link to devel/release_info
The link to devel/release_notes has been deleted from the main web page. devel/release_notes provides information that is frequently requested; primarily what version of the kernel and X are included in the next (or current if appropriate) release. Although I understand the reasoning behind removing the link, as the person who answers most of the mail sent to webmaster, I'm not happy it. Perhaps the information mentioned above can be added to the release notes under releases/stable. There really is a bigger issue here. How do users easily find out what is (will be) available in current (future) releases? The release-notes available with 2.1 answer most of the FAQs, but not all. What document should be used for distributing information on an upcoming release? Should this document contain information on long term goals? (almost certainly yes) Finally the clincher: who will maintain this page? I'd like to see something that is managed by the release manager. They should have a grasp on both where Debian is and where it is going. The release notes included with each release can then be generated from the information on this page. What do people think? Jay Treacy
recent_list.wml and double quotes in titles
recent_list.wml doesn't parse escaped double quotes in news titles properly (e. g. take a look at http://www.debian.org/News/1997/ and you'll see `\' in some titles). Instead of adding another kludge, I suggest modifying basic.wml to remove the need for escaping in page titles: --- english.orig/template/debian/basic.wml Wed Mar 17 11:38:41 1999 +++ english/template/debian/basic.wml Thu Mar 18 11:24:59 1999 @@ -44,12 +44,7 @@ {: [[s/mdash;/--/g]] [[s/ndash;/-/g]] [[s/[lr]dquo;//g]] [[s/lsquo;/`/g]] [[s/rsquo;/'/g]] HEAD -: if ($(BARETITLE) eq ) { - print TITLEDebian GNU/Linux -- $(title)/TITLE\n; - } else { - print TITLE$(title)/TITLE\n; - } -: +TITLE$(BARETITLE:*Debian GNU/Linux -- )$(title)/TITLE LINK REV=made HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=$(CHARSET) META NAME=Description CONTENT=blurb The full patch (which also removes existing kludges) is attached to this message. What do you think about it? Is it OK if I commit it to CVS (and change the affected news pages, of course)? diff -ru english.orig/template/debian/basic.wml english/template/debian/basic.wml --- english.orig/template/debian/basic.wml Wed Mar 17 11:38:41 1999 +++ english/template/debian/basic.wml Thu Mar 18 11:24:59 1999 @@ -44,12 +44,7 @@ {: [[s/mdash;/--/g]] [[s/ndash;/-/g]] [[s/[lr]dquo;//g]] [[s/lsquo;/`/g]] [[s/rsquo;/'/g]] HEAD -: if ($(BARETITLE) eq ) { - print TITLEDebian GNU/Linux -- $(title)/TITLE\n; - } else { - print TITLE$(title)/TITLE\n; - } -: +TITLE$(BARETITLE:*Debian GNU/Linux -- )$(title)/TITLE LINK REV=made HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=$(CHARSET) META NAME=Description CONTENT=blurb diff -ru english.orig/template/debian/news.wml english/template/debian/news.wml --- english.orig/template/debian/news.wml Wed Mar 17 11:39:00 1999 +++ english/template/debian/news.wmlThu Mar 18 11:24:59 1999 @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ #use wml::debian::basic title=news -- pagetitle #use wml::debian::languages -H2:= pagetitle :/H2 +H2pagetitle/H2 Pttrelease_date/ttbr mainbody diff -ru english.orig/template/debian/news_index.wml english/template/debian/news_index.wml --- english.orig/template/debian/news_index.wml Sun Jan 31 14:04:12 1999 +++ english/template/debian/news_index.wml Thu Mar 18 11:37:40 1999 @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ $date = ''; $title = ''; foreach $line (FILE) { if ($line =~ /^define-tag pagetitle(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $title = eval(\$1\); + $title = $1; } elsif ($line =~ /^define-tag release_date(.*)\/define-tag$/) { $date = $1; diff -ru english.orig/template/debian/recent_list.wml english/template/debian/recent_list.wml --- english.orig/template/debian/recent_list.wmlTue Mar 9 10:06:09 1999 +++ english/template/debian/recent_list.wml Thu Mar 18 11:41:50 1999 @@ -91,19 +91,19 @@ $date = ''; $title = ''; $desc = ''; foreach $line (FILE) { if ($line =~ /^define-tag pagetitle(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $title = qq/$1/; + $title = $1; } elsif ($line =~ /^define-tag release_date(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $date = qq/$1/; + $date = $1; } elsif ($line =~ /^define-tag report_date(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $date = qq/$1/; + $date = $1; } elsif ($line =~ /^define-tag