Re: [all candidates] Return to the desert island (cont.)
On 03/21/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think the outcome of moving a package that falls in the requires external stuff from main to contrib would rarely qualify as silly. Take for example the twitter perl packages. The API is changing (of course that is something outside of Debian's control,). As a consequence, those packages are now up for removal from testing (since they're going to be broken for an entire stable release): http://bugs.debian.org/703257 If instead those packages were in contrib, which is of course considered not supported, if/when those external interfaces break, then at least the user knew upfront that they were taking a risk that their unsupported software may someday break. Part of the nuance is living up to user expectations. Would you put something like Pidgin in contrib? And to make sure you wont dismiss my point and answer that it has support for XMPP wich is an open protocol: and what if it had only support for the non-free protocols, like only MSN, AIM, Yahoo and such, and zero support for the open protocols like IRC and XMPP? Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514aa292.2030...@debian.org
Re: [all candidates] Return to the desert island (cont.)
On 03/21/2013 02:02 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 03/21/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: I think the outcome of moving a package that falls in the requires external stuff from main to contrib would rarely qualify as silly. Take for example the twitter perl packages. The API is changing (of course that is something outside of Debian's control,). As a consequence, those packages are now up for removal from testing (since they're going to be broken for an entire stable release): http://bugs.debian.org/703257 If instead those packages were in contrib, which is of course considered not supported, if/when those external interfaces break, then at least the user knew upfront that they were taking a risk that their unsupported software may someday break. Part of the nuance is living up to user expectations. Would you put something like Pidgin in contrib? And to make sure you wont dismiss my point and answer that it has support for XMPP wich is an open protocol: and what if it had only support for the non-free protocols, like only MSN, AIM, Yahoo and such, and zero support for the open protocols like IRC and XMPP? I withdraw this, pidgin-facebookchat is a better example... :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514aa3a4.3080...@debian.org
