Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board: First call for votes
Hello Debian community,
I was surprised to see that kind of news... I do not have lot of time
for IT for the moment, but I read my email and I see that...
For the moment, what I understand, he just speak, nothing's more, maybe
with "clumsiness" about some subject...
It is a kind of freedom to try to speak about one subject. No ?
When someone try to speak as "phylosophist" there is test/trial,
sometimes good, sometimes less good, sometimes bad...
I don't know RMS as a friend, I just read on internet what he has done
for free software..., but, when we read what he writes, when we heard
what he says... Maybe sometimes words are misused, it happens to all of
us, sometimes words are misunderstood... Sometimes it is difficult in
few minutes to explain a feeling, a situation, a mindset, a concept...
And another thing, it is more difficult when we do not use the same
language as mother tong, I think more misunderstanding are possible...
On the internet and some kind of media feeling could be misleading...
I think if free software world lose RMS, it should be a great lose.
By my side I think and I hope this person is a good person, I do not
want to judge so quickly.
I think we have to take care.
If I miss something in the story, I am open to explanation, talk...
Thanks.
JC
On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 01:50 +0200, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt
Roeckx wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is the first call for votes on the General Resolution about
> a statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF
> board.
>
> Voting period starts 2021-04-04 00:00:00 UTC
> Votes must be received by 2021-04-17 23:59:59 UTC
>
> The following ballot is for voting on a statement regarding Richard
> Stallman's readmission to the FSF board.
>
> This vote is being conducted as required by the Debian Constitution.
> You may see the constitution at
> https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.
> For voting questions or problems contact secret...@debian.org.
>
> The details of the general resolution can be found at:
> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>
> Also, note that you can get a fresh ballot any time before the end of
> the vote by sending a signed mail to
> bal...@vote.debian.org
> with the subject "gr_rms".
>
> To vote you need to be a Debian Developer.
>
> HOW TO VOTE
>
> To cast a vote, it is necessary to send this ballot filled out to a
> dedicated e-mail address, in a signed message, as described below.
> The dedicated email address this ballot should be sent to is:
>
> gr_...@vote.debian.org
>
> The form you need to fill out is contained below in this
> message, marked with two lines containing the characters
> '-=-=-=-=-=-'. Do not erase anything between those lines, and do not
> change the choice names.
>
> There are 8 choices in the form, which you may rank with numbers
> between
> 1 and 8. In the brackets next to your preferred choice, place a 1.
> Place a 2 in the brackets next to your next choice. Continue until
> you
> reach your last choice. Do not enter a number smaller than 1 or
> larger
> than 8.
>
> You may skip numbers, leave some choices unranked, and rank options
> equally. Unranked choices are considered equally the least desired
> choices, and ranked below all ranked choices.
>
> To vote "no, no matter what", rank "Further Discussion" as more
> desirable
> than the unacceptable choices, or you may rank the "Further
> Discussion"
> choice and leave choices you consider unacceptable blank. (Note: if
> the
> "Further Discussion" choice is unranked, then it is equal to all
> other
> unranked choices, if any -- no special consideration is given to the
> "Further Discussion" choice by the voting software).
>
> Finally, mail the filled out ballot to: gr_...@vote.debian.org.
>
> Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters
> (">")
> that your reply inserts.
>
> NOTE: The vote must be GPG signed (or PGP signed) with your key that
> is
> in the Debian keyring. You may, if you wish, choose to send a signed,
> encrypted ballot: use the vote key appended below for encryption.
>
> The voting software (Devotee) accepts mail that either contains only
> an
> unmangled OpenPGP message (RFC 2440 compliant), or a PGP/MIME mail
> (RFC 3156 compliant). To avoid problems I suggest you use PGP/MIME.
>
>
> VOTING SECRECY
>
> This is a non-secret vote. After the voting period is over the
> details on
> who voted what will be published. During the vote itself the only
> information that will be published is who voted.
>
> You can encrypt your message to the voting system to keep your vote
> secret
> until the end of the voting period. The software will also try to
> keep
> your vote secret and will encrypt the reply it sends to you.
