Re: Dealing better with CD releases

2009-04-15 Thread Luk Claes
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 At the moment we have problems when we do releases including new
 CD/DVD images, as you'll see from mailing list complaints about broken
 links each time. Simon Paillard and I had some discussion about this
 today on #debian-www and I've come up with a workflow that will
 improve things, I think (see 2c below). Please feel free to point out
 what I've missed... :-)
 
 1. The Problem
 
 We generate new CDs and DVDs for each point release. These are
 published in the release area of cdimage.debian.org[1]. The image
 filenames and the top-level directory are versioned for clarity, and
 we add a current symlink in the debian-cd directory that points to
^^^
 the most recent version. We move old trees of images into the archive
 area[2] as each new build is published, We then prune most of the old
 ISO images so we don't waste too much space - older images can be
 recreated in the future using jigdo if necessary.

d. Other ideas?

Can't we link to the 'current' images on the webpages?

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Dealing better with CD releases

2009-04-15 Thread Luk Claes
Steve McIntyre wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 07:14:52PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
 Steve McIntyre wrote:
 Hi folks,

 At the moment we have problems when we do releases including new
 CD/DVD images, as you'll see from mailing list complaints about broken
 links each time. Simon Paillard and I had some discussion about this
 today on #debian-www and I've come up with a workflow that will
 improve things, I think (see 2c below). Please feel free to point out
 what I've missed... :-)

 1. The Problem

 We generate new CDs and DVDs for each point release. These are
 published in the release area of cdimage.debian.org[1]. The image
 filenames and the top-level directory are versioned for clarity, and
 we add a current symlink in the debian-cd directory that points to
^^^
 the most recent version. We move old trees of images into the archive
 area[2] as each new build is published, We then prune most of the old
 ISO images so we don't waste too much space - older images can be
 recreated in the future using jigdo if necessary.
d. Other ideas?
 Can't we link to the 'current' images on the webpages?
 
 We do, but the image names themselves change from one release to the
 next too.

Well then it should probably use an existing tag (like
current_release_lenny which contains '5.0.1') that needs to be updated
for the point release anyway IMHO. Someone added 3 extra tags which is
not very maintainable IMHO.

Note that it's easy to convert 5.0.1 to 501 in eperl...

Cheers

Luk


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Re: english/News/2009/20090408.wml (oldstable update news)

2009-04-13 Thread Luk Claes
Hideki Yamane wrote:
 Hi,
 
  I saw oldstable update release news, but it seems to need some 
  corrections for that. I made a patch, please review to apply it.

Made another s/stable/oldstable/ and did not remove the part about
oldstable-proposed-updates.

Commited the rest together with updates of
template/debian/release_info.wml and releases/etch/errata.wml (same for
lenny)

Cheers

Luk


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Re: contributors.debian.org (aka a home for contributors)?

2009-04-11 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Currently, the wiki has a lot of wiki-user homepages. There are two
 issues related to those wiki pages:
 
 1. Wiki pages and homepages share the main namespace which cause false
positive in search results... (yes some user choose some ambiguous
names like root, Aim, DebianLiveUser, Mac, netbug)

Could be solved by communicating a clear namespace policy IMHO.

 2. Putting personal data under an open source license sounds weird.
Allowing to modify and redistribute those data is... not something
we want. (We discovered this issue as we were preparing the
re-licensing of the wiki).

The license is one thing, there is still copyright: mention origin, no
misrepresentation, etc. So having an open source license for personal
data might not be a good idea, though it's not a call for abuse of the data.

 The initial plan was to simply move those pages to wiki.d.org/User/ and
 leave those pages copyrighted to their owners. However there is an
 alternative:
 
 What about moving those homepages to something like:
http://contibutors.debian.org  ??

Any reason why it could not go to debian-community.org if it's not
welcome on wiki.debian.org?

 Pros:
 * Every Debian contributor would have an (easy) to edit a homepage.
   (Raphael Hertzog mentioned that DM/NM might experiment using wiki
   homepage so applicant list their contributions)

This would certainly be ok on debian-community.org IMHO

 * It is possible to write a macro to generate a Portfolio[1]

Only needs someone to do it :-)

 * The wiki could be used as a weak openid provider for other services.
   (esp. for users that don't have alioth account yet).

Could be considered.

 Cons:
 * What about debian-community.org? Do we integrate some of the services
   together, etc..

I think it should be merged together.

Personally I don't mind if that would mean renaming debian-community.org
or just integrating these ideas over there.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Mistake on http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/errata.en.html

2009-03-21 Thread Luk Claes
Matt Kraai wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 08:10:04PM +0100, Holger Mickler wrote:
 there is a mistake on the above mentioned html page (at least for the 
 english and german ones).

 Under Point releases it reads:

 ---
 If you use APT to update your packages, you can install the proposed 
 updates by adding the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list:

   # proposed additions for a 5.0 point release
   deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian proposed-updates main contrib non-free
 ---

 The entry for the debian archive is wrong, it has to be

 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny-proposed-updates main contrib 
 non-free

 (lenny- was missing)
 
 Thanks for reporting this.  I've changed the source code and the
 website should be updated within a few hours.

Note that nothing was wrong. lenny-proposed-updates is (currently) a
symlink to proposed-updates. Changing it this way means we have to
update it every release which was not needed before...

Cheers

Luk


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Re: South African Debian mirror

2009-03-10 Thread Luk Claes
Christof Rademeyer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am unsure id I'm sending this to the correct person, but here goes:

I guess you need the mirror admins (in Cc).

 The South African Debian mirror (http://www.za.debian.org) does not
 seem to be hosted within South Africa! We are VERY limited with the
 amount of data we can receive/transmit internationally, so I feel
 (very strongly) that a South African mirror should be located within
 South Africa.

Cheers

Luk


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Bug#516168: /volatile/index.wml to be updated with Lenny

2009-02-23 Thread Luk Claes
Simon Paillard wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:15:16PM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote:
 tags 516168 patch
 thanks

 Attached a patch against /webwml/english/volatile/index.wml , I don't
 have the www cvs tree right now so I can't test the correctness.
 
 #use wml::debian::release_info includes the following variables : 
 current_release_name
 current_testing_name
 current_oldstable_name
 
 The attached diff against the proposed diff use this method, so that
 it's no longer necessary to update the page at each new major release
 
 If volatile team is happy with that, that will be committed to the CVS
 (using smartchanges.pl if possible to avoid useless much work for
 translators).

Yes, we're happy with that, please commit this change, TIA.

Cheers

Luk



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Re: Uncoordinated change in lenny D-I page

2009-02-15 Thread Luk Claes
Frans Pop wrote:
 I just noticed the following change in the website:
 
 ! Revision 1.10 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs] 
 !  Sun Feb 15 11:40:13 2009 UTC (4 hours, 24 minutes ago) by spaillar 
 ! Switch the place of CD/DVD ISO and bittorrent, so that bittorrent is first 
 in the list
 
 
 Is there any reason why this change was not first discussed with the
 D-I and debian-cd teams?

Because it's due to a mirror issue and is only cosmetical, no?

Cheers

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Re: Uncoordinated change in lenny D-I page

2009-02-15 Thread Luk Claes
Frans Pop wrote:
 Luk Claes wrote:
 Frans Pop wrote:
 Is there any reason why this change was not first discussed with the
 D-I and debian-cd teams?
 Because it's due to a mirror issue
 
 How does that mean that the change should not be discussed with the teams 
 who've created and do most of the maintenance of the page?
 
 and is only cosmetical, no? 
 
 No. If it's only cosmetic there's no reason to change it at all.

Only cosmetical to the D-I and debian-cd teams, not to the mirror team
of course.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: release notes building time ...

2009-02-10 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
  I've noticed the same thing several times, and it hangs in that state
 for quite a bit. The question is: Why does it (need to) query external
 websites?
 
 It's probably downloading DTD. xsltproc has this option:
--nonet
Do not use the Internet to fetch DTDs, entities or documents.
 
