 
  identify what version to use?
 
 Yes; the major/minor combination tells the client which protocol versions
 can be used. The latest phrack has some interesting information about that
 as well :)

But you can use the sshd_config and ssh_config to allow only the version
you want.

 



Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-31 Thread Anne Carasik
Here's the link to the Phrack article.

http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=59a=11

It's a really good read, and what they are
suggesting would affect the entire implementation
of SSH, not just OpenSSH or SSH.com.

It can't be fixed from the config file, as
they are not talking about the protocols 1
or 2.

-Anne

This one time, Dale Amon wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:58:59PM +0200, Robert van der Meulen wrote:
  
  Quoting Jay Kline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   I maay be wrong, but dont the SSH clients need that banner to be able to 
   identify what version to use?
  
  Yes; the major/minor combination tells the client which protocol versions
  can be used. The latest phrack has some interesting information about that
  as well :)
 
 But you can use the sshd_config and ssh_config to allow only the version
 you want.
 
  
 
 
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Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-31 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 08:12:00AM -0700, Anne Carasik wrote:
 Here's the link to the Phrack article.
 
 http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=59a=11
 
 It's a really good read, and what they are
 suggesting would affect the entire implementation
 of SSH, not just OpenSSH or SSH.com.
 
 It can't be fixed from the config file, as
 they are not talking about the protocols 1
 or 2.

Perhaps, but one should always change 

Protocol 1,2

to just

Protocol 2

in both ssh_config and sshd_config. If someone
only speaks P1, you really don't want to talk
to them at all.

Of course first make sure you are upgraded on your own
clients and servers/



Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-31 Thread Anne Carasik
Hi there,

This one time, Dale Amon wrote:
 Perhaps, but one should always change 
 
   Protocol 1,2
 
 to just
 
   Protocol 2
 
 in both ssh_config and sshd_config. If someone
 only speaks P1, you really don't want to talk
 to them at all.

There's no debating that. The article doesn't refer
to that--it refers to basic functionality of Secure
Shell.

-Anne
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Telnet information.

2002-07-26 Thread Lars Roland Kristiansen
Hi.

Is there a generic way to block telnet information (runing woody) - if i
telnet to our
mailserver at port 110 then i am told both the version of our pop3 handler
and what local ip it is running on, the same goes for port 22 and 25 
(where ssh and postfix).

Thanks 

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Lars 


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Copenhagen University - 
Institute for Mathematical Sciences
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Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-26 Thread Jeffrey Koetsier
It depends per software package.
In postfix you can set your smtpbanner in /etc/postfix/main.cf:

smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)

For OpenSSH you can change it during compile time ...

Quoting Lars Roland Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi.
 
 Is there a generic way to block telnet information (runing woody) - if i
 telnet to our
 mailserver at port 110 then i am told both the version of our pop3 handler
 and what local ip it is running on, the same goes for port 22 and 25 
 (where ssh and postfix).
 
 Thanks 
 
 ___
 Mvh./Yours sincerely
 
 Lars 
 
 
 Lars Roland Kristiansen
 Stu. Sci. Math/Computer science  
 Copenhagen University -   
 Institute for Mathematical Sciences  
 Url: www.math.ku.dk  
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-26 Thread Jay Kline
On Friday 26 July 2002 08:06 am, Jeffrey Koetsier wrote:
 It depends per software package.

 For OpenSSH you can change it during compile time ...

I maay be wrong, but dont the SSH clients need that banner to be able to 
identify what version to use?


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Re: Telnet information.

2002-07-26 Thread Jeffrey Koetsier
Quoting Jay Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  For OpenSSH you can change it during compile time ...
 
 I maay be wrong, but dont the SSH clients need that banner to be able to 
 identify what version to use?
 
 

SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.1p1_AtHome_SecurID

I assume that it only uses the first phrase (SSH-2.0) for identifying. As this 
works fine for me


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