>
> VOTING FORM
>
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-
> =-=-=-
> 4c932db2-1cdc-4ea0-a6f7-ac8ba2fc010c
> [ ] Choice 1: Call for the FSF board removal, as in rms-open-
> letter.github.io
> [ ]
Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board: First call for votes
Hello Debian community,
I was surprised to see that kind of news... I do not have lot of time
for IT for the moment, but I read my email and I see that...
For the moment, what I understand, he just speak, nothing's more, maybe
with "clumsiness" about some subject...
It is a kind of freedom to try to speak about one subject. No ?
When someone try to speak as "phylosophist" there is test/trial,
sometimes good, sometimes less good, sometimes bad...
I don't know RMS as a friend, I just read on internet what he has done
for free software..., but, when we read what he writes, when we heard
what he says... Maybe sometimes words are misused, it happens to all of
us, sometimes words are misunderstood... Sometimes it is difficult in
few minutes to explain a feeling, a situation, a mindset... And another
thing, it is more difficult when we do not use the same language as
mother tong, I think more misunderstanding are possible... And on the
internet and some kind of media feeling could be misleading...
I think if free software world lose RMS, it should be a great lose.
By my side I think and I hope this person is a good person, I do not
want to judge so quickly.
I think we have to take care.
If I miss something in the story, I am open to explanation, talk...
Thanks.
JC
On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 01:50 +0200, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt
Roeckx wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is the first call for votes on the General Resolution about
> a statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF
> board.
>
> Voting period starts 2021-04-04 00:00:00 UTC
> Votes must be received by 2021-04-17 23:59:59 UTC
>
> The following ballot is for voting on a statement regarding Richard
> Stallman's readmission to the FSF board.
>
> This vote is being conducted as required by the Debian Constitution.
> You may see the constitution at
> https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.
> For voting questions or problems contact secret...@debian.org.
>
> The details of the general resolution can be found at:
> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
>
> Also, note that you can get a fresh ballot any time before the end of
> the vote by sending a signed mail to
> bal...@vote.debian.org
> with the subject "gr_rms".
>
> To vote you need to be a Debian Developer.
>
> HOW TO VOTE
>
> To cast a vote, it is necessary to send this ballot filled out to a
> dedicated e-mail address, in a signed message, as described below.
> The dedicated email address this ballot should be sent to is:
>
> gr_...@vote.debian.org
>
> The form you need to fill out is contained below in this
> message, marked with two lines containing the characters
> '-=-=-=-=-=-'. Do not erase anything between those lines, and do not
> change the choice names.
>
> There are 8 choices in the form, which you may rank with numbers
> between
> 1 and 8. In the brackets next to your preferred choice, place a 1.
> Place a 2 in the brackets next to your next choice. Continue until
> you
> reach your last choice. Do not enter a number smaller than 1 or
> larger
> than 8.
>
> You may skip numbers, leave some choices unranked, and rank options
> equally. Unranked choices are considered equally the least desired
> choices, and ranked below all ranked choices.
>
> To vote "no, no matter what", rank "Further Discussion" as more
> desirable
> than the unacceptable choices, or you may rank the "Further
> Discussion"
> choice and leave choices you consider unacceptable blank. (Note: if
> the
> "Further Discussion" choice is unranked, then it is equal to all
> other
> unranked choices, if any -- no special consideration is given to the
> "Further Discussion" choice by the voting software).
>
> Finally, mail the filled out ballot to: gr_...@vote.debian.org.
>
> Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters
> (">")
> that your reply inserts.
>
> NOTE: The vote must be GPG signed (or PGP signed) with your key that
> is
> in the Debian keyring. You may, if you wish, choose to send a signed,
> encrypted ballot: use the vote key appended below for encryption.
>
> The voting software (Devotee) accepts mail that either contains only
> an
> unmangled OpenPGP message (RFC 2440 compliant), or a PGP/MIME mail
> (RFC 3156 compliant). To avoid problems I suggest you use PGP/MIME.
>
>
> VOTING SECRECY
>
> This is a non-secret vote. After the voting period is over the
> details on
> who voted what will be published. During the vote itself the only
> information that will be published is who voted.
>
> You can encrypt your message to the voting system to keep your vote
> secret
> until the end of the voting period. The software will also try to
> keep
> your vote secret and will encrypt the reply it sends to you.