 Having DTD installed locally and the proper header should also avoid the need
 for the network IIRC.

Please request debian-ad...@l.d.o the right package to be installed, TIA.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: CfH: Some issues regarding the lenny release notes

2009-02-02 Thread Luk Claes
W. Martin Borgert wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I like to ask for opinions/help/contribution regarding the lenny
 release notes:
 
 0. credits
 1. too many bug reports open, missing tests, deadlines
 2. hyphenation with dblatex
 3. size of PDFs with xmlroff on etch
 4. compilation time with dblatex on etch

 1. Too many bug reports open, missing tests, deadlines

That's the reason why I got the last sentence(s) added to the latest
release update. Unfortunately I'm busy with other stuff...

 3. Size of PDFs with xmlroff on etch
 
When you build the lenny release notes on etch, even with
the xmlroff backport from lenny, I got Huge PDFs for some
languages. I assume, that we need a backport of libcairo2 to
get reasonable sized PDFs or just build on a lenny machine.
The PDF for ml is 69× bigger when build on etch, zh_CN still
6.7× bigger! We need to fix this or change the Makefile:
 
-DISABLED_PDF=
+DISABLED_PDF=cs ja ml pl ro ru vi zh_CN zh_TW
 
Anybody up for libcairo2 backport to etch?

I uploaded a backport yesterday after coordination with the maintainers,
please check out if it's ok and we can ask to install it on www-master.

 4. Compilation time with dblatex on etch
 
When you build the lenny release notes on etch, even with
the dblatex backport from lenny, I experienced that it
compiles 6.5× times slower than the same version on lenny.
Is it my broken etch setup? Is it the older Python? Another
reason to build on lenny, if it were possible...

I asked DSA and unfortunately it won't be possible to upgrade www-master
before the release. So either things work out with backports or we have
to figure out some other solution.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Please install dblatex and xmlroff on www.debian.org

2008-11-23 Thread Luk Claes
W. Martin Borgert wrote:
 Hi maintainers of www.debian.org,
 
 please install dblatex 0.2.9-3~bpo40+1 and xmlroff
 0.6.0-1.1~bpo40+1 from backports.org. We need those versions for
 the lenny release notes. Other documentation will - maybe -
 benefit as well. Thanks in advance!

xmlroff is still building AFAIK, buildd maintainer in Cc.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Bugs/index

2008-08-15 Thread Luk Claes

Nicolas Bertolissio wrote:

Le vendredi 15 août 2008, Don Armstrong écrivit :

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Nicolas Bertolissio wrote:

Le jeudi 14 août 2008, Don Armstrong écrivit :

The select bugs fields are the search fields. It's probably
suboptimal as far as documenting goes, so suggestions for
improvements are solicited.

But there is only one select bugs, so I still don't understand what is
ORed or ANded.

If you add one, and press return, there is suddenly more than one.


I've tested it, that's a very nice fonction! Maybe some more explanation
on the way it works is needed.


Like Don explained in his talk/BOF about the BTS, this certainly need 
better documentation. Feel free to work on that as it would benefit a 
lot of people! :-)


Cheers

Luk


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Re: Bug#489298: Old testing_probs pages missing

2008-07-04 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 Package: ftp.debian.org
 
 Hi, the following links (as given on
 http://www.debian.org/devel/testing) are dead:
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/testing_probs.html
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/unstable_probs.html
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/stable_probs.html
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/unstable_outdate.txt
 
 Should we remove these links or will they be available again in the
 future?

You should remove these links, they might become available again, but
probably won't. qa.debian.org/debcheck.php should have comparable data
btw...

Closing this bug.

Cheers

Luk

 - Forwarded message from Kalle Söderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 
 From: Kalle Söderman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-www@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Broken links on the Testing page
 
 Hi,
 I noticed that the list of links under Additional Information on the
 http://www.debian.org/devel/testing page are broken.
 
 The server returns Not Found and the files related to problems with the three
 distributions are not on http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ as the
 links suggest.
 
 regards
 Kalle
 
 - End forwarded message -
 
 Gruesse,


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Bug#468765: Is oldstable security support duration something to be proud of?

2008-03-10 Thread Luk Claes
Filipus Klutiero wrote:
 Hi,
 I reported #468765 about a questionable statement on www.debian.org. Frank 
 Lichtenheld wants this to be discussed.
 
 This statement is in a security announcement. Martin Schulze confirmed that 
 he 
 wrote the statement. Does the security team think that oldstable security 
 support duration is something to be proud of?
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=468765

Why would anyone question if a security support of at *least* 2,5 years
by volunteers not be something to be proud of?

If people think the duration of the security support is more important
than the quality of the support, then that question could indeed be
considered...

Cheers

Luk



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Re: DPL vote update 1.0

2008-03-09 Thread Luk Claes
Neil McGovern wrote:
 Hi all,

Hi Neil

 Can someone apply the attached patch to the webwml source please?
 There may be a couple of others to follow until Manoj returns :)

Added.

Cheers

Luk


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Bug#468765: security support termination announcements are too proud

2008-03-01 Thread Luk Claes
Filipus Klutiero wrote:
 Le March 1, 2008 04:03:28 am Frank Lichtenheld, vous avez écrit :
 On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 03:47:27AM -0500, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
 Since Red Hat releases at least each 3 years, that means Red Hat commits
 to supporting its oldstables for at least 4 years, which is much more
 than 1 year.

 IMO, more than 4 years is too much. But comparing to that, it's hard to
 be proud of under 1 year. IMO it's OK, but not more.
 Comparing a commercial distro with expensive support contracts and a
 community distro doesn't make sense at all...
 Perhaps, but then what about openSUSE (about 1.5 years), Ubuntu (1 year), 
 Ubuntu LTS (4.5 years) and CentOS (more than 4 years)? I can't compare with 
 Gentoo, and then we get to Slackware (which I don't know about). So in 
 general, Debian is worst than others.
 Either way, I don't think that debian-www is the right place to discuss
 this. I would suggest debian-project or debian-publicity.
 
 I'm convinced that there's no reason to be proud, so I see no need to discuss 
 it, unless you're confident that Debian should be proud. It can be removed 
 anyway on the grounds that our users don't need to know whether the project 
 is proud.

Can you please stop the fud, Debian releases have security support till
one year *after the next release*, which is at least 2.5 years and not
just 1 as you seem to imply...

Cheers

Luk



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Re: Old information at http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/errata

2008-02-07 Thread Luk Claes
Jens Seidel wrote:
 Hi ftpmasters,
 
 Can you tell us where the woody-proposed-updates can be found? Did you
 forgot to create these?

Do you realise that woody is not supported anymore for some years and
that woody-proposed-updates probably never existed? Maybe there was
already a stable-proposed-updates though...

Cheers

Luk

 For your reference:
 
 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:38:51AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 06.02.2008, 14:15 +0100 schrieb Jens Seidel:
 Ralph probably forgot a apt-get update but nevertheless the following
 APT source does no longer exist:

 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US proposed-updates/non-US main 
 contrib non-free

 Does anyone know a mirror for Woody and other (older?) systems?
  As archive.debian.org lives in US TTBOMK it doesn't carry the non-US
 part, and I'm not aware of any archive-non-US host ...

 But this exists:
 #v+
 deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody-proposed-updates/non-US 
 main contrib non-free
 #v-

  I guess non-us.d.o itself is the archive for the non-us parts anyway.

 Also the usage of
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian proposed-updates main contrib non-free
 in hour site is bad as it refers now probably to Etch whereas it referred
 in the past to Woody. We should use code names instead.
  Indeed - unfortunately I don't see any woody-proposed-updates on
 archive.debian.org? Were there none when woody got moved to the archive?
 I would guess even then it would be a good idea to have (empty) files
 there -- on the other hand people have to edit their sources.list anyway
 to use the archive.

 Where are currently proposed updates for Woody?
  There are none.

