Re: DDs with no key in the keyring [was: Please include unique voters in GR graphs]
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 06:12:18PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Mattia Rizzolo dijo [Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 06:19:27PM +0100]: > > > > i.e. the only accepted "investigation" > > > > method, likewise take a ton of time (and the fairly limited amount of > > > > empathy from the people doing it). > > > > > > You have all my sympathy and respect for doing what you do! :) > > > > If it can comfort you, I think there were like an hundred more a couple > > of years ago or somesuch (number coming out of my mind). > > FWIW, many among them are still "leftover" from the 1024D keyring > purge (Jan 2015). We removed around ¼ of the then-active keys, and > many from them have not yet uploaded a new key. I think that, after five years of being unable to do any DD specific work, not having bothered to get a new key signed proves they have no interest in being a DD anymore. It's probably time to set a hard deadline. > (and many thanks+hugs to Mattia!) Yeah, thanks Mattia for the good work and bearing being cursed at! Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ A MAP07 (Dead Simple) raspberry tincture recipe: 0.5l 95% alcohol, ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ 1kg raspberries, 0.4kg sugar; put into a big jar for 1 month. ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ Filter out and throw away the fruits (can dump them into a cake, ⠈⠳⣄ etc), let the drink age at least 3-6 months.
Re: DDs with no key in the keyring [was: Please include unique voters in GR graphs]
Mattia Rizzolo dijo [Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 06:19:27PM +0100]: > > > i.e. the only accepted "investigation" > > > method, likewise take a ton of time (and the fairly limited amount of > > > empathy from the people doing it). > > > > You have all my sympathy and respect for doing what you do! :) > > If it can comfort you, I think there were like an hundred more a couple > of years ago or somesuch (number coming out of my mind). FWIW, many among them are still "leftover" from the 1024D keyring purge (Jan 2015). We removed around ¼ of the then-active keys, and many from them have not yet uploaded a new key. Greetings, (and many thanks+hugs to Mattia!) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: DDs with no key in the keyring [was: Please include unique voters in GR graphs]
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 06:14:40PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Because apparently kicking them out without a proper investigation takes > > time, and the MIA process Looks like I botchered this sentence. This should have read: "because apparently kicking them out without a proper investigation is not acceptable, and the MIS process…" > > i.e. the only accepted "investigation" > > method, likewise take a ton of time (and the fairly limited amount of > > empathy from the people doing it). > > You have all my sympathy and respect for doing what you do! :) If it can comfort you, I think there were like an hundred more a couple of years ago or somesuch (number coming out of my mind). -- regards, Mattia Rizzolo GPG Key: 66AE 2B4A FCCF 3F52 DA18 4D18 4B04 3FCD B944 4540 .''`. More about me: https://mapreri.org : :' : Launchpad user: https://launchpad.net/~mapreri `. `'` Debian QA page: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=mattia `- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: DDs with no key in the keyring [was: Please include unique voters in GR graphs]
On 12/28/19 5:52 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:08:44PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> So, this means there's 101 DDs that don't have a GPG key in the keyring? >> Wow, that's a big amount. Do we have an idea of how long these DDs are >> in that state? Why are they still DDs? > > Because apparently kicking them out without a proper investigation takes > time, and the MIA process, i.e. the only accepted "investigation" > method, likewise take a ton of time (and the fairly limited amount of > empathy from the people doing it). Mattia, You have all my sympathy and respect for doing what you do! :) Thomas
Re: Please include unique voters in GR graphs
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 04:44:00PM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > Kurt Roeckx: > > [...] > >> > >> Thanks, that would be great. :) > > > > So I've done it for the current vote, it's on the website now. > > > > > > Kurt > > > > Thanks. :) > > Should the Y-axis label be updated to say "Ballots / Voters"? > Otherwise, it looks as expected. :) Updated. Should I do this for other past votes too? I should probably also update devotee to do this instead. Kurt
Re: DDs with no key in the keyring [was: Please include unique voters in GR graphs]
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:08:44PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > So, this means there's 101 DDs that don't have a GPG key in the keyring? > Wow, that's a big amount. Do we have an idea of how long these DDs are > in that state? Why are they still DDs? Because apparently kicking them out without a proper investigation takes time, and the MIA process, i.e. the only accepted "investigation" method, likewise take a ton of time (and the fairly limited amount of empathy from the people doing it). -- regards, Mattia Rizzolo GPG Key: 66AE 2B4A FCCF 3F52 DA18 4D18 4B04 3FCD B944 4540 .''`. More about me: https://mapreri.org : :' : Launchpad user: https://launchpad.net/~mapreri `. `'` Debian QA page: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=mattia `- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
General Resolution: init systems and systemd results:
Hi, The results of the General Resolution about init systems and systemd is: Option 2 "B: Systemd but we support exploring alternatives" The details of the results are available at: https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 Kurt Roeckx Debian Project Secretary signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Please include unique voters in GR graphs
Kurt Roeckx: > [...] >> >> Thanks, that would be great. :) > > So I've done it for the current vote, it's on the website now. > > > Kurt > Thanks. :) Should the Y-axis label be updated to say "Ballots / Voters"? Otherwise, it looks as expected. :) Thanks, ~Niels
Re: Please include unique voters in GR graphs
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 08:26:00AM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > Kurt Roeckx: > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 07:56:00AM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> It seems that GR has a stats/graph page like this: > >> * https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initsystems/ (ongoing) > >> * https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/suppl_001_stats (finished) > >> > >> This includes a graph over ballots received, votes tallied etc. over > >> time. I would like to see the number of unique votes as well. The > >> unique voters count is interesting because it reflects our voter turnout. > > > > I theory I have this data, even for some of the historic votes. It > > just requires parsing some of the files it kept during the vote, > > and generate a file for gnuplot, and then let gnuplot print that. > > If I remember, I'll try to do this after the vote. > > > > [...] > > > > Kurt > > > > Thanks, that would be great. :) So I've done it for the current vote, it's on the website now. Kurt
Re: Please include unique voters in GR graphs
Kurt Roeckx: > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 07:56:00AM +, Niels Thykier wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It seems that GR has a stats/graph page like this: >> * https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initsystems/ (ongoing) >> * https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/suppl_001_stats (finished) >> >> This includes a graph over ballots received, votes tallied etc. over >> time. I would like to see the number of unique votes as well. The >> unique voters count is interesting because it reflects our voter turnout. > > I theory I have this data, even for some of the historic votes. It > just requires parsing some of the files it kept during the vote, > and generate a file for gnuplot, and then let gnuplot print that. > If I remember, I'll try to do this after the vote. > > [...] > > Kurt > Thanks, that would be great. :) ~Niels
