Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger
Umm.. I know this is not that much integrated into wml but.. ¿have you looked at the perl script made by Paolo Molaro, and modified by Christophe Le Bars and myself? (the spanish version is in w.d.o/international/spanish). The idea of this is to have a Perl database (using hash arrays gives a lot of possible uses) that has an entry for each documents. It is quite powerful and Chris and me use it to keep track of translations. That way you can do things like : PERL do 'ltcp.pl'; update_db_format(); dump_html(0); /PERL Which dumps all documents marked as 'unavailable' (0). Of course this can be cleaned up a bit and made more 'developer-friendly' :) This sounds like what we're looking for. .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
problem with the distrib/ftlist.wml page
Hi all, I have a problem translating the page distrib/ftplist.wml that appear to create a list without labels. The problem is probably that english/distrib/ftplist.data is referring to the function wml::debian::countries that I missed. Where should I find this macro to translate it? Thanks, Giuseppe
Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger
Please note that it might need some polishing. Anyhow I suggest you look at how it works by looking in w.d.o/international/spanish or w.d.o/international/french/ (I'm not sure if we are both using the same database and program though) We could have a modified version of the program to output the information for the database of documents in the DDP and keep it compatible with the spanish and french versions. Anyhow I would like some explanations on the 'data' system used by vendors+consultants... is it somehow compatible? What about wmh? Can we use it? If no one objects, I will try to use this program in order to: a) move the DDP's wml file to the directory devel/ddp b) remove the files regarding the documents and try to have them automatically generated with this schema Best regards Javi On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 12:15:05AM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Umm.. I know this is not that much integrated into wml but.. ¿have you looked at the perl script made by Paolo Molaro, and modified by Christophe Le Bars and myself? (the spanish version is in w.d.o/international/spanish). The idea of this is to have a Perl database (using hash arrays gives a lot of possible uses) that has an entry for each documents. It is quite powerful and Chris and me use it to keep track of translations. That way you can do things like : PERL do 'ltcp.pl'; update_db_format(); dump_html(0); /PERL Which dumps all documents marked as 'unavailable' (0). Of course this can be cleaned up a bit and made more 'developer-friendly' :) This sounds like what we're looking for. .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/
Bug#61151: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD
On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 07:48:34AM -, Joey Hess wrote: Package: www.debian.org Version: 2327 Severity: normal Page: http://www.debian.org/social_contract Debian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the Debian Social Contract. The contract, initially designed as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the Open Source Definition. That's a bit misleading, since the OSD does not include the entirety of the social contract, but just the DFSG, which is either just a part of the social contract, or a standalone document, depending on who you ask. Is the following better? --- social_contract.wml.origTue Mar 28 10:32:10 2000 +++ social_contract.wml Tue Mar 28 10:26:12 2000 @@ -16,7 +16,8 @@ -- PDebian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the -strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The contract, initially designed +strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The a href=#guidelinesDebian Free Software +Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the a href=http://www.opensource.org/osd.html;Open Source Definition/a. @@ -71,7 +72,7 @@ lists) for non-free software packages. /OL HR -H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines/a/H2 +H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)/a/H2 OL LIPstrongFree Redistribution/strong PThe license of a Debian component may not restrict any The bottom of the page gets it right, so I don't really know why the topmost paragraph is there at all. The page needs an introduction, just as most pages which are commonly referred to by newbies should have. The bit at the bottom of the page was added at the request of Bruce. Since he was primary author of the document, it only seemed fair. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#61151: marked as done (www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD)
Your message dated Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:38:40 -0500 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#61151: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 27 Mar 2000 07:48:36 + Received: (qmail 23284 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2000 07:48:36 - Received: from adsl-63-193-116-241.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO kitenet.net) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 27 Mar 2000 07:48:36 - Received: (qmail 23023 invoked by uid 500); 27 Mar 2000 07:48:34 - Date: 27 Mar 2000 07:48:34 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: bug 3.2.10 Package: www.debian.org Version: 2327 Severity: normal Page: http://www.debian.org/social_contract Debian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the Debian Social Contract. The contract, initially designed as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the Open Source Definition. That's a bit misleading, since the OSD does not include the entirety of the social contract, but just the DFSG, which is either just a part of the social contract, or a standalone document, depending on who you ask. The bottom of the page gets it right, so I don't really know why the topmost paragraph is there at all. -- System Information Debian Release: 2.2 Kernel Version: Linux kite 2.2.14 #1 Mon Jan 10 21:43:42 PST 2000 i686 unknown --- Received: (at 61151-done) by bugs.debian.org; 28 Mar 2000 15:37:00 + Received: (qmail 16825 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2000 15:36:58 - Received: from ppp17.math.uwaterloo.ca (HELO landru.home.net) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 28 Mar 2000 15:36:58 - Received: from treacy by landru.home.