 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/ lists sarge-proposed-updates/,
 etch-proposed-updates/, lenny-proposed-updates/, oldstable-proposed-updates/
 but no woody-proposed-updates/ or oldoldstable-proposed-updates/ :-)
  Because woody got removed from the mirrors and moved to the archive.

 Even http://archive.debian.org/dists/ misses woody-proposed-updates/ but
 provides {hamm,potato,slink}-proposed-updates.
  See above about my guessings along that lines.

 Would it make sense to update some links to old releases to point to
 http://archive.debian.org/? Probably not ...
 Oops, Ralph convinced me that it is important to update even old release
 pages as Woody may still be used in production (even I have still such a
 old system).
  And it had been done in the past, see e.g. potato pages.

 I will try to update the pages but need at least woody-proposed-updates ...
  You don't need them. If it was empty it gains nothing to list it, but
 if it wasn't (which I have no idea about - propably the people doing the
 move to the archive know?) it should get fixed.

  So long,
 Rhonda
 
 
 


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Re: Processed: reassign

2008-01-23 Thread Luk Claes
Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
 Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 reassign 461968 www.debian.org
 Bug#461968: security.debian.org: http://www.debian.org/security/ is no longer 
 being updated
 Bug reassigned from package `security.debian.org' to `www.debian.org'.
 
 retitle 461968 Web security advisories should be maintained by the Web Team
 Bug#461968: security.debian.org: http://www.debian.org/security/ is no longer 
 being updated
 Changed Bug title to `Web security advisories should be maintained by the Web 
 Team' from `security.debian.org: http://www.debian.org/security/ is no longer 
 being updated'.

Shouldn't this go automatically instead of manually by someone with
webwml access?

Cheers

Luk


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Re: DebianPackagesetchBase Section

2008-01-18 Thread Luk Claes
Paul wrote:
 There is only 1 file in this section (zd1211-firmware(2.16.0-0.1)[non-free].

That's an error it should not contain any file...

Cheers

Luk


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Bug#457995: new update/revision announcement pages confusing about aptitude/apt

2007-12-27 Thread Luk Claes
Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Le December 27, 2007 03:12:22 pm Jose Luis Rivas Contreras, vous avez écrit :
 Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 Severity: minor

 As its predecessor, http://www.us.debian.org/News/2007/20071227 contains

 Upgrading to this revision online is usually done by pointing the
 aptitude (or apt) package tool (see the sources.list(5) manual page) to
 one of Debian's many FTP or HTTP mirrors.

 This can confuse readers about what apt and aptitude are, suggesting that
 one can use one or the other. This should probably read by pointing the
 Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) (see the sources.list(5) manual page) to
 [...].
 You can use one or the other, depending on which one you prefer to use.

 Actually, you have to use APT, since aptitude uses APT. The problem is 
 precisely that the announcement suggests that aptitude does not use APT, 
 which is already a common misconception.

No, aptitude uses libapt... For an enduser he can choose whatever
package manager to use, though we recommend aptitude (or apt).

Cheers

Luk




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Bug#457995: new update/revision announcement pages confusing about aptitude/apt

2007-12-27 Thread Luk Claes
Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Le December 27, 2007 03:26:11 pm Luk Claes, vous avez écrit :
 Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Le December 27, 2007 03:12:22 pm Jose Luis Rivas Contreras, vous avez 
 écrit :
 Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 Severity: minor

 As its predecessor, http://www.us.debian.org/News/2007/20071227
 contains

 Upgrading to this revision online is usually done by pointing the
 aptitude (or apt) package tool (see the sources.list(5) manual page) to
 one of Debian's many FTP or HTTP mirrors.

 This can confuse readers about what apt and aptitude are, suggesting
 that one can use one or the other. This should probably read by
 pointing the Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) (see the sources.list(5)
 manual page) to [...].
 You can use one or the other, depending on which one you prefer to use.
 Actually, you have to use APT, since aptitude uses APT. The problem is
 precisely that the announcement suggests that aptitude does not use APT,
 which is already a common misconception.
 No, aptitude uses libapt... For an enduser he can choose whatever
 package manager to use, though we recommend aptitude (or apt).
 I guess I have not been clear enough about the problem.
 The announcement says this:
 You can use A or B.
 B being a library used by A, users have to use B anyway, the only choice is 
 to 
 use A or not. Actually, the choice is which APT front-end to use.
 
 It could also be changed to pointing your favorite package manager (such as 
 aptitude and Synaptic) to [...] though in reality, you're pointing APT to a 
 source, and you're only pointing your package manager to a source indirectly.
 
 The current sentence is a bit like saying that you can use Debian or Linux to 
 replace Windows.

No, it's not, apt is a package manager, it's libapt that is a library.
Sorry, but you're wrong.

Cheers

Luk



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Bug#457995: new update/revision announcement pages confusing about aptitude/apt

2007-12-27 Thread Luk Claes
Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Le December 27, 2007 03:47:40 pm Luk Claes, vous avez écrit :
 Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Le December 27, 2007 03:26:11 pm Luk Claes, vous avez écrit :
 Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Le December 27, 2007 03:12:22 pm Jose Luis Rivas Contreras, vous avez
 écrit :
 Philippe Cloutier wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 Severity: minor

 As its predecessor, http://www.us.debian.org/News/2007/20071227
 contains

 Upgrading to this revision online is usually done by pointing the
 aptitude (or apt) package tool (see the sources.list(5) manual page)
 to one of Debian's many FTP or HTTP mirrors.

 This can confuse readers about what apt and aptitude are, suggesting
 that one can use one or the other. This should probably read by
 pointing the Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) (see the sources.list(5)
 manual page) to [...].
 You can use one or the other, depending on which one you prefer to
 use.
 Actually, you have to use APT, since aptitude uses APT. The problem is
 precisely that the announcement suggests that aptitude does not use
 APT, which is already a common misconception.
 No, aptitude uses libapt... For an enduser he can choose whatever
 package manager to use, though we recommend aptitude (or apt).
 I guess I have not been clear enough about the problem.
 The announcement says this:
 You can use A or B.
 B being a library used by A, users have to use B anyway, the only choice
 is to use A or not. Actually, the choice is which APT front-end to use.

 It could also be changed to pointing your favorite package manager (such
 as aptitude and Synaptic) to [...] though in reality, you're pointing
 APT to a source, and you're only pointing your package manager to a
 source indirectly.

 The current sentence is a bit like saying that you can use Debian or
 Linux to replace Windows.
 No, it's not, apt is a package manager, it's libapt that is a library.
 
 Quoting English Wikipedia:
 APT is a C++ library of functions (known as libapt) which are used by
 front-end programs for dealing with packages [...]
 
 As you can see, APT can be considered as libapt. apt can also be considered 
 as 
 the apt package, but it still contains libapt, so apt either is or contains 
 libapt. Therefore, suggesting that one can use aptitude without using apt is 
 misleading.

Last time: For *end users* apt is a package manager. We recommend to use
aptitude or apt as package manager to upgrade...

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Re: GPG Request - Add place date selector

2007-11-19 Thread Luk Claes
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 On 01-11-2007 07:54, Clifford W. Hansen wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 Hi Clifford,
 
 
 When adding a place to my GPG info, I only have the option of choosing this 
 year or last year, and I think this needs to be extended to at least two 
 years in the future.

It's extended to forever which you can easily change whenever it changes...

The option of this year is for something that doesn't last long like a
conference, it's not meant to be a calendar application...

Cheers

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Re: Mentioning proposed-updates on the main website

2007-11-05 Thread Luk Claes

Josip Rodin wrote:

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 07:50:43AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:

I just committed that new page to CVS, please feel free to... embrace
and extend :)

[...]
It only demonstrates why finally documenting this can be very helpfull :-)

Thank you very much for starting the page!

Um, you are aware that all I did was copypaste one standard header line
and a bit of HTML-formatted content into a file with the extension .wml,
and then cvs add  cvs commit that? :)

So where is the wrong content you copied from, what's the URL?


