Bug#532810: update needed on /ports/m68k webpage
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 05:17:45PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Francesca Ciceri dixit: I've dropped the 'current issues' part and not mentioned the not-yet-created wiki.d.o/M68k/Status page: we could add this info when the page will be created. I’ve created it now and filled it with content; one of the issues has already been fixed by Andreas Schwab (thanks again), and we have some lead on the other. https://wiki.debian.org/M68k/Status Done! :) Thank you, Francesca signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#532810: update needed on /ports/m68k webpage
Francesca Ciceri dixit: I've dropped the 'current issues' part and not mentioned the not-yet-created wiki.d.o/M68k/Status page: we could add this info when the page will be created. I’ve created it now and filled it with content; one of the issues has already been fixed by Andreas Schwab (thanks again), and we have some lead on the other. https://wiki.debian.org/M68k/Status bye, //mirabilos -- 22:20⎜asarch The crazy that persists in his craziness becomes a master 22:21⎜asarch And the distance between the craziness and geniality is only measured by the success 22:21⎜mksh it’s a very thin line anyway… with some, you don’t know which side they’re on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.bsm.4.64l.1101291716590.10...@herc.mirbsd.org
Bug#532810: update needed on /ports/m68k webpage
Francesca Ciceri dixit: @@ -5,7 +5,9 @@ pThe Motorola 680x0 series of processors have powered personal computers and workstations since the mid-1980s. Debian currently runs -on the 68020, 68030, 68040 and 68060 processors. +on the 68020, 68030, 68040 and 68060 processors: this is an unofficial port +meaning that there's not an official and released m68k port but this port is +under development./p pPlease note that a a href=http://foldoc.org/foldoc.cgi?query=memory+management+unit; I’d add “… and released m68k port _any more_” here, since it used to be and people hope it will eventually become one. @@ -20,10 +22,31 @@ h2Status/h2 pThe Debian m68k port was first officially released with Debian 2.0 -(hamm)./p +(hamm) and was an official port until Debian 4.0 (etch). There's now an effort +to revive this port./p -pCurrent Debian releases support Atari, Amiga, VMEbus, and some Macintosh -systems./p +pCurrently, the Debian/m68k port supports Atari, Amiga, VMEbus, and some +Macintosh systems./p lgtm +pFor now, the m68k team is facing two pressing issues a +href=http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2010/11/msg00077.html;ttres_init()/tt +segfaults/a and a Yes, no feedback on that from either 68k or eglibc yet, but I’ll try to look deeper into it and/or prod more people when getting back from VAC (possibly starting today). +href=http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2010/12/msg0.html;gcj, possibly +boehm-gc, fails out in ttsem_wait/tt/a, but Working on it, new eglibc is compiling, thanks _again_ to Andreas Schwab. Maybe it helps, maybe it isn’t. I think we shouldn’t hardcode such things on the main website but refer to something like the as-of-yet not created https://wiki.debian.org/M68k/Status instead. +p +Thorsten Glaser has created a +href=http://people.debian.org/~tg;a tarball/a of a freshly made http://people.debian.org/~tg/f/m68k/ I had that linked from https://wiki.debian.org/M68k/Cowbuilder which you mentioned, but maybe not visibly enough. (I’m not really good at structuring documentation, admittedly.) +tt/var/cache/pbuilder/base.cow/tt (which can also be used as a chroot +of Debian unstable on any Linux/m68k machine, or as starting point for that) … machine with a TLS capable kernel, … +and he plan to upgrade it quite regularly. At least for some time. I don’t promise I stick with m68k for long, but it peeked my interest, and I’m learning a lot. Rest looks good too. Thanks, //mirabilos -- “Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.” -- Edward Burr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.bsm.4.64l.1101031651521.31...@herc.mirbsd.org
Bug#532810: update needed on /ports/m68k webpage
