Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2012-08-16 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:15:39 +0800, ernest wrote:

> This may not be the correct place for me to post this question but i
> couldn't find anywhere that i can. Please direct me to the correct forum
> if it is the wrong place.

This is a good place for me :-)

> I have two partitions created on my Laptop, one for Win XP and the other
> for Debian Squeeze.
> 
> I read about this article and tried the suggestions. Booted from Win XP
> (as Host)and created a .VMDK file to boot Debian VM guest from the
> "REAL" Debian partition. It works and able to logon into the linux
> system.

Note that VirtualBox does not recommend using this kind of "raw¹" images 
as this is an expert feature and can badly crash, you've been warned. 

> However, I encountered problem with networking. I'm unable to ping
> anyone else except local host.  When check on IFCONFIG, there is no eth0
> configured.

>From the guest, run:

dmesg | grep -i eth
lspci | grep -i ether

> To confirm if my ethernet card is ok, i booted up Linux from Linux
> partition.   It came up perfectly ok and I can ping my gateway and i can
> see eth0 in IFCONIG.
> 
> Did i missed anything or the networking would not work in this kind of
> setup?

The first thing to get is having the network card detected in the guest, 
while kernel sees no adapter, no networking facility will be available.

Also, as an aside note, remember that to have the guest working as 
another computer in the network, you have to configure the network card 
device from the VM setup in bridge² mode, this way the guest will act 
independently because a NATed device will only be able to see itself and 
reach the gateway (for web browsing).

¹https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
² https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html

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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2012-08-16 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:15:39AM +0100, ernest wrote:
> Hi
> 
> This may not be the correct place for me to post this question but i 
> couldn't find anywhere that i can. Please direct me to the correct forum 
> if it is the wrong place.

Not sure this is the correct place, but it _is_ debian related, so I'll bite...

> I have two partitions created on my Laptop, one for Win XP and the other 
> for Debian Squeeze.
> 
> I read about this article and tried the suggestions. Booted from Win XP 
> (as Host)and created a .VMDK file to boot Debian VM guest from the 
> "REAL" Debian partition. It works and able to logon into the linux system.

Ouwh... Running Debian inside a virtual machine on an XP box??  Sounds
like a bad idea, for both performance and stability. You'll probably
find that the preference around here is the other way around (if you
really insist on running XP at all!). But then again, this is a debian
mailing list...

> However, I encountered problem with networking. I'm unable to ping 
> anyone else except local host.  When check on IFCONFIG, there is no eth0 
> configured.

I assume that you have networking set up in virtualbox.

Is there _any_ eth* device?  Perhaps you have an eth1?  Debian will
remember the MAC address of the network cards in
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (so that eth0/eth1/eth* dont
swap around depending on the order the kernel detects them).  Since
you probably have a different MAC address inside virtualbox, the "new"
one will be eth1 (or eth2 if you already had an eth1 etc).  If you
remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, it will be
re-created on the next boot.

> To confirm if my ethernet card is ok, i booted up Linux from Linux 
> partition.   It came up perfectly ok and I can ping my gateway and i can 
> see eth0 in IFCONIG.

I assume that the network card works OK in Win XP ? if not, then all
bets are off: If the underlying machine does not have networking, the
virtual machines will be "isolated" too...

Hope this helps

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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2012-08-16 Thread ernest

Hi

This may not be the correct place for me to post this question but i 
couldn't find anywhere that i can. Please direct me to the correct forum 
if it is the wrong place.


I have two partitions created on my Laptop, one for Win XP and the other 
for Debian Squeeze.


I read about this article and tried the suggestions. Booted from Win XP 
(as Host)and created a .VMDK file to boot Debian VM guest from the 
"REAL" Debian partition. It works and able to logon into the linux system.


However, I encountered problem with networking. I'm unable to ping 
anyone else except local host.  When check on IFCONFIG, there is no eth0 
configured.


To confirm if my ethernet card is ok, i booted up Linux from Linux 
partition.   It came up perfectly ok and I can ping my gateway and i can 
see eth0 in IFCONIG.


Did i missed anything or the networking would not work in this kind of 
setup?


Appreciate your input & advise.


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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Lamb

Wackojacko wrote:

Is this a typo in the e-mail or the command?


Was me fat fingering it.  Sure enough, put the h in and it worked. 
Thanks much for a second application of the clue-by-four.  ;)



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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-19 Thread Wackojacko

Steve Lamb wrote:


Hrm, not sure, I'm getting the dreaded VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND error.  
Will have to twiddle with this tomorrow night.


C:\Program Files\Sun\xVM VirtualBox>VBoxManage.exe internalcommands 
createrawvmd

k -filename test.vmdk -rawdisk \\.\PysicalDrive0

  ^
Is this a typo in the e-mail or the command?


VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 1.6.2
(C) 2005-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc.
All rights reserved.

Error opening the raw disk: VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND



I did get this initially but the latest versions seem to work OK.

HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Lamb

Wackojacko wrote:
The command is the same except the device section is as follows (from 
user manual section 9.9)



*On a Windows host, instead of the above device specification, use e.g.
\\.\PhysicalDrive0.*


Cripes, good catch.  I can see how I missed it being one line and not in 
the same format as all the other command lines.  *sigh*  Thanks for the 
clue-by-four.  ;)



May need full path to VBoxManage to work.


Hrm, not sure, I'm getting the dreaded VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND error.  Will 
have to twiddle with this tomorrow night.


C:\Program Files\Sun\xVM VirtualBox>VBoxManage.exe internalcommands createrawvmd
k -filename test.vmdk -rawdisk \\.\PysicalDrive0
VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 1.6.2
(C) 2005-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc.
All rights reserved.

Error opening the raw disk: VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND

Tried the fakembr package but as I have grub in the MBR of the physical 
disk it wouldn't work for me.  I eventually used a grub floppy image 
mounted at boot time pointing to the menu.lst on the linux partition 
which works!


Ha, cute!  Will have to remember that.  Thanks again.


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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-16 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:27:53PM -0400, Steve C. Lamb wrote:

> Nope.  What I want to do is have my Windows host boot a Linux guest from a
> *real* hard drive partition, not an image.  The VirtualBox help gives a method
> to do the reverse, IE, a Linux host booting a real Windows partition.
> However, the command to do so references the partition from the /dev tree;
> something that obviously will not work for a Windows host.  I'm looking for
> the Windows version of that command.

Risky.  The Linux kernel won't be seeing the real hardware, because
VirtualBox virtualizes everything.
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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-16 Thread Wackojacko

Steve C. Lamb wrote:

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:08:30PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:

Hi.  I'm not quite sure what you want to do, but it sounds to me like you
want a windows host to boot a linux guest.


Correct.


So, you need to download the correct windows binary, install it and then
create the linux guest in the windows host. 


This is where I am now.  A Windows host is booting a Linux guest from a
hard drive image.


Did that answer your question?


Nope.  What I want to do is have my Windows host boot a Linux guest from a
*real* hard drive partition, not an image.  The VirtualBox help gives a method
to do the reverse, IE, a Linux host booting a real Windows partition.
However, the command to do so references the partition from the /dev tree;
something that obviously will not work for a Windows host.  I'm looking for
the Windows version of that command.



The command is the same except the device section is as follows (from 
user manual section 9.9)


*On a Windows host, instead of the above device specification, use e.g.
\\.\PhysicalDrive0.*

May need full path to VBoxManage to work.

The only problem I had was getting an mbr to boot the linux partition. 
Tried the fakembr package but as I have grub in the MBR of the physical 
disk it wouldn't work for me.  I eventually used a grub floppy image 
mounted at boot time pointing to the menu.lst on the linux partition 
which works!


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-16 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:08:30PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Hi.  I'm not quite sure what you want to do, but it sounds to me like you
> want a windows host to boot a linux guest.

Correct.

> So, you need to download the correct windows binary, install it and then
> create the linux guest in the windows host. 

This is where I am now.  A Windows host is booting a Linux guest from a
hard drive image.

> Did that answer your question?

Nope.  What I want to do is have my Windows host boot a Linux guest from a
*real* hard drive partition, not an image.  The VirtualBox help gives a method
to do the reverse, IE, a Linux host booting a real Windows partition.
However, the command to do so references the partition from the /dev tree;
something that obviously will not work for a Windows host.  I'm looking for
the Windows version of that command.

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Re: VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-16 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 08:51 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hello,
>  Anyone know how to get VirtualBox to make a definition to book a Linux
> host from a partition?  The instructions I have found thus far reference
> the partition as /dev/sda...blah.blah.blah  That's great for when I
> want to boot Windows from my Linux partition (might try that tonight) but I
> want to do the opposite.  :(

Hi.  I'm not quite sure what you want to do, but it sounds to me like you want 
a windows host to boot a linux guest.  So, you need to download the correct 
windows binary, install it and then create the linux guest in the windows 
host.  Did that answer your question?

Mark


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VirtualBox WinXP host, Linux Partition guest?

2008-07-15 Thread Steve Lamb

Hello,
Anyone know how to get VirtualBox to make a definition to book a Linux 
host from a partition?  The instructions I have found thus far reference the 
partition as /dev/sda...blah.blah.blah  That's great for when I want to 
boot Windows from my Linux partition (might try that tonight) but I want to do 
the opposite.  :(



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