Bug#791506: [www.debian.org] Content negotiation doesn't work properly with pt_BR at the Release Notes web page

[James Addison]

Package: www.debian.org
Followup-For: Bug #791506
Control: retitle -1 [www.debian.org] Release notes are translated per-language, 
not per-locale

> Content negotiation works well: if you have pt-BR and pt locales enabled in
> browser, and go to https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/releasenotes you
> are presented a "pt" translation of the page (because there is no pt-br
> translation of that page) and thus the links to "Português" are in bold
> instead of the links to "Português (Brasileiro)".

Ah, OK: that makes sense, thank you.  I agree that content negotiation is
working as expected (and have retitled the bug).

> So (correct me if I'm wrong) I think the best is leave things as they are,
> suggest users to include both pt-br and pt locales in their browser, and
> close this bug. 

That sounds correct.  Before we do that, there is one idea/workaround I had
that probably has flaws, but that I would like to mention:

We could update the logic here to use lang.startswith instead of lang.equals:

  - 
https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/blob/master/english/template/debian/release.wml#L216-218

That would mean that when content-negotiation finds the most-relevant available
translation for a page (say, 'pt'), we embolden all of the potential
translations.

(I think it would remain as-cacheable as today, and that any resulting bundling
of the release notes HTML into redistributable packages should not increase in
variance as a result of it)

Bug#791506: [www.debian.org] Content negotiation doesn't work properly with pt_BR at the Release Notes web page

[Laura Arjona Reina]

Hello

Content negotiation works well: if you have pt-BR and pt locales enabled in 
browser, and go to https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/releasenotes you are 
presented a "pt" translation of the page (because there is no pt-br translation 
of that page) and thus the links to "Português" are in bold instead of the links 
to "Português (Brasileiro)".
OTOH if you click the links that are on top of the page (e.g. "Release Notes 
para PC 64 bits (amd64)") or go directly to 
https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/, you will get the 
pt-br translation of the release notes (because for release notes, there are pt 
and pt-br versions).


Notes:
1.- Our website does not admit, currently, pt + pt-br variants (the release 
notes docs allow pt and pt-br, but not our webwml pages).
2.- If a person only has pt-br locale (and not "pt"), for the webwml pages they 
will get a fallback language, because in the config of Apache of our website we 
say that for pt-br they should serve a pt-br page (not a pt one):


https://salsa.debian.org/dsa-team/mirror/dsa-puppet/-/blob/production/modules/roles/templates/apache-www.debian.org.erb

But if we'd change the Apache config to serve .pt files for pt-br locale, I 
think that the pt-br versions of release notes and maybe other documents 
wouldn't be served.


So (correct me if I'm wrong) I think the best is leave things as they are, 
suggest users to include both pt-br and pt locales in their browser, and close 
this bug.


CC'ing the Portuguese language team, for the case I'm missing something or they 
have a better idea.


Kind regards,

--
Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona



El 5/2/23 a las 13:12, James Addison escribió:

Package: www.debian.org
Followup-For: Bug #791506

Dear Maintainer,

When I have *both* pt-BR and pt locales enabled in my browser (Firefox 102),
then this bug appears: the 'pt' Release Notes links appear in bold instead of
the expected 'pt_BR' links appearing in bold.

When I remove pt, then the page is negotiated to a fallback language (en-based
with my browser settings).

Is it possible that content-negotiation is only enabled currently for
two-character language codes, and not for country+locale combinations?

Thank you,
James

Bug#791506: [www.debian.org] Content negotiation doesn't work properly with pt_BR at the Release Notes web page

[James Addison]

Package: www.debian.org
Followup-For: Bug #791506

Dear Maintainer,

When I have *both* pt-BR and pt locales enabled in my browser (Firefox 102),
then this bug appears: the 'pt' Release Notes links appear in bold instead of
the expected 'pt_BR' links appearing in bold.

When I remove pt, then the page is negotiated to a fallback language (en-based
with my browser settings).

Is it possible that content-negotiation is only enabled currently for
two-character language codes, and not for country+locale combinations?

Thank you,
James

Bug#791506: [www.debian.org] Content negotiation doesn't work properly with pt_BR at the Release Notes web page

[Holger Wansing]

Hi,

Marcelo Santana  wrote:
> Please could anybody verify why the CN doesn't work properly for the
> Release Notes web page[1] with pt_BR language?
> 
> [1]https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes
> 
> Explaining better, although I have my browser configured with pt_BR as
> preferred language, the link that appears in bold is to pt_PT version
> of RN.

This works fine for me here (with Seamonkey browser, a derivative from the
Firefox).
It's probably a browser issue?
Did you try with another browser?


Holger

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Bug#791506: [www.debian.org] Content negotiation doesn't work properly with pt_BR at the Release Notes web page

[Marcelo Santana]

Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
Tags: l10n

Hi there.

Please could anybody verify why the CN doesn't work properly for the
Release Notes web page[1] with pt_BR language?

[1]https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes

Explaining better, although I have my browser configured with pt_BR as
preferred language, the link that appears in bold is to pt_PT version
of RN.

Thanks in advance.

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100 unstable ftp.br.debian.org

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