Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke

On 08/08/2018 11:27 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 08/08/2018 05:23 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:


pssst ... there is nothing in the silo.conf of netinst.iso for sun4v and that 
had me wondering.


Why though? sun4v is fully backwards-compatible ...


Well hey .. everything else under the sun is in there .. except sun4v.

pun intended.


regardless .. how the heck to netboot this thing ?

There have been multiple discussions on this topic on this mailing list.

Basically, you need the d-i images from the tarball here:


http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/pool-sparc64/main/d/debian-installer/


Then set up a TFTP server and let the machine boot the kernel, see:


https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/sparc/ch05s01.html.en




great .. a dance on a Tuesday under a full moon and my mothers birthday.
*sigh*   ;-)


I'll make up a USB thumbdrive and visit the datacenter.

Dennis



Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Wednesday 2018-08-08 16:55, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

>On 08/08/2018 04:44 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:
>> Well yes .. however it is sitting inside a rack in a remote datacenter
>> and that makes life a real drag.  Sort of why I like network based
>> install processes.
>> 
>> Regardless, looking at /boot/silo.conf in the netinst I don't see any
>> support for sun4v platforms and so this may be just a waste of effort.
>
>Umm, what?
>
>root@osaka:~# uname -a
>Linux osaka 4.17.0-1-sparc64-smp #1 SMP Debian 4.17.8-1 (2018-07-20) sparc64 
>GNU/Linux
>root@osaka:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sun
>type: sun4v
>MMU Type: Hypervisor (sun4v)
>root@osaka:~#
>
>What makes you think Debian doesn't run on a T4 when we've been running
>it on a T5 in the past and folk at Oracle even running on an M8?!?!

maybe the logic that T4 compares as "less" to both T5 and M8.

But psst, don't tell him it also works on T1 and T2. ;-)



Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 08/08/2018 05:23 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> 
> pssst ... there is nothing in the silo.conf of netinst.iso for sun4v and that 
> had me wondering.

Why though? sun4v is fully backwards-compatible, so any sun4u software
will also work on sun4v.

> regardless .. how the heck to netboot this thing ?
There have been multiple discussions on this topic on this mailing list.

Basically, you need the d-i images from the tarball here:

> http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/pool-sparc64/main/d/debian-installer/

Then set up a TFTP server and let the machine boot the kernel, see:

> https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/sparc/ch05s01.html.en

Adrian

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Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke

On 08/08/2018 11:03 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Wednesday 2018-08-08 16:55, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:


On 08/08/2018 04:44 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:

Well yes .. however it is sitting inside a rack in a remote datacenter
and that makes life a real drag.  Sort of why I like network based
install processes.

Regardless, looking at /boot/silo.conf in the netinst I don't see any
support for sun4v platforms and so this may be just a waste of effort.


Umm, what?

root@osaka:~# uname -a
Linux osaka 4.17.0-1-sparc64-smp #1 SMP Debian 4.17.8-1 (2018-07-20) sparc64 
GNU/Linux
root@osaka:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sun
type: sun4v
MMU Type: Hypervisor (sun4v)
root@osaka:~#

What makes you think Debian doesn't run on a T4 when we've been running
it on a T5 in the past and folk at Oracle even running on an M8?!?!


maybe the logic that T4 compares as "less" to both T5 and M8.

But psst, don't tell him it also works on T1 and T2. ;-)



pssst ... there is nothing in the silo.conf of netinst.iso for sun4v and 
that had me wondering.


regardless .. how the heck to netboot this thing ?

dc



Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 08/08/2018 04:44 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> Well yes .. however it is sitting inside a rack in a remote datacenter
> and that makes life a real drag.  Sort of why I like network based
> install processes.
> 
> Regardless, looking at /boot/silo.conf in the netinst I don't see any
> support for sun4v platforms and so this may be just a waste of effort.

Umm, what?

root@osaka:~# uname -a
Linux osaka 4.17.0-1-sparc64-smp #1 SMP Debian 4.17.8-1 (2018-07-20) sparc64 
GNU/Linux
root@osaka:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sun
type: sun4v
MMU Type: Hypervisor (sun4v)
root@osaka:~#

What makes you think Debian doesn't run on a T4 when we've been running
it on a T5 in the past and folk at Oracle even running on an M8?!?!

Adrian

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Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread Dennis Clarke

On 08/08/2018 10:14 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 08/08/2018 04:08 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:

However it is not really clear how to do that over tftp and nfs. I have
a bootp server running and can deliver some bootable image to the
machine but the whole sparc64-NETINST iso probably won't fly here.

Doesn't the T4 have USB ports which you could use to install the
operating system from?



Well yes .. however it is sitting inside a rack in a remote datacenter
and that makes life a real drag.  Sort of why I like network based
install processes.

Regardless, looking at /boot/silo.conf in the netinst I don't see any
support for sun4v platforms and so this may be just a waste of effort.

Moving on.


Dennis



Re: NETRA Sparc T4-1 to test with

2018-08-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 08/08/2018 04:08 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> However it is not really clear how to do that over tftp and nfs. I have
> a bootp server running and can deliver some bootable image to the
> machine but the whole sparc64-NETINST iso probably won't fly here.
Doesn't the T4 have USB ports which you could use to install the
operating system from?

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