Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
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Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE The one 1 week discussion period is now over. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120514213310.ga1...@roeckx.be
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 01:17:45AM +0200, Mònica Ramírez Arceda wrote: I think I'm late but... As long as nobody called for the vote, I don't see a problem adding more seconds. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120510200341.ga17...@roeckx.be
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
I think I'm late but... TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded! And thanks a lot for this text :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
This one time, at band camp, Francesca Ciceri said: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. Thanks, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :sg...@debian.org | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded Best regards Jan Dittberner -- Jan Dittberner - Debian Developer GPG-key: 4096R/558FB8DD 2009-05-10 B2FF 1D95 CE8F 7A22 DF4C F09B A73E 0055 558F B8DD http://ddportfolio.debian.net/ - http://people.debian.org/~jandd/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE I know we've long passed the threshold, but: seconded. Also, as others have pointed out: Q: What will be the procedure for maintaining/updating the statement, once voted? A: The gist of the statement will be fixed by the GR. But in order to avoid needing a vote for every minor tweak, language improvements can be applied by the -www team as for other parts of www.d.o and more substantial changes, that do not change the spirit, can be discussed on -project. You can't do that. If it's just a statement that hasn't seen a GR, fine, then the -www team can change it. If, however, the text was decided by GR, then that's a different matter; you can't change it without another GR. Remember 2004_003? (gawd, is it that long ago already? oh well). That was about changes that according to the proposers did not change the meaning of the original text, but rather just 'clarified' it; yet it has had an enormous impact on the project as a whole, and in fact changed some of our policies. Anyway, as the FAQ is not part of the official text, it can't set the procedure for future modifications, so this is probably moot. -- The volume of a pizza of thickness a and radius z can be described by the following formula: pi zz a signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
Holas, I know I'm slightly late but still... On Montag, 7. Mai 2012, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE seconded! And many thanks to all who contributed to this and especially to Francesca for starting it! == FAQ == Partly NACK as others pointed out already. For translations I suggest to simply add a note The Debian Developers agreed on the English original or such. cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
I know it's late and repetitive, but still... TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded! Thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion that led to creating such a beautiful statement! It's a work of art. -- Love, Marga signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
Dear Debian Developers, A recent discussion [1] on Debian Women mailing list made me realize that the Debian Project, the community behind the *Universal* Operating System, doesn't have a diversity statement. The *technical* part of the project is already commited to diversity: we don't accept (in our main repository) licenses which discriminate for persons, groups or fields of endeavor (DFSG, points 5. and 6.). IMO is time for a similar statement also for the *community* part of the project. Below (between lines) you'll find the the text to be voted. There are just a couple of changes from the previous draft: * s/It doesn't matter/No matter/ : Luca Filipozzi kindly noticed (in a private mail) that It doesn't matter has the feeling of we don't care while no matter has a better feel. * corrected wrapping of last lines, thanks to Iustin Pop At the end of the mail, a couple of FAQ about the diversity statement, raised during the debate on -project, which hopefully will be useful for peole who didn't follow the (one-month long) thread. Thank you for your attention, Francesca TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE == FAQ == Q: What is a diversity statement? A: A diversity statement is a document expliciting something really important: that everyone (regardless of whatever thing people may usually be discriminated for) is welcome to join our project. Q: Why we need a GR for it? A: During the last two months, various people helped me in drafting one for the Debian Project [2]. We reach a wide consensus on the text, but as for Constitution §4.1.5 for [position] statement a GR is necessary (see [3]). So, here we are. :) Q: Which will be the consequences of adopting it? A: A diversity statement is *not* a Code of Conduct. We are not adding new rules. As Russ Allbery said [4]: It's a statement of ideals. Statements of ideals don't generally change things in the way that, oh, code or even enforced policies change things. The influence is at best subtle. But I think statements of ideals are useful things to have because they help people think about ideals, and remember that the ideals are important, and that we can all do something to live up to those ideals. And that that can be as significant of an action as fixing a technical bug. Q: What about hateful ideologies? Do we welcome them as well? A: Here the relevant bit is: We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. In addition, let me borrow again some words from Russ [5]: The point of a diversity statement is not to accept all behavior of any kind. It's to make a positive statement about what sort of behavior we're actively seeking out and want to align. Q: What will be the procedure for maintaining/updating the statement, once voted? A: The gist of the statement will be fixed by the GR. But in order to avoid needing a vote for every minor tweak, language improvements can be applied by the -www team as for other parts of www.d.o and more substantial changes, that do not change the spirit, can be discussed on -project. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2012/03/msg6.html (and following messages) [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/03/msg00048.html (and following messages) [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/04/msg00088.html [4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/03/msg00060.html [5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/03/msg00061.html -- Nostra patria è il mondo intero e nostra legge è la libertà ed un pensiero ribelle in cor ci sta. P.Gori signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE
The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone.
