Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger

2000-03-28 Thread Adam Di Carlo

   Umm.. I know this is not that much integrated into wml but.. ¿have
you looked at the perl script made by Paolo Molaro, and modified by
Christophe Le Bars and myself? (the spanish version is in
w.d.o/international/spanish).
   The idea of this is to have a Perl database (using hash arrays gives
a lot of possible uses) that has an entry for each documents. It is quite
powerful and Chris and me use it to keep track of translations.
   That way you can do things like :
PERL
do 'ltcp.pl';
update_db_format();

dump_html(0);
/PERL

   Which dumps all documents marked as 'unavailable' (0). Of course
this can be cleaned up a bit and made more 'developer-friendly' :)

This sounds like what we're looking for.

.Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/


problem with the distrib/ftlist.wml page

2000-03-28 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi all,
I have a problem translating the page distrib/ftplist.wml that appear to create
a list without labels.

The problem is probably that english/distrib/ftplist.data is referring to the
function wml::debian::countries that I missed. Where should I find this macro to
translate it?

Thanks,
Giuseppe


Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger

2000-03-28 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

Please note that it might need some polishing. Anyhow I suggest you
look at how it works by looking in w.d.o/international/spanish or
w.d.o/international/french/ (I'm not sure if we are both using the same
database and program though)

We could have a modified version of the program to output the
information for the database of documents in the DDP and keep it compatible
with the spanish and french versions.
Anyhow I would like some explanations on the 'data' system used by
vendors+consultants... is it somehow compatible? What about wmh? Can we use
it?

If no one objects, I will try to use this program in order to:

a) move the DDP's wml file to the directory devel/ddp
b) remove the files regarding the documents and try to have them
automatically generated with this schema

Best regards

Javi


On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 12:15:05AM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
 
  Umm.. I know this is not that much integrated into wml but.. ¿have
 you looked at the perl script made by Paolo Molaro, and modified by
 Christophe Le Bars and myself? (the spanish version is in
 w.d.o/international/spanish).
  The idea of this is to have a Perl database (using hash arrays gives
 a lot of possible uses) that has an entry for each documents. It is quite
 powerful and Chris and me use it to keep track of translations.
  That way you can do things like :
 PERL
 do 'ltcp.pl';
 update_db_format();
 
 dump_html(0);
 /PERL
 
  Which dumps all documents marked as 'unavailable' (0). Of course
 this can be cleaned up a bit and made more 'developer-friendly' :)
 
 This sounds like what we're looking for.
 
 .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/


Bug#61151: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD

2000-03-28 Thread James A. Treacy
On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 07:48:34AM -, Joey Hess wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 Version: 2327
 Severity: normal
 Page: http://www.debian.org/social_contract
 
 Debian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the
 Debian Social Contract. The contract, initially designed as as a set of
 commitments that we agree to abide
 by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the
 Open Source Definition.
 
 That's a bit misleading, since the OSD does not include the entirety of the 
 social contract, but just the DFSG, which is either just a part of the
 social contract, or a standalone document, depending on who you ask.
 
Is the following better?

--- social_contract.wml.origTue Mar 28 10:32:10 2000
+++ social_contract.wml Tue Mar 28 10:26:12 2000
@@ -16,7 +16,8 @@
   --
 
 PDebian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the
-strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The contract, initially designed
+strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The a href=#guidelinesDebian Free 
Software
+Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed
 as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by
 the free software community as the basis of the
 a href=http://www.opensource.org/osd.html;Open Source Definition/a.
@@ -71,7 +72,7 @@
  lists) for non-free software packages.
 /OL
 HR
-H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines/a/H2
+H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)/a/H2
 OL
LIPstrongFree Redistribution/strong
  PThe license of a Debian component may not restrict any

 The bottom of the page gets it right, so I don't really know why the
 topmost paragraph is there at all.
 
The page needs an introduction, just as most pages which are commonly
referred to by newbies should have. The bit at the bottom of the page
was added at the request of Bruce. Since he was primary author of the
document, it only seemed fair.

-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Package: www.debian.org
Version: 2327
Severity: normal
Page: http://www.debian.org/social_contract

Debian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the
Debian Social Contract. The contract, initially designed as as a set of
commitments that we agree to abide
by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the
Open Source Definition.

That's a bit misleading, since the OSD does not include the entirety of the 
social contract, but just the DFSG, which is either just a part of the
social contract, or a standalone document, depending on who you ask.

The bottom of the page gets it right, so I don't really know why the
topmost paragraph is there at all.

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On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 07:48:34AM -, Joey Hess wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 Version: 2327
 Severity: normal
 Page: http://www.debian.org/social_contract
 
 Debian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the
 Debian Social Contract. The contract, initially designed as as a set of
 commitments that we agree to abide
 by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the
 Open Source Definition.
 
 That's a bit misleading, since the OSD does not include the entirety of the 
 social contract, but just the DFSG, which is either just a part of the
 social contract, or a standalone document, depending on who you ask.
 
Is the following better?