I interpolated that from security/faq and releases/etch/errata


Ok, though there are no errors in these, but I understand how the 
misinterpretation could happen :-)


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Re: Mentioning proposed-updates on the main website

2007-11-04 Thread Luk Claes
Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:57:13PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:13:19PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
 As you may (or may not) know proposed-updates is used as a basis for the 
 next point release. As such it would be good that people would use it 
 more so we find most bugs *before* a point release. To make this happen 
 I want to mention proposed-updates more visibly on the main website. 
 Does anyone have good ideas how and where on the website I should 
 mention proposed-updates (and oldstable-proposed-updates and maybe the 
 process involved)?
 /releases/stable/errata actually includes some information about
 that, but I'm not sure where else. Maybe we need a new page called
 /releases/proposed-updates that explains the concept better, and
 then link that one from other places?
 
 I just committed that new page to CVS, please feel free to... embrace
 and extend :)

And correct apparantly :-(

Uploading will only work when targeting 'stable', 'stable-security' or
'proposed-updates' for proposed-updates and targeting 'oldstable',
'oldstable-security' or 'oldstable-proposed-updates'. Mentioning
etch-proposed-updates, stable-proposed-updates or similar as a target
won't work...

After the upload the packages reach a NEW queue like system and when
members of the Stable Release Team have accepted packages to migrate to
proposed-updates these packages will very likely be included in the next
point release...

It only demonstrates why finally documenting this can be very helpfull :-)

I'll also add a part about uploading best practices...

Thank you very much for starting the page!

Cheers

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Re: Debian consultants

2007-10-27 Thread Luk Claes
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
 On 14-10-2007 17:44, Thomas Huriaux wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Jan Prunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] (04/10/2007):
 I am wondering if anyone is still updating the page for Debian consultants ?
 The last update was made in August, and I don't know if the new
 submissions for consultants were properly received ?
 No, it's no longer updated. I no longer have the time and motivation to
 process the requests, and it seems to be the same for everybody else in
 the team.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated (and is really needed).
 
   How much we are talking about?  Dozens of entries per day/
 week/month?  Is it just adding web pages? There are other tasks?
 Can we post a message recruiting people and training them?

It depends on how actively they are processed: from a couple per month
to a couple per day.

It's just adding, changing or removing entries and their respective
'more info' page.

Before adding the info is checked to be following the DMUP, being a real
*Debian* consultant, being consistent and a minimum of contact info
should be available.

Before changing an entry, it's checked that the info is consistent (with
other info for instance from the website) and being asked by the
consultant themself or by someone who can know the consultant's situation.

Removing an entry is done when the minimum contact info is not available
anymore or when the consultant asks to be removed.

All interaction for requests is handled by [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers

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Re: Mentioning proposed-updates on the main website

2007-10-25 Thread Luk Claes

Kobayashi Noritada wrote:

Hi,

From: Josip Rodin
Subject: Re: Mentioning proposed-updates on the main website
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:57:13 +0200


On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:13:19PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
As you may (or may not) know proposed-updates is used as a basis for the 
next point release. As such it would be good that people would use it 
more so we find most bugs *before* a point release. To make this happen 
I want to mention proposed-updates more visibly on the main website. 
Does anyone have good ideas how and where on the website I should 
mention proposed-updates (and oldstable-proposed-updates and maybe the 
process involved)?

/releases/stable/errata actually includes some information about
that, but I'm not sure where else. Maybe we need a new page called
/releases/proposed-updates that explains the concept better, and
then link that one from other places?


FYI http://www.debian.org/security/faq#proposed-updates currently
explains that.  Also,


It only explains it very briefly and only to illustrate the connection 
with the security archive...



http://ftp-master.debian.org/proposed-updates.html shows the status.

I worry about the status of the proposed updates.  Those packages are
not always released; only packages accepted by the Stable Release
Manager are released and other packages will be dropped.  So, IMHO
those packages should not be recommended, unlike security updates.
Enough explanation will be required.


Wrong. The status shows what's in the p-u-new queue. All that is 
accepted is in proposed-updates and gets released in the next point 
release...


One more reason to have proper documentation...

Cheers

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Mentioning proposed-updates on the main website

2007-10-23 Thread Luk Claes

Hi

As you may (or may not) know proposed-updates is used as a basis for the 
next point release. As such it would be good that people would use it 
more so we find most bugs *before* a point release. To make this happen 
I want to mention proposed-updates more visibly on the main website. 
Does anyone have good ideas how and where on the website I should 
mention proposed-updates (and oldstable-proposed-updates and maybe the 
process involved)?


Cheers

Luk


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Bug#440631: [Fwd: Bug#440631: /volatile/volatile-mirrors: There's no country called Swiss]

2007-09-03 Thread Luk Claes

Hi

Can someone please fix this in Mirrors.masterlist and close this bug 
when it's fixed?


Cheers

Luk
---BeginMessage---
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: minor

Hi, I just had a look at http://www.debian.org/volatile/volatile-mirrors
and noticed that there is everywhere the TLD and the name of the
country. Swiss is _no_ name of a country, it's an adjective to
describe something coming from _Switzerland_. Please fix that even if
it isn't really so important. :)

Regards and thanks,

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Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash


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Re: make problem

2007-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
Josip Rodin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 So I go about running check_trans.pl for Croatian... and update
 partners/index.wml, and then:
 

 Then I tried another file, but that gave something more useful:
 
 % make contact.hr.html   
 make: *** No rule to make target `../locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/others.mo', needed 
 by `contact.hr.html'.  Stop.
 
 What am I missing?

Not sure, but if you first do 'make -C ./po', I think it will work.

Cheers

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Re: make problem

2007-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:25:50PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
 What am I missing?
 Not sure, but if you first do 'make -C ./po', I think it will work.
 
 Oh. It would make sense if this was somehow included in the dependencies,
 surely?

It is, but I'm not sure if it works for individual files.

Cheers

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Split of volatile webpages complete: please test/comment

2007-04-22 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

The split of the volatile webpages is comitted into the www.d.o repository.

Please test if everything is working correctly and don't be afraid to send
comments to the appropriate list or in private.

Cheers

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Re: Split of volatile webpages complete: please test/comment

2007-04-22 Thread Luk Claes
Jens Seidel wrote:
 Hi Luk,
 
 On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 04:31:39PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
 The split of the volatile webpages is comitted into the www.d.o repository.
 
 it was hard work to move the translations but I think I finished it (at
 least for German and partially for French and Italian). Luk, please
 always commit different patches separatly. I noticed that you moved
 files from devel/debian-volatile/ to volatile/ *and* changed the content
 at the same time! This makes moving translations much harder, because
 these need to be moved *and* synchronised at the same time ... If a
 translator misses the fact that volatile/ contains moved file the
 translator could redone the work!

That's one of the reasons the split was announced on the list, so translators
could see that they don't have to start over. Only moving the translation is
not enough as the translation headers don't match anyway, though it had indeed
been better to commit after moving them and before changing them.

 Please also note that a few scripts such as mirror-volatile.sh need to
 be installed otherwise there will be broken links. Maybe it's sufficient
 to just add a new local install:: target ...

Right, everything that should be on the website should be installed... I have
updated the Makefile accordingly.

 You also protect email addresses in volatile/team. I think this is not
 necessary as the corresponding mailto: in the source is not rewritten.
 I suggest to use clear addresses. Aren't these already available all
 over the net?

Well that's a minor issue IMHO and should be asked to the mentioned people
before changing it anyway...

Cheers

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Split Debian Volatile pages in a part for developers and a part for users

2007-04-10 Thread Luk Claes
Hi

For Debian Volatile we want to split the pages in a part for developers
(devel/debian-volatile) and a part for users on another URL. We thought about
www.d.o/volatile, though we wanted first to be sure that this won't be a 
problem.

Maybe someone has a better idea or would the proposed solution be acceptable?

Cheers

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wrong version name and wrong main URL?]