date(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $date = qq/$1/; + $date = $1; } elsif ($line =~ /^define-tag description(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $desc = qq/$1/; + $desc = $1; } if ($title $date $desc) { $str1 = $elemheadtt[$date]/tt stronga href=\$year/$base\$title/a/strong - $elemfoot$descbr\n; diff -ru english.orig/template/debian/recent_news.wml english/template/debian/recent_news.wml --- english.orig/template/debian/recent_news.wmlSun Jan 31 14:03:08 1999 +++ english/template/debian/recent_news.wml Thu Mar 18 11:37:47 1999 @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ $date = ''; $title = ''; foreach $line (FILE) { if ($line =~ /^define-tag pagetitle(.*)\/define-tag$/) { - $title = eval(\$1\); + $title = $1; } elsif ($line =~ /^define-tag release_date(.*)\/define-tag$/) { $date = $1; diff -ru english.orig/template/debian/security.wml english/template/debian/security.wml ---
Re: link to devel/release_info
James == James A Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James The link to devel/release_notes has been deleted from the main James web page. devel/release_notes provides information that is James frequently requested; primarily what version of the kernel and James X are included in the next (or current if appropriate) release. Actually, that page is flawed for even this purpose: the kernel used is reported as 2.0.36. That is x86-specific and incorrect. For instance, for Debian/Sparc on the Sun4u architecture, you *have* to use 2.2.x (currently, 2.2.1). For m68k, they use 2.0.35. The X version is part of the release notes. I could easily add the default kernel version as well (I already have the data for all platforms). James Although I understand the reasoning behind removing the link, James as the person who answers most of the mail sent to webmaster, James I'm not happy it. Perhaps the information mentioned above can James be added to the release notes under releases/stable. Will do. Most of it is already there. Maybe I'll try to make it more prominent. James There really is a bigger issue here. How do users easily find James out what is (will be) available in current (future) releases? James The release-notes available with 2.1 answer most of the FAQs, James but not all. What document should be used for distributing James information on an upcoming release? Should this document James contain information on long term goals? (almost certainly yes) James Finally the clincher: who will maintain this page? I specifically added the release notes to the boot-floppies CVS area so the release team (if it's ever formed) can have easy access to it. Until then, Bob and I will maintain it. James I'd like to see something that is managed by the release James manager. They should have a grasp on both where Debian is and James where it is going. The release notes included with each release James can then be generated from the information on this page. I think it should be managed by the release *team*. The actual release manager (Guy or Brian, if he hasn't already left) will be too busy to much with this document and track all the platforms. I know the whole release team concept is still vapor, but still it's the only viable alternative I can see. -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
Re: link to devel/release_info
On Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 01:25:50AM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: The link to devel/release_notes has been deleted from the main web page. devel/release_notes provides information that is frequently requested; primarily what version of the kernel and X are included in the next (or current if appropriate) release. Deleted? Why? How? Where? WHO? I *don't* like that! And there isn't an obvious replacement other wise there wouldn't be this mail... Although I understand the reasoning behind removing the link, as the person who answers most of the mail sent to webmaster, I'm not happy it. Perhaps the information mentioned above can be added to the release notes under releases/stable. What was the reasoning? I'd like to see something that is managed by the release manager. They should have a grasp on both where Debian is and where it is going. The release notes included with each release can then be generated from the information on this page. Will the release manager do it, though? That's the important question. We can't dictate to him/them (when the post gets filled, has Richard been confirmed in the post?) pgpqA7DJRQ7OE.pgp Description: PGP signature