--- social_contract.wml.origTue Mar 28 10:32:10 2000
+++ social_contract.wml Tue Mar 28 10:26:12 2000
@@ -16,7 +16,8 @@
   --
 
 PDebian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the
-strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The contract, initially designed
+strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The a href=#guidelinesDebian Free 
Software
+Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed
 as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by
 the free software community as the basis of the
 a href=http://www.opensource.org/osd.html;Open Source Definition/a.
@@ -71,7 +72,7 @@
  lists) for non-free software packages.
 /OL
 HR
-H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines/a/H2
+H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)/a/H2
 OL
LIPstrongFree Redistribution/strong
  PThe license of a Debian component may not restrict any

 The bottom of the page gets it right, so I don't really know why the
 topmost paragraph is there at all.
 
The page needs an introduction, just as most pages which are commonly
referred to by newbies should have. The bit at the bottom of the page
was added at the request of Bruce. Since he was primary author of the
document, it only seemed 

Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger

2000-03-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 05:35:33PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
 a) move the DDP's wml file to the directory devel/ddp

That's doc/ddp, BTW.

-- 
Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification


Problem in the CVSweb script

2000-03-28 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

There seems to be a problem with cvs.debian.org, specifically with
the cvsweb script. If I try to get any sources., for example:
http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/Bugs/Access.wml?rev=1.6cvsroot=webwml

I get the following error:

Error: Unexpected output from cvs co: cvs checkout: Sorry, you don't have
read/write access to the history file cvs
[checkout aborted]: /cvs/webwml/CVSROOT/history: Permission denied 

Check whether the directory /cvs/webwml/CVSROOT exists and the script has
write-access to the
CVSROOT/history file if it exists.
The script needs to place lock files in the directory the file is in as
well. 

My idea is that the www-data daemon does not have permissions to
read/write in the cvs directory.
It maybe strange, but even if you're only reading you need r/w
access to the repository. This could be fixed in two ways:

- (simplest but not best) give the www daemon r/w access to the cvs

- (most complicated but best) make cvsweb.conf use a pserver 
access (as anonymous no r/w access is needed IIRC).

Best regards

Javi


Bug#61151: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD

2000-03-28 Thread Joey Hess
James A. Treacy wrote:
 Is the following better?

looks fine

 
 --- social_contract.wml.origTue Mar 28 10:32:10 2000
 +++ social_contract.wml Tue Mar 28 10:26:12 2000
 @@ -16,7 +16,8 @@
--
  
  PDebian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the
 -strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The contract, initially designed
 +strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The a href=#guidelinesDebian 
 Free Software
 +Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed
  as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by
  the free software community as the basis of the
  a href=http://www.opensource.org/osd.html;Open Source Definition/a.
 @@ -71,7 +72,7 @@
   lists) for non-free software packages.
  /OL
  HR
 -H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines/a/H2
 +H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)/a/H2
  OL
 LIPstrongFree Redistribution/strong
   PThe license of a Debian component may not restrict any

-- 
see shy jo


Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger

2000-03-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 09:16:05PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
   a) move the DDP's wml file to the directory devel/ddp
  
  That's doc/ddp, BTW.
 
   Adam's proposal suggested devel/ddp IIRC, for a way to have both
 unstable and stable documentation adn doc/ for only finished (i.e.
 stable) documentation.

Yes, that was the original idea, however, he told me later it would be
easier to just do a make publish into the same directory, and organize the
links from the web pages so that they differentiate finished and
non-finished stuff.

-- 
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Re: problem with the distrib/ftlist.wml page

2000-03-28 Thread James A. Treacy
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:54:02PM +, Giuseppe Sacco wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a problem translating the page distrib/ftplist.wml that appear to 
 create
 a list without labels.
 
 The problem is probably that english/distrib/ftplist.data is referring to the
 function wml::debian::countries that I missed. Where should I find this macro 
 to
 translate it?
 
All the template files are in english/template/debian . The file you are looking
for is countries.wml .

Since countries.wml already contains all (at least most) of the needed 
translations.
This leads me to believe that something else is wrong. Could you give the error
message you received?

-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Problem in the CVSweb script

2000-03-28 Thread James A. Treacy
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 07:47:34PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
 
   There seems to be a problem with cvs.debian.org, specifically with
 the cvsweb script. If I try to get any sources., for example:
 http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/Bugs/Access.wml?rev=1.6cvsroot=webwml
 
For those not in the know, this is a known problem and has been discussed
on debian-admin.

   My idea is that the www-data daemon does not have permissions to
 read/write in the cvs directory.
   It maybe strange, but even if you're only reading you need r/w
 access to the repository. This could be fixed in two ways:
 
   - (simplest but not best) give the www daemon r/w access to the cvs
 
Not best because of security concerns.

   - (most complicated but best) make cvsweb.conf use a pserver 
   access (as anonymous no r/w access is needed IIRC).
 
The problem is that no one has taken responsibility for seeing this through.
Until someone volunteers to do so, we will continue in this state of limbo.

BTW, I don't believe anyone has approached upstream about this problem. Perhaps
they can suggest or implement a solution for us.

-- 
James (Jay) Treacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Problem in the CVSweb script

2000-03-28 Thread Joey Hess
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 
 On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
 
  - (most complicated but best) make cvsweb.conf use a pserver 
  access (as anonymous no r/w access is needed IIRC).
 
 Is this even possible?

No, it's not. cvsweb accesses the repository directly. 

The proper solution is to make a separate directory for cvs lockfiles, and
give www-data write access to that, plus either give www-data write access to
CVSROOT/history or delete the file.

-- 
see shy jo