Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
On 6/28/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 04:50:27AM -0400, P Kapat wrote: > > >learn to use 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-cache show'. > > I am not sure what is intended here, but I did search around (mostly > on packages.debian.org) and came up with the above mentioned kernels. > The finer distinctions between them was not available from the package > descriptions. And that is where the mailing list comes to help. > i was merely pointing out these tools inc ase you didn't know about them. apt-cache search allows you to search packages for your keyword in the name or description. apt-cache show will show you the description of a particular package. It seemed that most of your question could have been answered by this. merely trying to be helpful. I didn't want to be rude here, my apologies if it sounded that way. I certainly appreciate the help, I'll keep apt-cache search/show handy now. Thanks a ton. -- Regards PK -- http://counter.li.org #402424 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 04:50:27AM -0400, P Kapat wrote: > > >learn to use 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-cache show'. > > I am not sure what is intended here, but I did search around (mostly > on packages.debian.org) and came up with the above mentioned kernels. > The finer distinctions between them was not available from the package > descriptions. And that is where the mailing list comes to help. > i was merely pointing out these tools inc ase you didn't know about them. apt-cache search allows you to search packages for your keyword in the name or description. apt-cache show will show you the description of a particular package. It seemed that most of your question could have been answered by this. merely trying to be helpful. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
Thanks to Andrew, Wayne and Wackojacko for the responses. On 6/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:59:10PM -0400, P Kapat wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a > MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo. > > Problem: Kernel does not recognise all the RAM, it sees only 1GB. > > $ uname -a > Linux *** 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux > you definitely need another kernel. I finally did change. [...snip...] > 2. When I do get time and feel comfortable to move to a native 64bit > machine, which kernel should I use? The options I am looking at are: > a) linux-image-2.6-amd64 (under amd64 or i386 arch?) > b) linux-image-2.6-k7 (under amd64 or i386 arch?) I think you can install this kernel and see your memory. You have an AMD, so this should work. though I've not tried it. If it doesn't work, you'll know first boot... ;) It is a 32bit kernel and will work with the stuff you already have installed. YES it works:-) I can finally see upto 2.97 GB. This seems to support upto 4GB of memory. Though there was this quirk with nvidia's installer : http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg00172.html But thanks to Julian, (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg03239.html) I got almost everything sorted out. I had to remove some symlinks and header files manually, nvidia-installer didnot remove them. > I am not sure what the "-vserver-" images are and does my processor > come under the k7 class? if you don't know then you probably don't need it. I looked around a little more and yes, I don't need the virtualization. learn to use 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-cache show'. I am not sure what is intended here, but I did search around (mostly on packages.debian.org) and came up with the above mentioned kernels. The finer distinctions between them was not available from the package descriptions. And that is where the mailing list comes to help. Once again, thanks Andrew. -- Regards PK -- http://counter.li.org #402424 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
Wackojacko([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Wayne Topa wrote: > >P Kapat([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > >>Hi, > >> > >>I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a > >>MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo. > >> > > > >When I asked the amd-64 list I was told that CPU is a K8, not a K7. > > > >WT > > > That's correct but it uses a lot of the same features as the k7 with a > few extra so the k7 is the best fit on a 32 bit install. There was a > -k8 kernel on i386 ( and it was reinstated for a while so may still be > available ) but, you can run into problems with compiling modules, for > example, as the compiler expects a 64-bit os and bombs out. Ahh. That I didn't know! Thanks. I should have my amd64 system soon and will need that nugget. WT -- Never say "OOPS!" always say "Ah, Interesting!" ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
Wayne Topa wrote: P Kapat([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo. When I asked the amd-64 list I was told that CPU is a K8, not a K7. WT That's correct but it uses a lot of the same features as the k7 with a few extra so the k7 is the best fit on a 32 bit install. There was a -k8 kernel on i386 ( and it was reinstated for a while so may still be available ) but, you can run into problems with compiling modules, for example, as the compiler expects a 64-bit os and bombs out. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
P Kapat([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hi, > > I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a > MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo. > When I asked the amd-64 list I was told that CPU is a K8, not a K7. WT -- "But what we need to know is, do people want nasally-insertable computers?" ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:59:10PM -0400, P Kapat wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a > MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo. > > Problem: Kernel does not recognise all the RAM, it sees only 1GB. > > $ uname -a > Linux *** 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux > you definitely need another kernel. > > I have been using linux-image-2.6-486 (which is 32bit) kernel to avoid > the restrictions (unavailability of flash, media codecs etc) of 64 bit > platform. Here are my two questions: > > 1. Is it possible to overcome the memory restriction under the current > setup? At this moment I don't have time to install a 64-bit version > kernel and go over the whole re-installation procedure. you could rebuild the 486 kernel with the highmem options set... but that'll take a bit. > > 2. When I do get time and feel comfortable to move to a native 64bit > machine, which kernel should I use? The options I am looking at are: > a) linux-image-2.6-amd64 (under amd64 or i386 arch?) > b) linux-image-2.6-k7 (under amd64 or i386 arch?) I think you can install this kernel and see your memory. You have an AMD, so this should work. though I've not tried it. If it doesn't work, you'll know first boot... ;) It is a 32bit kernel and will work with the stuff you already have installed. > > I am not sure what the "-vserver-" images are and does my processor > come under the k7 class? > if you don't know then you probably don't need it. learn to use 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-cache show'. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue
Hi, I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo. Problem: Kernel does not recognise all the RAM, it sees only 1GB. $ uname -a Linux *** 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux I had two 512MB modules, recently I added two 1 GB models hoping to see around 3GB of RAM. But the kernel reads only 1 GB. A little bit of googling helped me to understand that the kernel is not compiled for using higher memories. $ grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.18-4-486 CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set I have been using linux-image-2.6-486 (which is 32bit) kernel to avoid the restrictions (unavailability of flash, media codecs etc) of 64 bit platform. Here are my two questions: 1. Is it possible to overcome the memory restriction under the current setup? At this moment I don't have time to install a 64-bit version kernel and go over the whole re-installation procedure. 2. When I do get time and feel comfortable to move to a native 64bit machine, which kernel should I use? The options I am looking at are: a) linux-image-2.6-amd64 (under amd64 or i386 arch?) b) linux-image-2.6-k7 (under amd64 or i386 arch?) c) linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 (amd64 arch only) d) linux-image-2.6-vserver-k7 (i386 arch only) I am not sure what the "-vserver-" images are and does my processor come under the k7 class? Thanks in advance for the advice. Its much appreciated. -- Regards PK -- http://counter.li.org #402424 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
