Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Hi Brice, The trouble is, I've upgraded my computer and I'm not using that setup anymore. I'm sorry. -- aldemir - Original Message From: Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aldemir Akpinar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 11:42:02 PM Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 12:59:00PM +0200, Brice Goglin wrote: Ok, thanks for testing. So, to summarize: * The ATI driver 6.6.193 is broken in this board but 6.7.193 is fine. * Xserver 1.4 + ATI RandR 1.2 does not accept another board/driver in the config, and it might take time to get this fixed... I am retitling/reassigning back to the Xserver now that ATI driver issues are clarified. Aldemir, We are trying to make sure that Xserver 1.4 is really the problem here. So we want to know whether Xserver 1.3 works when a RandR 1.2 (such as ATI) and another one (such as MGA) are used at the same time. I just build a very recent snapshot of the ATI driver for testing/Lenny: http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/rebuilds/ati-6.7.198-Xserver1.3/ Could you test it (after downgrading to xserver-xorg-core 1.3 from testing if necessary) and see whether it works with the MGA driver enabled at the same time? You'll just need a config with both drivers, probably very similar to what you had at the beginning of this bug report. You might need to try with and without some advanced config such as Screen 0 Screen 1 0 0 Screen 1 Screen 2 RightOf Screen 1 in the ServerLayout section. thanks in advance, Brice __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 12:59:00PM +0200, Brice Goglin wrote: Ok, thanks for testing. So, to summarize: * The ATI driver 6.6.193 is broken in this board but 6.7.193 is fine. * Xserver 1.4 + ATI RandR 1.2 does not accept another board/driver in the config, and it might take time to get this fixed... I am retitling/reassigning back to the Xserver now that ATI driver issues are clarified. Aldemir, We are trying to make sure that Xserver 1.4 is really the problem here. So we want to know whether Xserver 1.3 works when a RandR 1.2 (such as ATI) and another one (such as MGA) are used at the same time. I just build a very recent snapshot of the ATI driver for testing/Lenny: http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/rebuilds/ati-6.7.198-Xserver1.3/ Could you test it (after downgrading to xserver-xorg-core 1.3 from testing if necessary) and see whether it works with the MGA driver enabled at the same time? You'll just need a config with both drivers, probably very similar to what you had at the beginning of this bug report. You might need to try with and without some advanced config such as Screen 0 Screen 1 0 0 Screen 1 Screen 2 RightOf Screen 1 in the ServerLayout section. thanks in advance, Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Hello, With the lines you have specified removed, I can confirmed that the driver in experimental works in a single-head configuration. Thanks, -- aldemir - Original Message From: Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aldemir Akpinar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 11:57:55 AM Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Attaching the xorg.conf file that i used. You should comment this out: Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama true EndSection And maybe change the following line Screen 0 Screen 1 0 0 into Screen Screen 1 I can't remove the mga card today ( would be too much disruption for my work.). But I think I can try that tomorrow. Let's see what happens with the above changes in xorg.conf first. Thanks a lot Aldemir, you're being great. Brice ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
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Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 443274 xserver-xorg-core Bug#443274: xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI) Bug reassigned from package `xserver-xorg-video-ati' to `xserver-xorg-core'. found 443274 2:1.4-2 Bug#443274: xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI) Bug marked as found in version 2:1.4-2. retitle 443274 Xserver 1.4 + RandR 1.2 driver crash in xf86CrtcScreenInit if a second board/driver is added Bug#443274: xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI) Changed Bug title to `Xserver 1.4 + RandR 1.2 driver crash in xf86CrtcScreenInit if a second board/driver is added' from `xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI)'. thank you Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
reassign 443274 xserver-xorg-core found 443274 2:1.4-2 retitle 443274 Xserver 1.4 + RandR 1.2 driver crash in xf86CrtcScreenInit if a second board/driver is added thank you Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Hello, With the lines you have specified removed, I can confirmed that the driver in experimental works in a single-head configuration. Ok, thanks for testing. So, to summarize: * The ATI driver 6.6.193 is broken in this board but 6.7.193 is fine. * Xserver 1.4 + ATI RandR 1.2 does not accept another board/driver in the config, and it might take time to get this fixed... I am retitling/reassigning back to the Xserver now that ATI driver issues are clarified. Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