2007-04-09 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 - Forwarded message from Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 
 From: Marc Fargas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-www@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Wrong version name and wrong main URL?
 X-Mailing-List: debian-www@lists.debian.org archive/latest/27313
 
 Hi,
 According to the Etch release notes on:
 http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-volatileVolatile
 is now officially supported and the same notes say that it's now 
 volatile.debian.org and that you should update your sources.list but
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-volatile/index.en.html says it's 
 volatile.debian.net. Shouldn't it say volatile.debian.org? Maybe .net
 should also do a redirect to .org to make things clear ;)
 
 Also the same page (
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-volatile/index.en.html) states: as well
 as the upgrade to the next stable release (etch). Hey! the next stable
 release is not etch!! :))

devel/debian-volatile is updated accordingly, should be visible within a
couple of hours.

Cheers

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Re: Out of date upgrade-reports page

2007-02-15 Thread Luk Claes
Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 (resurrecting this thread...)
 
 On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 06:33:14PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
 A Google search for debian upgrade reports (no quotes) returns a page
 [0] that is out of date since it is a template for a woody - sarge
 -- [0] is  http://release.debian.org/upgrade-report.html

 ...
 That being said, attached is a patch to the current upgrade-report.html page
 to add additional information (and do not make it depend on a specific 
 Debian
 release). I think it's worthwhile mentioning that the user's should use
 script if they want to provide accurate information (the Release Notes
 already say this, but stressing this here too might lead to more useful bug
 reports)
 Patch committed.
 
 The page still contains at least two references to woody. See attached
 proposed patch.

I removed the references to woody, I'm not convinced about the other proposed
changes, so didn't apply them.

 Is that page intended to be used as a template while etch is still
 testing, or after the etch release when people are upgrading from
 oldstable to stable?  If the latter, then it should also be updated to
 refer to the latest stable release notes, rather than
 http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes  (I can see how
 one might argue that we no longer need the upgrade reports after etch
 is released, but I don't know that I agree.)

It's always possible to change the template after release ;-)

Cheers

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Re: Out of date upgrade-reports page

2007-01-07 Thread Luk Claes
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 10:48:52AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
 * Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061224 02:10]:
 A Google search for debian upgrade reports (no quotes) returns a page
 [0] that is out of date since it is a template for a woody - sarge
 
 -- [0] is  http://release.debian.org/upgrade-report.html
 
...
 That being said, attached is a patch to the current upgrade-report.html page
 to add additional information (and do not make it depend on a specific Debian
 release). I think it's worthwhile mentioning that the user's should use
 script if they want to provide accurate information (the Release Notes
 already say this, but stressing this here too might lead to more useful bug
 reports)

Patch committed.

Cheers

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Re: CVS access

2006-12-19 Thread Luk Claes

Peter Karlsson wrote:

Hi!

What is required for cvs access to the web pages nowadays? Do we
require a Debian account, or is pserver access available? I am
recruiting help with the Swedish translator, but the person who
responded to my little plea for help is not a Debian developer, so he
would need pserver access.


http://people.debian.org/~joey/misc/webwml.html

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Re: Commiting the French DWN 2006/28

2006-07-15 Thread Luk Claes
Frédéric Bothamy wrote:
 Hello,

Hi Fred

 I am the official translator for the French DWN and I cannot currently
 commit last week's DWN to the Debian CVS due to the recent problems
 (I use a pserver account to access the CVS repository).
 
 Could someone with write access to the CVS please commit the attached
 file for webwml/french/News/weekly/2006/28/index.wml with the
 following log message:
 
   Initial translation [Frédéric Bothamy, Mohammed Adnène Trojette]
   Proofreading [Max, Stephane Blondon, Jean-Luc Coulon]

Committed.

Cheers

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Re: Unable to delete entry from database for GPG information

2006-03-30 Thread Luk Claes
Benjamin Mesing wrote:
 Hello,

Hi

 after logging in for GPG key search/offers (nm.debian.org) there is an
 overview over my profile with a
 Remove yourself from the database.
 line at the bottom. However, hitting this link (directing to
 gpguserdel.php) results in:
 Parse error: parse error, unexpected '=' in 
 /org/nm.debian.org/web/gpguserdel.php on line 123

This seems to be a temporary error, anyway I've removed you from the
database...

Please follow up to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for individual requests or
to debian-newmaint@lists.debian.org for possible issues with the php
scripts.

Cheers

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Re: Slovene translation

2006-02-03 Thread Luk Claes
Jan Prunk wrote:
 Hello !

Hi

 It looks like that nobody cares to activate slovene translation, I
 have been trying to get access to the website, for longer than 2
 months, to start with the work.
 This is really not the way to handle new maintainers...

Why didn't you send patches (translations) to the mailing list already?

Did you answer to joey in private as he asked you to do, so he could
create your account?

Cheers

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Re: Armenian translation

2005-12-28 Thread Luk Claes
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Vardan Gevorgyan wrote:
 Hello

Hi

 Please anyone help with cvs account.
 I'm the coordinator of armenian language.
 But I haven't cvs pserver account.
 What to do for that?

Please have a look at http://people.debian.org/~joey/misc/webwml.html
which is linked to on
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs#write-access

Cheers

Luk

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Re: help fixing XHTML pages

2005-08-22 Thread Luk Claes
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Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
 On 2005-08-21T20:02:59+0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
What I want to do is convert xhtml pages on
www.debian.org to XHTML 1.0 Strict. The thing is that debian.org
uses a tool called WML to generate the web pages. I need help in
learning how to do this. I've downloaded the web site to my local
machine, and I've read http://www.debian.org/devel/website/ and its
links.
 
 
 Did you build already some pages, e.g.
 
 cvs co .../english
 cd english; make
 
 And then look some of the generated pages with your $BROWSER and also
 probably some kind of (X)HTML validator?
 
 
I just would like someone to show me, step by step, how to convert a
wml page to an xhtml page. Could someone help me do this?
 
 
 I'm don't know exactly what it needs to be valid XHTML, but if you
 look at the .wml files, there is header such as
 
 #use wml::debian::something
 
 These files called templates you will find from
 webwml/english/template/debian directory. You probably need to adjust
 those files to use XHTML instead of what current HTML 4.01
 Transitional, and then go trough every page and check with XHTML
 validator that those are really valid XHTML.

I think it's the webwml/english/template/debian/base.wml file.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Installation Debian

2005-07-08 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 10:44:13AM +0200, David Martínez Moreno wrote:
 
El Jueves, 7 de Julio de 2005 23:25, Matt Kraai escribió:

Please add a comment to the English version asking translators to do
so.  Also, it might be helpful for translators to link to an email
address where people can report problems in their own language.

  Hello, Matt.

  Done. This is the diff:
 
 
 Does comment work in .pot files? Shouldn't this comment be added to the
 template instead so that xgettext can extract it?

To make sure the comment is still in the pot file if it is updated you
should indeed add the comment to the source file and let xgettext do the
work.

I have updated this in CVS.

Cheers

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Re: Translation inconsistency on http://www.debian.org/distrib/cd

2005-06-29 Thread Luk Claes
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Olaf van der Spek wrote:
 Hi,

Hi

 The Dutch version misses a li before option 3.

Well, apparantly it wasn't only a missing li, but it is fixed in CVS now.

Cheers

Luk
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Re: Sarge DVD ISO

2005-06-29 Thread Luk Claes
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Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 01:28:50PM +0200, Hansgeorg Schwibbe wrote:
 
the Sarge ISO images on 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-dvd/ are just 373 
MB and 127 MB, and the MD5 sums of the images do not match too.
 
 
 I see 4,4GB and 4,1GB there.

See the FAQ [1]: your version of wget doesn't have large file support,
either upgrade your wget or use curl.

Cheers

Luk

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Re: verbeterd introductiebericht sarge

2005-06-14 Thread Luk Claes
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Egbert-Jan Holleman wrote:

 Beste mensen,

Hi EJ

This is an English language mailing list as all Debian lists except
debian-l10n-* and debian-user-*.

