wiki EN language incident 2021-09

2021-09-04 Thread Federico Grau

# Intro
There was recently a minor (but potentially polarizing) wiki.d.o EN language
incident, which unfortunately left me with a "not-good feeling".  It warranted
being captured, possibly discussed wider, and ideally improved upon.

This is a long writeup.  I have tried to add section headings to help with
navigation.

For the record, I do not know "JasonJMitchell", and this is the first
"interaction" I recall with this individual.


# 
While I'd prefer to apply my energies on other tasks, such as continuing to
explore Debian and my scanner, or more importantly writing Mayor LaToya
Cantrell of New Orleans expressing the injustice of converting the 300+ year
Congo Square historical site into a multi-level automobile parking garage and
new Citi hall office building... this wiki.d.o incident strikes pretty close
to where I have been applying myself for a couple years now.



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# Sequence of events, as I Fede Grau (donfede) observed them:

- (2021-09-02) JasonJMitchell makes a minor edit to the SecureBoot wiki.d.o
  page, changing "enrol" to en_US style "enroll".  This appears to be the
  user's first wiki edit, with a detailed commit message.

https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot 

https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot?action=diff=81=82


- (~2021-09-03) on IRC #debian-www Paul Wise (pabs) comments on the above
  edit, and questions if "international english" should be used, and if a
  "policy should be created to standardize on that" (based on my faint memory,
  as I did not retain logs for that channel, aside from the two
  screen-captured lines listed below).

- In this IRC discussion Steve McIntyre (Sledge) responds he may undo this
  edit.

- I Fede Grau (donfede) contributed my 2-cents, suggesting the edit should be
  left and this may not warrant explicit policy (which turns out was already
  in place -- *to use US English* ).
  
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide#Translations 
  
  #debian-www on OFTC 
  (2021-09-)03_10:19  * donfede not sure there is value for a policy on english 
(or other major languages; e.g. es_ES vs es_AR) dialects on the wiki 
  (2021-09-)03_10:21  * donfede looks like a single recent edit by 
JasonJMitchell; maybe leave it as "organic community entropy" :)


- (2021-09-03) Steve McIntyre reverts the edit by Jason J Mitchell; there had
  been no further discussion on IRC that I saw and it's unclear if there was
  elsewhere.

https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot?action=diff=82=83


- (2021-09-04) Jason J Mitchell updates wiki EditorGuide and discussion pages
  to match the actions of this incident.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/ConventionsDiscussion
  
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/EditorGuide?action=diff=128=129


https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/ConventionsDiscussion?action=diff=122=123


- (2021-09-04) I learned of the changes to EditorGuide by Jason J Mitchell,
  via an automated-email from the wiki.  These changes seemed odd or agitated,
  and I commented about them on IRC #debian-www .  After a brief chat it
  became apparent that this was likely a reaction to the revert by Steve
  McIntyre.




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# Thoughts and concerns

- First despite my potentially forward or brash persona, I wanted to start
  recognizing and thanking Steve McIntyre for the many years of service and
  effort with Debian, including extensive stewardship of wiki.d.o and past
  tenure as DPL.  May there be many more, with continued good fruit.  
  My intent is not to engage or escalate.  
  The community strength is rooted in coming together and improving.


- Similarly I fully recognize that in the meritocracy, my contributions are
  minimal or practically insignificant.  
  
  From one point of view, I really enjoy wiki.d.o (among several other public
  and private wikis), and would optimistically like to continue being more
  involved with this team helping with future administration and improvements.
  There is a lot of opportunity.


- However, I will express concern over the recent wiki admin actions, and feel
  they border on heavy-handed use of powers.  While on the one hand, "it's a
  wiki, anyone can do anything" ... one might expect admins and regular
  contributors to know/function better.  In particular there seemed to be
  limited discussion and hasty action during this event (from my view).




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# Some recommendations

I Fede Grau (donfede) subjectively recommend: 

 a) Revert change 83 on the SecureBoot page, aligning with the EditorialGuide.

https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot?action=diff=82=83
 
 b) Reach out to user JasonJMitchell apologizing about the misunderstanding.
 b1) Ideally welcome them to the community and thank them for their efforts.
 b2) (Optionally) point out there had begun some debate on "lingua franca".
 
 c) Possibly consider an improved forum with more inputs to review editorial
language policy changes.
 c1) The output goal 

Bug#982344: www.debian.org: add sitemap link to main page, possibly footer

2021-02-08 Thread Federico Grau
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

Please (re?)add https://www.debian.org/sitemap to the main Debian web
page, https://www.debian.org/ .

