Re: off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam)

2002-05-12 Thread Jussi Ekholm

Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(I should've taken this off of the list already, but ah well...)

 i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
 between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
 quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
 maybe it'll grow on me.

Well, it's also ackward to reply to posts (or news articles), where the
reply is on top of the quoted text. Makes it harder to read; you don't
read books upside down either, do you? :-) Anyway, I guess it's not that
big deal, but at least I consider it as a Bad Thing. As you say,
top-posting usually leads to very excessive quoting and either way, IMHO
it's much harder to read a mail upside down. 

 thanks for the required_hits tip. next time i try SA, i'll read
 through the docs more thoroughly.

No problem. 

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Re: off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam)

2002-05-12 Thread Jussi Ekholm
Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(I should've taken this off of the list already, but ah well...)

 i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
 between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
 quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
 maybe it'll grow on me.

Well, it's also ackward to reply to posts (or news articles), where the
reply is on top of the quoted text. Makes it harder to read; you don't
read books upside down either, do you? :-) Anyway, I guess it's not that
big deal, but at least I consider it as a Bad Thing. As you say,
top-posting usually leads to very excessive quoting and either way, IMHO
it's much harder to read a mail upside down. 

 thanks for the required_hits tip. next time i try SA, i'll read
 through the docs more thoroughly.

No problem. 

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off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam)

2002-05-10 Thread Christian G. Warden

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:04:40PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
 Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 (Could you please post your reply *below* the quoted text? Top-posting
 is quite irritating, IMHO)
 
  i just want to add a warning about spamassassin.  i had it setup for
  about a week and it was very good at catching spam, but occasionally it
  would drive the cpu load into the 20s.  
 
 Yes, I can say this, as well. My computer swapped twice (so much, that I
 had to hit MSysRq and boot) because of SA started to investigate pretty
 big binary mails. Although, fixing the problem is pretty easy; just
 add 'required_hits = x' in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, where 'x' is
 maybe 5 or something else. This makes SA to stop processing mails
 further than hits you just specified.
 
i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
maybe it'll grow on me.
thanks for the required_hits tip.  next time i try SA, i'll read through
the docs more thoroughly.

xn


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Spamassassin (was Re: off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam))

2002-05-10 Thread Stelios Bounanos

  On Fri, 10 May 2002 08:53:29 -0700, Christian G Warden
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] was runoured to have said:

  On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:04:40PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
  Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  (Could you please post your reply *below* the quoted text? Top-posting
  is quite irritating, IMHO)
  
   i just want to add a warning about spamassassin.  i had it setup for
   about a week and it was very good at catching spam, but occasionally it
   would drive the cpu load into the 20s.  
  
  Yes, I can say this, as well. My computer swapped twice (so much, that I
  had to hit MSysRq and boot) because of SA started to investigate pretty
  big binary mails. Although, fixing the problem is pretty easy; just
  add 'required_hits = x' in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, where 'x' is
  maybe 5 or something else. This makes SA to stop processing mails
  further than hits you just specified.
 
  i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
  between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
  quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
  maybe it'll grow on me.
  thanks for the required_hits tip.  next time i try SA, i'll read through
  the docs more thoroughly.

You can also run SA in a client-server mode. Basically your procmail
recipe uses spamc to connect to a spamd daemon that does the checking.
There's a discussion in the SA docs on why this more efficient; it
solved the high system load problem for me...

  xn

Rgds,
/-sb.


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off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam)

2002-05-10 Thread Christian G. Warden
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:04:40PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
 Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 (Could you please post your reply *below* the quoted text? Top-posting
 is quite irritating, IMHO)
 
  i just want to add a warning about spamassassin.  i had it setup for
  about a week and it was very good at catching spam, but occasionally it
  would drive the cpu load into the 20s.  
 
 Yes, I can say this, as well. My computer swapped twice (so much, that I
 had to hit MSysRq and boot) because of SA started to investigate pretty
 big binary mails. Although, fixing the problem is pretty easy; just
 add 'required_hits = x' in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, where 'x' is
 maybe 5 or something else. This makes SA to stop processing mails
 further than hits you just specified.
 
i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
maybe it'll grow on me.
thanks for the required_hits tip.  next time i try SA, i'll read through
the docs more thoroughly.

xn


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Spamassassin (was Re: off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam))

2002-05-10 Thread Stelios Bounanos
  On Fri, 10 May 2002 08:53:29 -0700, Christian G Warden
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] was runoured to have said:

  On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:04:40PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
  Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  (Could you please post your reply *below* the quoted text? Top-posting
  is quite irritating, IMHO)
  
   i just want to add a warning about spamassassin.  i had it setup for
   about a week and it was very good at catching spam, but occasionally it
   would drive the cpu load into the 20s.  
  
  Yes, I can say this, as well. My computer swapped twice (so much, that I
  had to hit MSysRq and boot) because of SA started to investigate pretty
  big binary mails. Although, fixing the problem is pretty easy; just
  add 'required_hits = x' in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, where 'x' is
  maybe 5 or something else. This makes SA to stop processing mails
  further than hits you just specified.
 
  i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
  between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
  quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
  maybe it'll grow on me.
  thanks for the required_hits tip.  next time i try SA, i'll read through
  the docs more thoroughly.

You can also run SA in a client-server mode. Basically your procmail
recipe uses spamc to connect to a spamd daemon that does the checking.
There's a discussion in the SA docs on why this more efficient; it
solved the high system load problem for me...

  xn

Rgds,
/-sb.


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Tofu (was: Spamassassin (was Re: off topic: quoting (was Re: html spam)))

2002-05-10 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin,

* Stelios Bounanos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-05-10 22:29]:
  On Fri, 10 May 2002 08:53:29 -0700, Christian G Warden
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] was runoured to have said:

  On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:04:40PM +0300, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
  Christian G. Warden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  (Could you please post your reply *below* the quoted text? Top-posting
  is quite irritating, IMHO)
  
   i just want to add a warning about spamassassin.  i had it setup for
   about a week and it was very good at catching spam, but occasionally it
   would drive the cpu load into the 20s.  
  
  Yes, I can say this, as well. My computer swapped twice (so much, that I
  had to hit MSysRq and boot) because of SA started to investigate pretty
  big binary mails. Although, fixing the problem is pretty easy; just
  add 'required_hits = x' in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs, where 'x' is
  maybe 5 or something else. This makes SA to stop processing mails
  further than hits you just specified.
 
  i tend to prefer top-posting except when responding point by point
  between paragraphs.  admittedly, it's lazy and encourages excessive
  quoting, but this just feels awkward.  i'll try it out for a few days.
  maybe it'll grow on me.
  thanks for the required_hits tip.  next time i try SA, i'll read through
  the docs more thoroughly.

You can also run SA in a client-server mode. Basically your procmail
recipe uses spamc to connect to a spamd daemon that does the checking.
There's a discussion in the SA docs on why this more efficient; it
solved the high system load problem for me...

I agree. I even made up a small page so that I just can refer to it
instead of explaining the problem every time.

Thorsten
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