I'll take care of this. It's a bugreport about the Dutch translation of
the release announcement.

Cheers

Luk

 De tekst van het persbericht over de release van sarge vind ik niet bepaald
 om over naar huis te schrijven. De zinnen zitten vol stijlfouten en de
 indeling van de tekst is onlogisch.

 Ik heb de tekst onder handen genomen en geprobeerd er wat beters van te
 maken. Kijk er eens naar zou ik zeggen, wellicht zou je de huidige tekst
 kunnen vervangen met deze.

 Overigens waardeer ik het zeer _dat_ er ook een nederlands persbericht
 gemaakt is.

Graag gedaan ;-)

 Mvg,
 EJ

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Re: Non-existent package listed on WNPP page

2005-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
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Hi Roberto

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 On the WNPP Orphaned Packages page [0], the package ubit is
 listed.  However, while the associated bug [1] exists, the
 package is not found [2].  The packages page for it says the
 package can't be found in any distribution.
 
 -Roberto
 
 [0] http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned.html
 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/279815
 [2] http://packages.debian.org/ubit

The source package is called ubit, but the binary packages are called
libubit1 and libubit-dev. You can find source packages via
http://packages.qa.debian.org (you can also enter binary packages, it
will redirect you to the package tracking system of the source package).

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
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Holger Levsen wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 severity: wishlist
 
 debian-edu and Skolelinux _afaik_ are names which have equal rights, but 
 http://www.debian.org/devel/ only mentions the Debian-Edu Project. This is 
 confusing and leads to less valuable search results.
 
 I've someone says go I can commit the change.

I understand your concern, but I think this entry shouldn't stand out
over the others. How would your patch look like?

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
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Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Luk,

Hi Holger

 On Friday 20 May 2005 16:06, Luk Claes wrote:
 
I understand your concern, but I think this entry shouldn't stand out
over the others. How would your patch look like?
 
 
 s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux Project/
 
 :-)
 
 I don't think that this patch would cause the entry to stand out over the 
 others. Do you ? IMO it would just become a little bit longer...

go! ;-)

 And, after all ( afaik), the projects name just isn't Debian-Edu anymore.

The mailing list obviously is still called that way as is the wiki page...

Cheers

Luk
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Re: WNPP reportbug description out-of-sync

2005-05-19 Thread Luk Claes
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Hi Roberto

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#1
 
 The current description of adding a bug against wnpp with
 reportbug states that you get four options (ITP, O, RFA, RFP).
 In fact, the fifth option, RFH, is now present in reportbug as
 well.  The page should be ammended.

The page is updated in CVS. After the next rebuild it should be fixed
online.

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#298755: Link to women.alioth.debian.org added

2005-05-18 Thread Luk Claes
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package www.debian.org
retitle 298755 Integrating [EMAIL PROTECTED] in www.debian.org?
thanks mate

I have added a link to http://women.alioth.debian.org in devel/index.wml
under Projects.

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#298755: www.debian.org: Unable to find [EMAIL PROTECTED] project

2005-05-08 Thread Luk Claes
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Michael Banck wrote:
 On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 12:56:55PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
 
I think a link under the Projects section is a first step. If we want
to integrate http://women.alioth.debian.org, the best place would be
http://w.d.o/devel/debian-women IMO.
 
 
 I think it would be better to have a www.debian.org/projects page where
 all the sub-projects (like doc, d-i, CDDs, ports etc.) are introduced
 with a small paragraph and a link to their page (wherever that may be).
 debian-women could be one of them.
 
 It is pretty non-intuitive to have all those projects listed under
 devel/.

Well, you're right, but I think the website will not be restructured
before Debconf5. So if we want to integrate it in the short run, I would
propose to list d-w under devel/.

Maybe djpig can comment?

Cheers

Luk
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Re: files with missing translation-check header

2005-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Thomas Huriaux wrote:
Hi,
Hi Thomas
The following files have a missing translation-check header.
I only don't know which is the original for consultants/produktivit.wml,
both german and english were commited at the same time.
[...]
/webwml/german/consultants/produktivit.wml (1.1) or
  webwml/english/consultants/produktivit.wml (translated from german 1.1)
I prefer the English one as original, because if a consultant asks to 
update their information I want to do it (at least) in the English version.

Cheers
Luk
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Re: How can I help?

2005-04-16 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Scott
Scott Mosier wrote:
I am a high school English teacher who does some HTML work as well,
and although I cannot run Debian on my main computer, I have usually
one or two that I can. What can I do to help?
I would advise you to read http://www.debian.org/devel/website for 
information on how to start or what to do.

Cheers
Luk
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Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by luk: webwml/english consultants/consultant.data tem ...

2005-03-10 Thread Luk Claes
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Peter Karlsson wrote:
| Debian WWW CVS:
|
| CVSROOT:/cvs/webwml
| Module name:webwml
| Changes by:luk05/03/10 10:25:00
|
| Modified files:
| english/consultants: consultant.data
| english/template/debian: countries.wml
|
|
| When adding strings to the templates, please remember to always update
| the files under english/po, so that it can be translated into other
| languages!
Ok, I thought that it was automaticly done when updating the website.
Cheers
Luk
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Re: Don't put 8bit characters into consultant.data!

2004-12-16 Thread Luk Claes

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Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
| Hi!

Hi Alfie

|  consultant.data is *not* meant to contain /any/ 8bit characters. There
| is no encoding defined for that file and it gets used in all the
| languages directly, ending up with b0rked characters on the webpages,
| especially in non-latin and utf8 environments (like japanese).

Sorry, I overlooked the 'accent circonflex' in the address of Ankeo.

|  I do appreciate your work on the consultant.data file, but pretty
| please keep in mind that you must put valid HTML entities for the 8bit
| characters you like to put in. I'm slightly annoyed by having to clean
| up there regularly

Regularly? You fixed 3 entries: 1 recent, 1 from July and 1 from May.
I'm only recently working on consultants ... and it is only the first
time you did this for consultants.data according the cvs logs.

You are right to complain and to keep remembering us to use valid HTML
entities, but please try to be gentle.

Cheers

Luk
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Why is the 'Kenya_count' not updated?

2004-12-08 Thread Luk Claes

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Hi

What do I have to do to update country_count in the consultants page?
I have recently added a consultant from Kenya, so I had to add Kenya to
the countries, but the Kenya_count isn't updated.

Cheers

Luk
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Re: schrijffout sociaal contract/ text error social contract

2004-11-29 Thread Luk Claes

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Bas wrote:
| http://www.debian.org/social_contract
| Hi on the above website (the dutch version),  I remarked a missing
word in
| the social contract.
| In dutch it says,
| --
| Geen onderscheid tussen gebruiksomgevingen
|
|
| De licentie mag het gebruik (van?) het programma in bepaalde
| gebruiksomgevingen niet inperken.
|
| It about the word 'van'
| --

Corrected. It will be visible on the server in a couple of hours.

Cheers

Luk

PS: Note that the translation of the social contract is 'outdated' (the
'new' version is different, see the english page).
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Re: No news for this year?

2004-11-19 Thread Luk Claes

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Olaf van der Spek wrote:
| Hi,
|
| At the dutch (NL) version of http://www.debian.org/News/, it says: Geen
| items voor dit jaar. (no items for this year).
| The english version works fine.

I cannot reproduce this (http://www.debian.org/News/index.nl.html).

Cheers

Luk
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Re: Providing documentation for developers (in the website) related to the buildd network

2004-11-08 Thread Luk Claes

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Wouter Verhelst wrote:
| On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 01:47:29PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino
Peña wrote:
|
|On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 11:54:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
[...]
|However, if you check the version number of the package in the Packages
|file, and check where the Sources file has its base URL, you can
|download the source tarball.
|
|I can't find the package in the sid Packages file, is it 'buildd'?
|
|
| In the db.debian.org packages file, not the sid one.
|
| wget http://db.debian.org/debian-admin/Packages
|
| look for 'buildd' in Packages, and see what the version number is.
| construct a file name 'wanna-build_' plus the version number of buildd
| as found in Packages.
|
| wget http://db.debian.org/debian-admin/wanna-build_$version.tgz
|
|
|A previous mail from you [1] points to http://db.debian.org/debian-admin/
|but that location is not available any more (I believe you are already
|aware of that)
|
|
|I agree that it would be better if the source would be readily
|downloadable, but that is currently not the case.
|
|Yes, most unfortunate. I've been able to find a buildd package,
however, at
|http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/buildd/
|
|I wonder if this one is recommended/used?
|
|
| Neither am I.
|
|
|[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg007006.html
|
|
| That link renders a 404.