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 12Zy4m-0006Gi-00; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:38:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:38:40 -0500 From: James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bug#61151: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 07:48:34AM - On Mon, Mar 27, 2000 at 07:48:34AM -, Joey Hess wrote: Package: www.debian.org Version: 2327 Severity: normal Page: http://www.debian.org/social_contract Debian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the Debian Social Contract. The contract, initially designed as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the Open Source Definition. That's a bit misleading, since the OSD does not include the entirety of the social contract, but just the DFSG, which is either just a part of the social contract, or a standalone document, depending on who you ask. Is the following better? --- social_contract.wml.origTue Mar 28 10:32:10 2000 +++ social_contract.wml Tue Mar 28 10:26:12 2000 @@ -16,7 +16,8 @@ -- PDebian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the -strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The contract, initially designed +strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The a href=#guidelinesDebian Free Software +Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the a href=http://www.opensource.org/osd.html;Open Source Definition/a. @@ -71,7 +72,7 @@ lists) for non-free software packages. /OL HR -H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines/a/H2 +H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)/a/H2 OL LIPstrongFree Redistribution/strong PThe license of a Debian component may not restrict any The bottom of the page gets it right, so I don't really know why the topmost paragraph is there at all. The page needs an introduction, just as most pages which are commonly referred to by newbies should have. The bit at the bottom of the page was added at the request of Bruce. Since he was primary author of the document, it only seemed
Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 05:35:33PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: a) move the DDP's wml file to the directory devel/ddp That's doc/ddp, BTW. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Problem in the CVSweb script
There seems to be a problem with cvs.debian.org, specifically with the cvsweb script. If I try to get any sources., for example: http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/Bugs/Access.wml?rev=1.6cvsroot=webwml I get the following error: Error: Unexpected output from cvs co: cvs checkout: Sorry, you don't have read/write access to the history file cvs [checkout aborted]: /cvs/webwml/CVSROOT/history: Permission denied Check whether the directory /cvs/webwml/CVSROOT exists and the script has write-access to the CVSROOT/history file if it exists. The script needs to place lock files in the directory the file is in as well. My idea is that the www-data daemon does not have permissions to read/write in the cvs directory. It maybe strange, but even if you're only reading you need r/w access to the repository. This could be fixed in two ways: - (simplest but not best) give the www daemon r/w access to the cvs - (most complicated but best) make cvsweb.conf use a pserver access (as anonymous no r/w access is needed IIRC). Best regards Javi
Bug#61151: www.debian.org: social contract page incorrect about OSD
James A. Treacy wrote: Is the following better? looks fine --- social_contract.wml.origTue Mar 28 10:32:10 2000 +++ social_contract.wml Tue Mar 28 10:26:12 2000 @@ -16,7 +16,8 @@ -- PDebian, the producers of the Debian GNU/Linux system, have created the -strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The contract, initially designed +strongDebian Social Contract/strong. The a href=#guidelinesDebian Free Software +Guidelines (DFSG)/a part of the contract, initially designed as as a set of commitments that we agree to abide by, has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the a href=http://www.opensource.org/osd.html;Open Source Definition/a. @@ -71,7 +72,7 @@ lists) for non-free software packages. /OL HR -H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines/a/H2 +H2a name=guidelinesThe Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)/a/H2 OL LIPstrongFree Redistribution/strong PThe license of a Debian component may not restrict any -- see shy jo
Re: [Adam Di Carlo adam@onshore.com] [RFC] DDP and www.debian.org merger
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 09:16:05PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: a) move the DDP's wml file to the directory devel/ddp That's doc/ddp, BTW. Adam's proposal suggested devel/ddp IIRC, for a way to have both unstable and stable documentation adn doc/ for only finished (i.e. stable) documentation. Yes, that was the original idea, however, he told me later it would be easier to just do a make publish into the same directory, and organize the links from the web pages so that they differentiate finished and non-finished stuff. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: problem with the distrib/ftlist.wml page
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 02:54:02PM +, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: Hi all, I have a problem translating the page distrib/ftplist.wml that appear to create a list without labels. The problem is probably that english/distrib/ftplist.data is referring to the function wml::debian::countries that I missed. Where should I find this macro to translate it? All the template files are in english/template/debian . The file you are looking for is countries.wml . Since countries.wml already contains all (at least most) of the needed translations. This leads me to believe that something else is wrong. Could you give the error message you received? -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem in the CVSweb script
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 07:47:34PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: There seems to be a problem with cvs.debian.org, specifically with the cvsweb script. If I try to get any sources., for example: http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/Bugs/Access.wml?rev=1.6cvsroot=webwml For those not in the know, this is a known problem and has been discussed on debian-admin. My idea is that the www-data daemon does not have permissions to read/write in the cvs directory. It maybe strange, but even if you're only reading you need r/w access to the repository. This could be fixed in two ways: - (simplest but not best) give the www daemon r/w access to the cvs Not best because of security concerns. - (most complicated but best) make cvsweb.conf use a pserver access (as anonymous no r/w access is needed IIRC). The problem is that no one has taken responsibility for seeing this through. Until someone volunteers to do so, we will continue in this state of limbo. BTW, I don't believe anyone has approached upstream about this problem. Perhaps they can suggest or implement a solution for us. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem in the CVSweb script
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: - (most complicated but best) make cvsweb.conf use a pserver access (as anonymous no r/w access is needed IIRC). Is this even possible? No, it's not. cvsweb accesses the repository directly. The proper solution is to make a separate directory for cvs lockfiles, and give www-data write access to that, plus either give www-data write access to CVSROOT/history or delete the file. -- see shy jo