Re: Still probelms to boot from SD

1999-12-09 Thread LannerHawk
In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 /dev/sda1 0  1100396000   83  Linux native
  /dev/sda2  u   1100  1151 18360   82  Linux swap
  /dev/sda3 0  11514143600  Empt


So why is the swap partition marked as read only?  This is what the u flag 
designates, I believe.  Swap seems to work if it is set as read only or 
without the flag.  I have the swap flagless on a SPARC10.  Just for cleanness 
and that Debian uses it anyway and ignores the read only flag?

Just curious





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Phoenix Arizona



Re: browsers under X?

1999-12-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Jokker wrote:

 I was just wondering what browsers for X existed for sparclinux?

I am using netscape, from ftp.netscape.org.  The others (amaya/chimera...)
were either not feature rich enough or very unstable 6 months ago.


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Re: Still probelms to boot from SD

1999-12-09 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  /dev/sda1 0  1100396000   83  Linux native
   /dev/sda2  u   1100  1151 18360   82  Linux swap
   /dev/sda3 0  11514143600  Empt

The u is unmountable.  No idea why, but it exists, as a flag, on SunOS
as well.

To the original poster, are you sure that you are formatting the disk on a
Sparc Linux box?

Regards,


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Re: Still probelms to boot from SD

1999-12-09 Thread ferret


On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  /dev/sda1 0  1100396000   83  Linux native
   /dev/sda2  u   1100  1151 18360   82  Linux swap
   /dev/sda3 0  11514143600  Empt
 
 
 So why is the swap partition marked as read only?  This is what the u flag 
 designates, I believe.  Swap seems to work if it is set as read only or 
 without the flag.  I have the swap flagless on a SPARC10.  Just for cleanness 
 and that Debian uses it anyway and ignores the read only flag?
 
 Just curious

I really don't know. That's how the Slink installer's fdisk set it up when
I did the partitioning. All I can say is that it works.

-- Ferret no baka (6/7th-clued Sparc newbie)



Re: Still probelms to boot from SD

1999-12-09 Thread ferret


On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In a message dated 12/7/99 11:40:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   /dev/sda1 0  1100396000   83  Linux native
/dev/sda2  u   1100  1151 18360   82  Linux swap
/dev/sda3 0  11514143600  Empt
 
 The u is unmountable.  No idea why, but it exists, as a flag, on SunOS
 as well.
 
 To the original poster, are you sure that you are formatting the disk on a
 Sparc Linux box?

Yep. That Sparc was purchased second-hand with an unbootable Solaris/SunOS
system on it. After mounting the original partition and poking around I
removed all the partitions except sda3 and repartitioned it with fdisk
from the slink floppy install set.

-- Ferret no baka



hardware question: power supply rating for sparc 5

1999-12-09 Thread John Davis
Hello

I thought someone here might know this question.  What is the standard
power supply rating for a sparc 5.  I recently purchased a sparc 5 for
use with Debian and I was surprised that it only had a 150W power
supply.  Is that normal?  
Most PC's come with a 200W or 250W power supply.

John


Re: hardware question: power supply rating for sparc 5

1999-12-09 Thread Chris Trainor
150W is correct.  The reason why most PC's have bigger supplies is because
you can put a lot more stuff in them generally.  Also, many of the 200W PC
power supplies i've run into wont' run at 200W for too long. :)  

--Chris

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, John Davis wrote:

 Hello
 
 I thought someone here might know this question.  What is the standard
 power supply rating for a sparc 5.  I recently purchased a sparc 5 for
 use with Debian and I was surprised that it only had a 150W power
 supply.  Is that normal?  
 Most PC's come with a 200W or 250W power supply.
 
 John
 
 
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Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-09 Thread Detlev Zundel
Hi,

I ran this against `debian-user' but to no avail.  So I'll try again
at this more specific place.  Thanks for any help...

I just got hold of an old Sparc IPC that nobody used anymore and tried
to install Debian on it after swapping the defective first hard disk
with an old scsi disk lying around (with an old i386 Debian on it..)

The installation worked quite well (it /is/ fun seeing tux for the
first time on a Sun..) until silo run.  It complains that I have to
push down /boot/second.b into an area below the magic 1GB boundary.
But how can I do this when I only have a 512MB disk :) ??

I even checked with debugfs and (after some shifting around) managed
to get /boot/second.b to be in the first 1000 blocks.  I don't think I
can move it any farther to the beginning.  So it seems to be something
more obvious.