I think he meant [2] (there was one 0 too many)

[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg00706.html

Cheers

Luk

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Bug#276630: Fwd: Mention Debian Reference in description user lists?

2004-10-15 Thread Luk Claes

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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

What do you think of mentioning the Debian Reference in the description
of some user mailinglists? Maybe we can add a link to the version online?

Cheers

Luk
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Re: DMUP violated? / Proposal: devel/website/using_cvs.wml

2004-09-04 Thread Luk Claes
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Florian Ernst wrote:

 Hello list!

Hello Flo

 OK, this seems to have been quite an unfortunate start for me:

 as CVS allows people to work independently and in the scope they
 prefer I saw no reason not to commit my first changes in small
 blocks to make sure I solely change what I intented to change, i.e.
 I fixed a spelling error in the english page and bumped the
 translation-check header in all applicable translations using the fine
 smart_change.pl, then committed this small block.
 I knew about the debian-www-cvs mailing list but thought this is
 acceptable, after all the system is set up for many changes.

 Apparently it was not acceptable, and at least one person was / is
 seriously annoyed by the amount of similar messages coming in, so I
 propose the attached change to devel/website/using_cvs.wml.

Well, I was also a bit annoyed by the amount of messages.

 Unfortunately things have already happened and as the very same person
 has used the term abuse please check whether I have violated the
 DMUP (I guess wilful, deliberate, reckless or unlawful act
 interfer[ing] with the work of another developer and Mail Bombing
 _could_ apply here) or any other document.

But I don't think it is a Mail Bombing or such, nor did it interfere
with my work (I don't know of interference with anybody elses work), so I
don't think you violated the DMUP.

I second the proposed patch and I hope you keep doing your analyses.

Cheers

Luk



Re: New page for devel/website

2004-08-24 Thread Luk Claes

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Tobias Toedter wrote:

| the long-term goal for the Debian website is to comply to the XHTML
| standard. I thought that maybe it could be a good idea to create a
page on
| which the most common mistakes/pitfalls etc. are listed when writing
XHTML.

I think it's a good idea to put such a page on the site.

But I also think we maybe need updated validate and tidy scripts? They
would ease the conversion and maintenance.

Cheers

Luk
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Re: Patch for webwml/english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD

2004-08-11 Thread Luk Claes

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Frederic Bothamy wrote:
| Hello,
|
| Here is a small patch for webwml/english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD which
| fixes the current validation error (Line 2528, character 109: general
| entity Store_Code not defined and no default entity).
|
| Index: webwml/english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD
| ===
| RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD,v
| retrieving revision 1.72
| diff -u -u -r1.72 vendors.CD
| --- webwml/english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD  8 Aug 2004 22:42:13 -   
1.72
| +++ webwml/english/CD/vendors/vendors.CD  11 Aug 2004 14:32:45 -
| @@ -2143,7 +2143,7 @@
|  vendorentry
|  vendor AllLinuxCD.com (TekQuest Marketing)
|  URL http://www.alllinuxcd.com/;
| -URLdeb
http://alllinuxcd.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYStore_Code=ALLLINUX;
| +URLdeb
http://alllinuxcd.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYamp;Store_Code=ALLLINUX;
|  contribution no
|  td
|  country MYc

I have committed this.

Cheers

Luk

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Bug#263084: Please change sexist language in debian (English) webpages

2004-08-03 Thread Luk Claes
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Matt Kraai wrote:

 In order to fix the other problems, it would be very helpful if
 someone would run

  grep -Erw '(he|him|his)' english

 in a webwml checkout and send either a patch or a list of pages
 that should be fixed to this bug.

Attached you can find the output. I have deleted the News and vote items
as well as some obvious correct uses of the male form. Though, I may have
deleted too much or too little, but I hope it can be a start.

I noticed a 'Him' on devel/leader that's why the line with that file is
kept.

Cheers

Lukenglish/po/README:   When a translator wants to work on a PO file, he runs 
'make update-po'
english/Bugs/Developer.wml:  him./strong
english/devel/dmup.wml:If someone violates the rules set in this document he 
will be subjected
english/devel/dmup.wml:   offender has announced he will be on vacation in this 
time frame this
english/devel/dmup.wml:liIf the offender is expelled from the project he can 
register to become
english/devel/dmup.wml:liIf the offender does not agree with the decision 
made by the DSA he can
english/devel/leader.wml:delegates, to see how he can assist their work.  A 
main task of the
english/devel/debian-med/other.wml:  with him for a day and which records an 
electrocardiogram, continuously,
english/devel/debian-med/talks/internal/index.wml:   freedom and ability to 
realize his vision/li
english/devel/debian-med/talks/internal/internal.en.mgp:   freedom and ability 
to realize his vision
english/devel/debian-med/talks/internal/luxint.mgp:   freedom and ability to 
realize his vision
english/devel/join/nm-amchecklist.wml:on his application he/she need only send 
a request to his last AM.
english/devel/join/nm-amchecklist.wml:If this fixes it, your applicant has a 
buggy ElG key.  Get him to
english/devel/join/nm-step5.wml:the report of the applicant from his 
Application Manager.  If the Developer
english/devel/todo/items/40testingscripts.wml:his one in unstable.
english/events/checklist.wml: ask him to sign up at the administration if 
they would like to
english/events/checklist.wml: and users with no outline in which anyone can 
ask any question he
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  As the maintainer did also 
read this page, he knows that to ease the
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  translators' job, he must not 
merge templates, but keep this file as is in
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  file in the 
codedebian//code subdirectory. As he uses
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  codedh_installdebconf/code 
in codedebian/rules/code, he had
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  Some weeks later, the package 
maintainer finishes his work on new
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  But as he does not speak 
French, he can not update
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  new version of his package.
english/international/l10n/templates/hints.wml:  Fortunately, as he wrote 
templates files ithe right way/i, this
english/intro/license_disc.wml: without his permission. 
english/security/1999/19990823c.wml:unknowningly overwrite a file to which he 
has access./define-tag
english/security/1999/19991030.wml:control the DNS entry for their IP he could 
fool lpr into granting access.
english/security/2000/2109.wml:control the DNS entry for their IP he could 
fool lpr into granting access.
english/security/2001/dsa-062.wml:to gain utmp which would allow him to modify 
the utmp file.
english/security/2001/dsa-065.wml:symbolic links on the Samba server he could 
trick Samba into
english/security/2001/dsa-065.wml:appending any data he wants to all files on 
the filesystem which
english/security/2001/dsa-069.wml:which would allow him to execute arbitrary 
code.
english/security/2001/dsa-080.wml:parameters.  If the user has write permission 
on the server he can
english/security/2001/dsa-085.wml:access of another users account if he hasn't 
lost his brain, we
english/security/2003/dsa-229.wml:screen, an attacker might update his mail 
signature to contain wanted
english/security/2003/dsa-249.wml:user to send his local cookies which are used 
for configuration.  The
english/security/2003/dsa-250.wml:user to send his local cookies which are used 
for configuration.  The
english/security/2003/dsa-251.wml:user to send his local cookies which are used 
for configuration.  The
english/template/debian/recent_list.wml:# dates for his different revisions.
english/vote/2000/leadership_debate/mat-speech.wml:expand, the DPL will need to 
delegate some of his responsibilities to
english/vote/howto_follow.wml:  The Project Leader, at his discretion, 
may allow the call to vote to be
english/vote/howto_follow.wml:  Project Leader at his discretion)./p  
english/vote/howto_proposal.wml:lists and to prevent him from 
having to subscribe to


