Bug#852167: even with quirks gone, the tools are needed

[Axel Beckert]

Hi,

Adam Borowski wrote:
> > the quirks applied by pm-utils aren't really needed anymore nowadays.  I
> > suspect some of the are actually harmful these days.
> 
> But even if we get rid of the quirks, the actual tools (/usr/sbin/pm-*) are
> still needed.

Indeed, not only because of its reverse dependencies, but also because
(at least to my knowledge -- and I'd be happy to stand corrected)
they're the only (KISS/non-systemd/non-dbus-ish) commandline tools in
Debian which can suspend or hibernate a machine from the command-line.

Regards, Axel
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Bug#852167: even with quirks gone, the tools are needed

[Adam Borowski]

> the quirks applied by pm-utils aren't really needed anymore nowadays.  I
> suspect some of the are actually harmful these days.

But even if we get rid of the quirks, the actual tools (/usr/sbin/pm-*) are
still needed.

> Also, with the switch to systemd/logind, pm-utils is no longer used by
> default for suspend/resume which means we are not actively using pm-utils
> either anymore.

With systemd-shim hardly working, and being likely on its way out, using
systemd/logind for suspend/resume is not a reasonable idea; pm-utils are a
simple building block.


The package consists of two parts:
* scripts that handle the commands, passing them to backends, some logic
  like setting disk spindown
* working around bugs in a random shit laptop whose vendor I won't call any
  names they deserve as any such comparison would be unfair to retarded
  monkeys on crack
The first part is much needed, maintaining the second would require an
extreme masochist.


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