I am also a bit confused about the whole disk partition memtioned in
the (short) silo docs.  As my disk was used on i386 Debian before I
left the partitioning alone /dev/sda1 - /, /dev/sda2 - swap (both
primary partitions).  Did I miss something here?

When I now boot with the newly created boot floppy, I tried entering
`sd(0)/vmlinuz' at the prompt but OpenBoot complained about sd0 not
responding.  I thought I should be able to boot a kernel on sda1 at
the silo prompt.  Is this not so?

I also tried booting with the 2.2.1 kernel but then neither tux
displayed correctly nor was the text mode initialized correctly.  Was
this to be expected??  Can I expect better performance with a newer
kernel?  My disk seems to crawl to a standstill when writing.  I
think I read something about this somewhere...

Thanks for the help and please CC me as I am not subscribed to
debian-sparc. 

Cheers
  Detlev

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optimum in the space of programming languages.
   -- John McCarthy (1980)


Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-09 Thread Kurt Mosiejczuk
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Detlev Zundel wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I ran this against `debian-user' but to no avail.  So I'll try again
 at this more specific place.  Thanks for any help...
 
 I just got hold of an old Sparc IPC that nobody used anymore and tried
 to install Debian on it after swapping the defective first hard disk
 with an old scsi disk lying around (with an old i386 Debian on it..)
 

 
 I am also a bit confused about the whole disk partition memtioned in
 the (short) silo docs.  As my disk was used on i386 Debian before I
 left the partitioning alone /dev/sda1 - /, /dev/sda2 - swap (both
 primary partitions).  Did I miss something here?
 
 When I now boot with the newly created boot floppy, I tried entering
 `sd(0)/vmlinuz' at the prompt but OpenBoot complained about sd0 not
 responding.  I thought I should be able to boot a kernel on sda1 at
 the silo prompt.  Is this not so?
 

You'll need to put a new disk label on the drive.  The OpenBoot PROM
expects a Sun disk label.  Otherwise you can't boot from it.  The kernel
will still understand the i386 disk label fine, but I assume you'd like
to be able to boot it.  This is probably what is causing your problems
with SILO, cause I bet SILO assumes a sun disk label and gets rather confused.

I believe it's option s to put a new sun disk label in fdisk.  Try that.

--Kurt


Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-09 Thread Detlev Zundel
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote:

 You'll need to put a new disk label on the drive.  The OpenBoot PROM
 expects a Sun disk label.  Otherwise you can't boot from it.  The kernel
 will still understand the i386 disk label fine, but I assume you'd like
 to be able to boot it.  This is probably what is causing your problems
 with SILO, cause I bet SILO assumes a sun disk label and gets rather confused.
 
 I believe it's option s to put a new sun disk label in fdisk.  Try that.

Hmm, I just checked with the fdisk that's on the machine right now.
There's `b' for a Bsd label, `o' for a DOS table and `g' for an IRIX
partition but nothing like a Sun disk label.  I did look for this the
first time around but as I couldn't find it then I just went ahead.

What exactly do I need to put a Sun disk label on my disk?  Solaris?? I
hope not :)

Thanks
  Detlev

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Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-09 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
 What exactly do I need to put a Sun disk label on my disk?  Solaris?? I
 hope not :)

You can do it with fdisk. It's in the manual:

http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/sparc/ch-init-config.en.html#s-dbootstrap-partition

(Does dbootstrap in potato make this any more foolproof?)

Edmund


Sparc boots now from SD! Many thanks

1999-12-09 Thread Manfred Plagmann




I finally succeeded with my boot problem and 
Debian is now booting from my SD. I never saw the 's' option in fdisk (it 
was hidden) and the list of known partition types which comes up using the 'l' 
command was not listing anything with 'Sun' in it. I low-level formatted the 
disk using my Mac and tried a new installation of Debian. This time fdisk came 
up with a whole bunch of possible 'Sun' partitions right at the startup and the 
's' parameter was now not hidden anymore. 

Many thanks for all your help. 

Manfred



RE: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)

1999-12-09 Thread James Ireson
it didn't show on mine either when i installed last month or so.. i only
found out about it after reading the archives on this list

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Mosiejczuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 December 1999 22:13
 To: Detlev Zundel
 Cc: Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS; debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Problems with SILO (Sparc slink)


 On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Detlev Zundel wrote:

  It is indeed `s' as I managed to write a Sun label by now - but it does
  still not occurr in the help.

 The thing is, I remember it being there (on the help).  Cause I
 wouldn't have
 known which one to use otherwise...  So, I'd like to find out why
 it doesn't
 show on yours.

 --Kurt


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