Re: [Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process [rescinded]

2009-03-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 01:12:45AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
  Hello developers,
  
  I am hereby proposing the amendement below to the General resolution
  entitled Enhance requirements for General resolutions.
  
  PROPOSAL START
  
  General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian
  Project, which have served us well since the first GR vote in 2003,
  with 804 developers, nearly has much as today slightly over 1000
  developers.
  
  Therefore the Debian project reaffirms its attachement to the constitution
  and the current General Resolutions process.
  
  PROPOSAL END
 
 I am rescinding this amendment. Please second Lucas amendment instead,
 which has a cleaner wording.

Robert,

You're were the only one seconding that proposal, and now
the proposer of this amendment.  You might want to withdraw
too and second Lucas's proposal instead.


Kurt


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Re: [Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process [rescinded]

2009-03-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:07:03PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 01:12:45AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
   Hello developers,
   
   I am hereby proposing the amendement below to the General resolution
   entitled Enhance requirements for General resolutions.
   
   PROPOSAL START
   
   General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian
   Project, which have served us well since the first GR vote in 2003,
   with 804 developers, nearly has much as today slightly over 1000
   developers.
   
   Therefore the Debian project reaffirms its attachement to the constitution
   and the current General Resolutions process.
   
   PROPOSAL END
  
  I am rescinding this amendment. Please second Lucas amendment instead,
  which has a cleaner wording.
 
 Robert,
 
 You're were the only one seconding that proposal, and now
 the proposer of this amendment.  You might want to withdraw
 too and second Lucas's proposal instead.

Thanks Kurt.

I've seconded Lucas' amendment in a separate mail, and I'm hereby rescinding
my second to Bill's amendment.

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all.


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Re: [Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process [rescinded]

2009-03-25 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
 Hello developers,
 
 I am hereby proposing the amendement below to the General resolution
 entitled Enhance requirements for General resolutions.
 
 PROPOSAL START
 
 General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian
 Project, which have served us well since the first GR vote in 2003,
 with 804 developers, nearly has much as today slightly over 1000
 developers.
 
 Therefore the Debian project reaffirms its attachement to the constitution
 and the current General Resolutions process.
 
 PROPOSAL END

I am rescinding this amendment. Please second Lucas amendment instead,
which has a cleaner wording.

I would like to offer an apology for the fact that this proposal seemed to
imply that the first GR was in 2003. This was an honest mistake.
While there have been no GR in 2000-2002, GR were passed in 1999, though
vote.debian.org lists them differently. 
constitution passed in 1998 is not really a GR since the constitution
was not ratified yet.
Neither Logo License nor new logos required seconds.
Swap logos did, but vote.debian.org does not give information about the
vote, though the resolution was approved (maybe without a vote).

(Thanks to Neil McGovern for pointing this out).

Cheers,
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