No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we
welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they
interact constructively with our community.
While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value
and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas,
and welcome them into our community.
TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE
Seconded.
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Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
Hi! * Francesca Ciceri madame...@debian.org [120507 20:32]: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. Many thanks to all that participated in the discussion and especially to Francesca for starting it! Best regards, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: Dear Debian Developers, A recent discussion [1] on Debian Women mailing list made me realize that the Debian Project, the community behind the *Universal* Operating System, doesn't have a diversity statement. The *technical* part of the project is already commited to diversity: we don't accept (in our main repository) licenses which discriminate for persons, groups or fields of endeavor (DFSG, points 5. and 6.). IMO is time for a similar statement also for the *community* part of the project. Below (between lines) you'll find the the text to be voted. There are just a couple of changes from the previous draft: * s/It doesn't matter/No matter/ : Luca Filipozzi kindly noticed (in a private mail) that It doesn't matter has the feeling of we don't care while no matter has a better feel. * corrected wrapping of last lines, thanks to Iustin Pop At the end of the mail, a couple of FAQ about the diversity statement, raised during the debate on -project, which hopefully will be useful for peole who didn't follow the (one-month long) thread. Thank you for your attention, Francesca TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded, thanks a lot! iustin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
* Francesca Ciceri madame...@debian.org, 2012-05-07, 20:32: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. == FAQ == [snip] Q: What will be the procedure for maintaining/updating the statement, once voted? A: The gist of the statement will be fixed by the GR. But in order to avoid needing a vote for every minor tweak, language improvements can be applied by the -www team as for other parts of www.d.o NACK -- Jakub Wilk signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
Le lundi, 7 mai 2012 20.32:41, Francesca Ciceri a écrit : TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded, with many thanks to the involved persons that patiently permitted this statement to be submitted as GR, especially Francesca! Cheers, OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
Francesca Ciceri madame...@debian.org (07/05/2012): TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded, with many thanks to Francesca. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. :) -- Jérémy Bobbio.''`. lu...@debian.org: :Ⓐ : # apt-get install anarchism `. `'` `- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. -- Luca Filipozzi Member, Debian System Administration Team signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 20:32:41 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: Q: What will be the procedure for maintaining/updating the statement, once voted? A: The gist of the statement will be fixed by the GR. But in order to avoid needing a vote for every minor tweak, language improvements can be applied by the -www team as for other parts of www.d.o and more substantial changes, that do not change the spirit, can be discussed on -project. I hope if this gets approved by a GR, any later changes would have to go through the same procedure. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, 07 May 2012 20:32:41 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded. Thanks, Francesca! Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Homepage: http://info.comodo.priv.at/ - OpenPGP key 0xBB3A68018649AA06 : :' : Debian GNU/Linux user, admin, and developer - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' Member of VIBE!AT SPI, fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe `- NP: Didier Squiban: Bannec signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:32:41PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: TEXT TO BE VOTED STARTS HERE The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone. No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they interact constructively with our community. While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas, and welcome them into our community. TEXT TO BE VOTED ENDS HERE Seconded! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
