Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:12:36 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 

 Well, you have just to check the devotee code is doing what it is
 supposed to do, and that this is the actual code running on the
 actual ballots, you don't really need to look at the ballots. Since
 the devotee code is supposed to be deterministic, and always produce
 the same result for a determined set of votes independently of vote
 order and timing. If not we would have a serious problem, which we
 supposedly solved duing the vote method discussion back then.

That is not true. If a person votes 5 times, and all of them
 differently, the way the vote is counted is not independent of vote
 order.

manoj
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Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:15:22 +, Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 

 Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think that Wesley may be thinking more along the lines of a
 simple replay attack -- if you *do* change your mind, your earlier
 (publically posted) ballot can be fed back into the system again,
 to reset your preferences to those you originally chose.

 I /believe/ that there's a replay cache to prevent a naive replay
 attack

Umm, it does have a replay cache. How does a sophisticated
 replay attack differ from a naive one?

 - I'm not sure if it insists that the order of signing is consistent
 with the order of receipt.

Umm, I am not sure I understand what this means.

manoj
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RE: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2 005

2005-04-04 Thread Gilbert, Joseph


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[ 7 ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett 
[ 2 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson 
[ 3 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns 
[ 5 ] Choice 5: Angus Lees 
[ 1 ] Choice 6: Andreas Schuldei
[   ] Choice 7: None Of The Above
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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Frank Küster
Debian Project Secretary [EMAIL PROTECTED] (va, manoj) wrote:

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 [ 7 ] Choice 1: Jonathan Walther 
 [ 1 ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett 
 [ 2 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson 
 [ 4 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns 
 [ 5 ] Choice 5: Angus Lees 
 [ 3 ] Choice 6: Andreas Schuldei
 [ 6 ] Choice 7: None Of The Above
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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Otavio Salvador
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dps [   ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett 
dps [ 2 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson 
dps [ 3 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns 
dps [   ] Choice 5: Angus Lees 
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Re: Vote for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 01:38:09AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:12:36 +0200, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 
 
  Well, you have just to check the devotee code is doing what it is
  supposed to do, and that this is the actual code running on the
  actual ballots, you don't really need to look at the ballots. Since
  the devotee code is supposed to be deterministic, and always produce
  the same result for a determined set of votes independently of vote
  order and timing. If not we would have a serious problem, which we
  supposedly solved duing the vote method discussion back then.
 
   That is not true. If a person votes 5 times, and all of them
  differently, the way the vote is counted is not independent of vote
  order.

A true, but obviously it is independent on order of the last votes of any one
person :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2005

2005-04-04 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
This must be contagious :-)

On  04  2005 21:32, Otavio Salvador wrote:
 || On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:26:16 -0500
 || Debian Project Secretary [EMAIL PROTECTED] (va, manoj)
 || wrote:

 dps - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines
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 dps [   ] Choice 1: Jonathan Walther
 dps [   ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett
 dps [ 2 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson
 dps [ 3 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns
 dps [   ] Choice 5: Angus Lees
 dps [ 1 ] Choice 6: Andreas Schuldei
 dps [ 4 ] Choice 7: None Of The Above
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Re: Third call for votes for the debian project leader election 2 005

2005-04-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:42:55AM -0700, Gilbert, Joseph wrote:
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 46348448-74a5-40ae-a651-49704435ae8c
 [ 5 ] Choice 1: Jonathan Walther 
 [ 7 ] Choice 2: Matthew Garrett 
 [ 2 ] Choice 3: Branden Robinson 
 [ 3 ] Choice 4: Anthony Towns 
 [ 5 ] Choice 5: Angus Lees 
 [ 1 ] Choice 6: Andreas Schuldei
 [   ] Choice 7: None Of The Above
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Is this a belated April Fools' joke?

You didn't sign it, aren't a developer, and you CCd both
debian-devel-announce and the Debian Weekly News editors(!).
I'm not sure another vote for the cabal is newsworthy ;-)


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