Re: Possible error in check_trans.pl

2004-08-01 Thread Luk Claes
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Rumen Krastev wrote:

 Hello guys and girls (I hope there is ;-),
 today I founded a strange behavior of purging script, that removes more than
 6 months outdated translations. One of my translations
 (bulgarian/News/index.wml) was purged from the repository, I wondered what
 happend and browsed the log - what a suprise:

 revision 1.4  [Select for revision A] [Select for revision B]
 date: 01 08 2004 10:00; author: peterk

 Automatic purge of file outdated for six months.

v 1.1 is more than 6 months old (see below)

 revision 1.3  [Select for revision A] [Select for revision B]
 date: 01 08 2004 05:48; author: djpig

 Add missing translation header

v 1.1 ??! and the previous upload was a sync with v 1.25 ??!

 revision 1.2  [Select for revision A] [Select for revision B]
 date: 10 07 2004 12:46; author: rkrastev

 sync with v.1.25

 revision 1.1  [Select for revision A] [Select for revision B]
 date: 01 07 2004 23:28; author: kraai

 Update Bulgarian translation.

 *
 As you can see my last update is from 10.07 (and after that there is a fix
 from djpig - thank you :-), furthermore the file was commited initialy on 1
 of july (this year)...

The translation header should mention the translated English revision, so
it should have been 1.25 probably. As English revision 1.1 is more than 6
months old, the file would be completely outdated and as such is removed.
You can off course add it again.

 I didn't dig into this perl script (I've not time, sorry), but probably
 there is some kind of bug, as you can see from the cvs log, so it will be
 usefull to fix this, before more people/translations be affected like like
 me.

So, I don't think there is a bug in the script...

Cheers

Luk



Re: Possible error in check_trans.pl

2004-08-01 Thread Luk Claes
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Rumen Krastev wrote:

  The translation header should mention the translated English revision, so
  it should have been 1.25 probably. As English revision 1.1 is more than 6
  months old, the file would be completely outdated and as such is removed.

 You mean that the script doesn't compare dates of the modifications, instead
 it reads the header and if the header says i'm v1.1 or there is no such
 header it decides that this file is outdate? Bizzare :-/
 If it works like that, there is a bug for me - definitely.

No, it compares dates, but in your case djpig added a translation header
saying that you translated revision 1.1 and that revision is way older
than 6 months so irrespective of how old your translation is, this
translation would be very outdated and so it was deleted. The only problem
was thus that the revision number was 1.1 instead of 1.25.

  You can off course add it again.
 Yeap, and what happens when one day this script purge 20 or even more files
 in different directories? This would decrease the motivation of every
 translator :-/

You should add a translation header in every translated file with the
right revision number (that of the english page of course).

  So, I don't think there is a bug in the script...
 But I do

Still??

Cheers

Luk



Re: Typos on Dutch page about mailing lists

2004-07-26 Thread Luk Claes
On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Rob Hooft wrote:

 The Dutch page for: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ has the
 following typo's in order of their occurrence:

gebruikerssatistieken -  gebruikersstatistieken
het is ene bekend gegeven - het is een bekend gegeven
btreffende - betreffende
aan- of afmeldden - aan- of afmelden
   een verzoek tot afmelding moet verstuurd worden - een verzoek tot
 afmelding moet worden verstuurd
hekend - herkend
FROM_DAMEON - FROM_DAEMON
limiatie - limitatie (or even better: beperking)
Het gebruikt bijvoorbeeld vaak - Het gebeurt bijvoorbeeld vaak
naar de reguliere emaillijst-adres - naar het reguliere emaillijst-adres
copie - kopie
mailing,ijst - mailinglijst
naar goeder trouwe - te goeder trouw

Thanks for your report. I have corrected the mistakes, the updated page
should be online in a couple of hours.

Please keep up the good work of checking and reporting such mistakes, but
contact me directly or debian-l10n-dutch@lists.debian.org for mistakes in
the Dutch webpages for a quicker response.

Cheers

Luk



Re: Introducing RFH and OTH?

2004-07-26 Thread Luk Claes
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:

 Several months ago it was proposed (from the RM IIRC) to introduce
 new WNPP tags: RFH (request for help) and ITH/OTH (offer to help)

 I myself have to take a part of the blame that the discussion
 died out since I proposed to technically implement this but it
 was first impossible due to the compromise and then forgotten.

snip

 Now, before I complete and commit this and finally announce the
 availability of it I wanted to ask for comments again to see if this
 feature is still wanted and deemed useful.

I think the feature is very usefull. I'd like to do OTHs or respond to
ITHs! I think it could be an extra way to motivate future DDs.

It may even be an easier way to find sponsors (if I help you with your
ITH, can you please sponsor my package?), but that's maybe only my hope
;-)

Cheers

Luk



Re: Please don't remove outdated translations if the difference is very small

2004-07-06 Thread Luk Claes
  If I might pick this up: Can the translators of the following languages
 pretty please update their CD/http-ftp/index.wml file, it fails to build
 due to being outdated:

  -) dutch

My account has to be reenabled, I'm waiting on Joey :-(

Cheers

Luk



Bug#253817: page depending on po/whatever.po not rebuilt if whatever.po is modified

2004-06-11 Thread Luk Claes

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| this is because a target misc.$(LANGUAGE).html is defined
| and overrides default rule; one has to add $(GETTEXTDEP)
| to its dependencies. (I cannot commit at the moment)

I'll commit that if it is OK?

Cheers

Luk
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debian mentors FAQ

2004-06-11 Thread Luk Claes

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Hi

What do you think of adding a link to your Unoffical debian mentors
FAQ on http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals?

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#252267: Validation error consultants/index.**.html

2004-06-02 Thread Luk Claes

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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: minor
Tags: patch

According to alfie's script there is a validation error:

*** Errors validating /org/www.debian.org/www/consultants/index.en.html:
***
Line 4904, character 17:  NEGOTIABLE is not a member of a group specified
for any attribute
Line 4904, character 17:  element RATE undefined
Line 4906, character 4:  end tag for RATE omitted, but its declaration
does not permit this

The solution would be the following patch (missing s):

RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/consultants/consultant.data,v
retrieving revision 1.516
diff -r1.516 consultant.data
5990c5990
 rate   Negotiable
- ---
| rates Negotiable

I can apply the patch if you like, but I don't know if the *.data files
are handled specially and if it would be ok that I would apply these
kind of patches.

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#251205: doc/docpolicy: rather a link to the list archives than to the list address

2004-05-27 Thread Luk Claes

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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

p
This manual is quite outdated and there is an effort to fix it in
email debian-doc@lists.debian.org.

It would be better to have a link to the discussion ([1]?) than an
email ... tag.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/2002/10/msg00103.html

Cheers

Luk
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doc/todo: DDP i18n

2004-05-26 Thread Luk Claes

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Hi

While I translated the page to Dutch I found the following:

Add a way to manage translations automatically just as the website's
WML sources are.

I thought it's already handled with a project on alioth or is something
other meant?

If it is dealt with, shouldn't it be deleted from the TODO-file?

Cheers

Luk
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CVS access for Dutch page similar to webwml/french/international/french

2004-04-22 Thread Luk Claes

James A. Treacy wrote:

On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 09:56:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:

I'm a member of the Debian-l10n-Dutch Team. I want to make a webpage in 
Dutch to explain to users how they can help in translating Debian into 
Dutch. I would start with a page similar to the French one.


I asked bas about how I could start and he pointed me to you for a CVS 
account.



I have not worked on the web pages for 1.5 years.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a better place to ask.


So, here I am ;-)

I'm no DD yet, but I have an alioth account (luk-guest).

If you need more information, feel free to ask.

Cheers

Luk

PS: I'm not subscribed to debian-www, so please CC me in replies.