With the changes evolving on the main page, having a link to the
sitemap, possibly in the footer, would be useful to visitors looking for
find specific content.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU threads)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled



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Agradecimientos

2007-05-11 Thread federico
tengo 55 años de edad. de profesión soy ingeniero termoenergético y mi 
trabajo desde el 1995 es el de informático. trataré de ser breve.


el software libre ES UNA ALTERNATIVA VALIDA.

en 1991 comencé a usar msdos y posteriormente windows. llegué hasta el xp.

desde el 1ero de julio del año 2006 utilizo debian. empecé con el sarge, 
luego ubuntu y ahora el etch. había jugado con el suse y con el 
mandrake, pero al debian le tenía respeto. hasta un día en que me cansé 
de formatear y reinstalar windows debido a virus, spyboots, conflictos 
de dlls, programas que al instalarlos me corrompían el sistema 
operativo, y toda la cadena de problemas que se enfrenta un ususario 
normal de microsoft. en los meses anteriores a julio 2006, cada vez que 
raramente caía en mis manos un ejemplar de pcworld u otra revista, sólo 
leía sobre el nuevo ¿os? windows vista. tanta propaganda ejerció en mi 
un efecto negativo. quemé las naves y después de salvar toda mi 
información instalé como único sistema operativo en mi máquina al debian 
sarge y con el sistema de archivos ext3. el hardware de mi máquina no 
vería nunca más a windows. tuve que instalar el vmware para seguir 
programando para los usuarios que atiendo que aun usan windows.


inicialmente no podía ver bien la televisión porque no sabía configurar 
adecuadamente el tvtime. no podia ver las películas en mi equipo de tv 
porque no sabía configurar el xorg. no podía hacer de forma fácil 
algunas otras cosillas. poco a poco me fui familiarizando con debian y 
fui descubriendo un mundo nuevo de posibilidades: estabilidad, 
multitarea de verdad, multiusuario de verdad, instalar y desinstalar 
paquetes a voluntad (), trabajar con diferentes administradores del 
desktop, y me di cuenta de que sencillamente tenía en mis manos un 
Sistema Operativo de Verdad.


cada día que pasa descubro nuevas posibilidades. mi viejo p4 @ 2.8 
renació con una velocidad y niveles de rendimiento que jamás había 
logrado. mi vista ha mejorado _enormemente _gracias al gnome. ya estoy 
iniciándome en el manejo de bases de datos en postgres con el php (eso 
era un sueño al menos para mi). tengo instalado el apache 2, mysql, 
postgres, samba como controlador de dominio al cual pertenece una 
máquina virtual windows 2000 ejecutándose sobre el virtualbox, y muchos 
otros softwares.


soy un hombre feliz y realizado, y quiero _*AGRADECER*_ el trabajo y 
esfuerzo de todos los que conforman el equipo debian y en general el de 
la iniciativa gnu/linux.


no puedo ayudarlos monetariamente pero si puedo contribuir con el equipo 
de traducción del inglés al español.


a su disposición.

federico antonio valdés toujague


Debian CD vendors list

2007-04-26 Thread Federico J. Fernández

Hi Debian people!

We would like to be added to the Debian CD vendors list. We're a small
open source group in Argentina triyng to spread the voice about
free/opensource software in Latin America.  We think that selling
Debian CDs to the community is a positive action in that way. We'll be
glad of being part of the list.


Here are the details:

Vendor Name: openIdeas
URL of Vendor: http://www.openideas.com.ar
Whether or not you donate some of the sale to Debian: no
Type of CDs sold (see at the top of the main page for details):
Official Debian CD
Country: Argentina
Do you ship orders overseas (yes, no, some areas or within
Europe): somes areas
URL of a web page that has information about your Debian CDs:
http://www.openideas.com.ar/debian-cds.html
Email address for sales enquiries: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What architectures your CDs are for: i386, amd64, ia64


Feel free to contact us if you need other details.

Thanks.

Bye!

--
Federico J. Fernandez
openIDEAS
http://www.openideas.com.ar


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