>
> VOTING FORM
>
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-
> =-=-=-
> 4c932db2-1cdc-4ea0-a6f7-ac8ba2fc010c
> [ ] Choice 1: Call for the FSF board removal, as in rms-open-
> letter.github.io
> [ ] Choice 2:
General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board: First call for votes
Hi,
This is the first call for votes on the General Resolution about
a statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board.
Voting period starts 2021-04-04 00:00:00 UTC
Votes must be received by 2021-04-17 23:59:59 UTC
The following ballot is for voting on a statement regarding Richard
Stallman's readmission to the FSF board.
This vote is being conducted as required by the Debian Constitution.
You may see the constitution at https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.
For voting questions or problems contact secret...@debian.org.
The details of the general resolution can be found at:
https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
Also, note that you can get a fresh ballot any time before the end of
the vote by sending a signed mail to
bal...@vote.debian.org
with the subject "gr_rms".
To vote you need to be a Debian Developer.
HOW TO VOTE
To cast a vote, it is necessary to send this ballot filled out to a
dedicated e-mail address, in a signed message, as described below.
The dedicated email address this ballot should be sent to is:
gr_...@vote.debian.org
The form you need to fill out is contained below in this
message, marked with two lines containing the characters
'-=-=-=-=-=-'. Do not erase anything between those lines, and do not
change the choice names.
There are 8 choices in the form, which you may rank with numbers between
1 and 8. In the brackets next to your preferred choice, place a 1.
Place a 2 in the brackets next to your next choice. Continue until you
reach your last choice. Do not enter a number smaller than 1 or larger
than 8.
You may skip numbers, leave some choices unranked, and rank options
equally. Unranked choices are considered equally the least desired
choices, and ranked below all ranked choices.
To vote "no, no matter what", rank "Further Discussion" as more desirable
than the unacceptable choices, or you may rank the "Further Discussion"
choice and leave choices you consider unacceptable blank. (Note: if the
"Further Discussion" choice is unranked, then it is equal to all other
unranked choices, if any -- no special consideration is given to the
"Further Discussion" choice by the voting software).
Finally, mail the filled out ballot to: gr_...@vote.debian.org.
Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">")
that your reply inserts.
NOTE: The vote must be GPG signed (or PGP signed) with your key that is
in the Debian keyring. You may, if you wish, choose to send a signed,
encrypted ballot: use the vote key appended below for encryption.
The voting software (Devotee) accepts mail that either contains only an
unmangled OpenPGP message (RFC 2440 compliant), or a PGP/MIME mail
(RFC 3156 compliant). To avoid problems I suggest you use PGP/MIME.
VOTING SECRECY
This is a non-secret vote. After the voting period is over the details on
who voted what will be published. During the vote itself the only
information that will be published is who voted.
You can encrypt your message to the voting system to keep your vote secret
until the end of the voting period. The software will also try to keep
your vote secret and will encrypt the reply it sends to you.
VOTING FORM
- - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
4c932db2-1cdc-4ea0-a6f7-ac8ba2fc010c
[ ] Choice 1: Call for the FSF board removal, as in rms-open-letter.github.io
[ ] Choice 2: Call for Stallman's resignation from all FSF bodies
[ ] Choice 3: Discourage collaboration with the FSF while Stallman is in a
leading position
[ ] Choice 4: Call on the FSF to further its governance processes
[ ] Choice 5: Support Stallman's reinstatement, as in
rms-support-letter.github.io
[ ] Choice 6: Denounce the witch-hunt against RMS and the FSF
[ ] Choice 7: Debian will not issue a public statement on this issue
[ ] Choice 8: Further Discussion
- - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
--
BALLOT OPTIONS
Choice 1: Call for the FSF board removal, as in rms-open-letter.github.io
=
The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard
Stallman's readmission to the FSF board seen at
https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md.
The text of this statement is given below.
Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a
dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He
has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among
other serious accusations of impropriety. These sorts of beliefs
have no place in the free software, digital rights, and tech
communities. With his recent reinstatement to the Board of Directors
of the Free Software Foundation, we call for the entire Board of the
FSF to step down and for RMS to be removed from all leadership
positions.
We, the undersigned, believe in the necessity