Francesca Ciceri dixit: Debian currently runs on the 68020, 68030, 68040 and 68060 processors. Current Debian releases support Atari, Amiga, VMEbus, and some Macintosh systems. I’d keep the “Debian currently runs” but state that this is not in a released version and hasn’t been for a while, but that people are working on it and help be welcome. Then, replace “Current Debian releases support” with “Currently, the Debian/m68k port supports”. I’ll leave the text supplication to others, however this one would be nice to have ;-) Index: index.wml === RCS file: /cvsroot/webwml/webwml/english/ports/m68k/index.wml,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -p -r1.26 index.wml --- index.wml 11 Oct 2008 12:45:07 - 1.26 +++ index.wml 29 Dec 2010 16:21:15 - @@ -92,6 +92,15 @@ system for Debian 3.1 and above) to the Together with Stephen Marenka, ported debian-installer (the installation system for Debian 3.1 and above) to the m68k architecture. +dtThorsten Glaser +dd +Collected patches from Debian/m68k maintainers, Linux/m68k developers, and +other people; brought Debian/m68k through the transition from linuxthreads +to NPTL with TLS by integrating those into the Debian packages and being +the human equivalent of a buildd for long enough to bootstrap sid again. +Finn Thain, Andreas Schwab and Geert Uytterhoeven provided valuable input +to this, besides those already mentioned above. + /dl w.r.t. the recent effort to revive the port and the progress about it). I’ve put up, on my people.d.o home directory, a tarball of a freshly made /var/cache/pbuilder/base.cow (which can also be used as a chroot of Debian unstable on any Linux/m68k machine, or rather as starting point for that) and plan to upgrade it every once in a while, for some time. I also intend to prepare an upgraded VM image and upload that. The current VM image is based on a much older unstable but works just fine as starting point (given a new kernel and the chroot), and is documented on: https://wiki.debian.org/Aranym/Quick (thanks, Stephen). I wrote about cowbuilder and the chroot on the Debian Wiki, too: https://wiki.debian.org/M68k/Cowbuilder (contains a download link) We currently have two pressing issues (res_init() segfaults, and gcj, possibly boehm-gc, fails out in sem_wait) but most packages can be compiled again (with cowbuilder; since buildd needs eMail and sendmail calls res_init, I haven’t made any further progress in setting up a buildd, but others here run one and can probably just throw away their current sid chroot, extract mine, put up a TLS capable kernel, and be done, as long as the unreleased repo is (currently) included in the in-chroot sources.list). I fudged some build-deps (mostly X stuff) to compile packages since I’ll *not* recompile x.org by hand; manual de- pendency resolution is… quite an intense job. The two issues were written about in: ‣ http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2010/11/msg00077.html ‣ http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2010/12/msg0.html bye, //mirabilos -- 15:39⎜«mika:#grml» mira|AO: mit XFree86® wär’ das nicht passiert - muhaha 15:48⎜thkoehler:#grml also warum machen die xorg Jungs eigentlich alles kaputt? :)15:49⎜novoid:#grml thkoehler: weil sie als Kinder nie den gebauten Turm selber umschmeissen durften? -- ~/.Xmodmap wonders… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.bsm.4.64l.1012291559190.21...@herc.mirbsd.org
Bug#532810: update needed on /ports/m68k webpage
Hi all, I'm a member of Debian www team. I'm sending this mail cause it was reported (see bug #532810) that www.d.o/ports/m68k page fails to mention current unsupported status of m68k, suggesting the opposite in this two sentences: Debian currently runs on the 68020, 68030, 68040 and 68060 processors. [...] Current Debian releases support Atari, Amiga, VMEbus, and some Macintosh systems. My intent is to close this bug whithin a week, mentioning that m68k is no longer an official port since Etch: so, please let me know if you want to update directly that page or if you can/want provide me a text to put in (also w.r.t. the recent effort to revive the port and the progress about it). TIA, Francesca signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#532810: update needed on /ports/m68k webpage
Francesca Ciceri dixit: w.r.t. the recent effort to revive the port and the progress about it). I’ll write on that later. Just FYI that I saw it and will RSVP. bye, //mirabilos -- ch you introduced a merge commit│mika % g rebase -i HEAD^^ mika sorry, no idea and rebasing just fscked │mika Segmentation ch should have cloned into a clean repo │ fault (core dumped) ch if I rebase that now, it's really ugh │mika:#grml wuahh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pine.bsm.4.64l.1012281857220.1...@herc.mirbsd.org