No it doesn't. Also X process can not be killed with a -9 as well. As you might imagine Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't bring back the console too. But with a dual-head setup Ctrl+Alt+Backspace works and X can be killed. -- aldemir - Original Message From: Julien Cristau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aldemir Akpinar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 1:40:36 AM Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:31:52 -0700, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Hi, Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. Does it work if you use a single-head setup enabling only the ati board? Cheers, Julien ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Hi, I have installed the deb package you have provided, and yes this thing causes the problem I am having. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log file for that session. I have tried disabling dri as well but that didn't work. I have both tried Setting disable dri in the modules section and option dri off in both devices section. -- aldemir - Original Message From: Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aldemir Akpinar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 September, 2007 8:04:17 PM Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. Ok I didn't see that before replying, thanks for testing. I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. Assuming you downgraded back to Xorg 7.2 and Xserver 1.3, could you try the following old xserver-xorg-video-ati package? It's the same driver for the old Xserver 1.3. It will help us know whether the problem is in Xserver 1.4 or in the driver. http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/08/05/debian/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.6.193-1_i386.deb Brice ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
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Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 443274 xserver-xorg-video-ati Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Bug reassigned from package `xserver-xorg-core' to `xserver-xorg-video-ati'. found 443274 1:6.6.193-3 Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Bug marked as found in version 1:6.6.193-3. severity 443274 important Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Severity set to `important' from `serious' retitle 443274 xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI) Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Changed Bug title to `xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI)' from `dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4'. thank you Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
reassign 443274 xserver-xorg-video-ati found 443274 1:6.6.193-3 severity 443274 important retitle 443274 xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI) thank you Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Hi, I have installed the deb package you have provided, and yes this thing causes the problem I am having. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log file for that session. I have tried disabling dri as well but that didn't work. I have both tried Setting disable dri in the modules section and option dri off in both devices section. Ok I am reassigning back to ati driver then. It looks like another Xpress 200 chipset related problem. You might want to try xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.193-1 currently in experimental, it contains some fixes for these chipsets. Or you can stay in testing (ati 6.6.3 + xserver-xorg-core 1.3). Or you can stay in unstable and use a rebuild of the old 6.6.3 driver for Xserver 1.4, I'll build that soon anyway. Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Brice Goglin wrote: Or you can stay in unstable and use a rebuild of the old 6.6.3 driver for Xserver 1.4, I'll build that soon anyway. http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/ati-rebuilds/6.6.3-Xserver1.4/ To use this package, upgrade back to unstable (xserver-xorg-core 1.4 and drivers) and then replace your xserver-xorg-video-ati with this one (dpkg -i foo.deb). If it works, there is no problem for you with Xserver 1.4, only the ati driver 6.6.193-3 is broken. Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Aldemir Akpinar wrote: I have tried your unstable package, and it works fabulously. In fact I am using it right now. Good to know! I have also tried the package in experimental but that one gave me a segfault. What I did was, first I upgraded my X to unstable version (7.3). Then I got the experimental package with apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati -t experimental . And I am attaching the log file as well. From the log, it looks like you had the MGA board enabled in xorg.conf. I am afraid this setup cannot work since the new ati driver 6.7.193 uses RandR 1.2 while the mga driver does not, and the server does not seem to appreciate multiple boards in RandR 1.2 so far, and it's not clear it's going to be fixed soon unfortunately. So it'd be good to comment out all MGA related lines in xorg.conf and test with 6.7.193-1 again. That would help us know: * does ati 6.7.193 fixes the problem for your board that 6.6.193 has? (you might need to disable DRI again, not sure) * how does the server behave when mixing RandR 1.2 and non-RandR drivers We could also imagine that you test the new RandR 1.2 MGA driver (1.9.99 in experimental), but you might hate me if I ask for more testing :) And this driver seems pretty young so far, so we'll see that later. thanks, Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Hi there, Ok I have made some more tests. I have installed xorg packages from unstable. I have also install mga and ati drivers from experimental. What happens is whether I turn off definitions for Mga or not I get a segfault. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log again. In this log file I have executed X with a single head-setup. Let me know if you need more information. I can do some more testing I think. Thanks, -- aldemir - Original Message From: Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aldemir Akpinar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 11:19:06 AM Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: I have tried your unstable package, and it works fabulously. In fact I am using it right now. Good to know! I have also tried the package in experimental but that one gave me a segfault. What I did was, first I upgraded my X to unstable version (7.3). Then I got the experimental package with apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati -t experimental . And I am attaching the log file as well. From the log, it looks like you had the MGA board enabled in xorg.conf. I am afraid this setup cannot work since the new ati driver 6.7.193 uses RandR 1.2 while the mga driver does not, and the server does not seem to appreciate multiple boards in RandR 1.2 so far, and it's not clear it's going to be fixed soon unfortunately. So it'd be good to comment out all MGA related lines in xorg.conf and test with 6.7.193-1 again. That would help us know: * does ati 6.7.193 fixes the problem for your board that 6.6.193 has? (you might need to disable DRI again, not sure) * how does the server behave when mixing RandR 1.2 and non-RandR drivers We could also imagine that you test the new RandR 1.2 MGA driver (1.9.99 in experimental), but you might hate me if I ask for more testing :) And this driver seems pretty young so far, so we'll see that later. thanks, Brice ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ Xorg.0.log.segfault2 Description: Binary data
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Hi there, Ok I have made some more tests. I have installed xorg packages from unstable. I have also install mga and ati drivers from experimental. What happens is whether I turn off definitions for Mga or not I get a segfault. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log again. In this log file I have executed X with a single head-setup. Let me know if you need more information. I can do some more testing I think. Thanks. May I see your xorg.conf when MGA is disabled? I want to make sure there is no dangerous line, for instance Screen 0 Rightof 1, RandR drivers generally don't like these. Even with MGA disabled, it could cause ATI 6.7.192 to crash. If it even crashes when the whole dual-board config is disabled, the next step would be to remove the MGA board from the machine so that the server does not even try to look at it, I'll understand if you can't do this :) Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Attaching the xorg.conf file that i used. I can't remove the mga card today ( would be too much disruption for my work.). But I think I can try that tomorrow. Thanks, -- aldemir - Original Message From: Brice Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aldemir Akpinar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 11:47:01 AM Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Hi there, Ok I have made some more tests. I have installed xorg packages from unstable. I have also install mga and ati drivers from experimental. What happens is whether I turn off definitions for Mga or not I get a segfault. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log again. In this log file I have executed X with a single head-setup. Let me know if you need more information. I can do some more testing I think. Thanks. May I see your xorg.conf when MGA is disabled? I want to make sure there is no dangerous line, for instance Screen 0 Rightof 1, RandR drivers generally don't like these. Even with MGA disabled, it could cause ATI 6.7.192 to crash. If it even crashes when the whole dual-board config is disabled, the next step would be to remove the MGA board from the machine so that the server does not even try to look at it, I'll understand if you can't do this :) Brice ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ xorg.conf Description: Binary data
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Attaching the xorg.conf file that i used. You should comment this out: Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama true EndSection And maybe change the following line Screen 0 Screen 1 0 0 into Screen Screen 1 I can't remove the mga card today ( would be too much disruption for my work.). But I think I can try that tomorrow. Let's see what happens with the above changes in xorg.conf first. Thanks a lot Aldemir, you're being great. Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. Ok I didn't see that before replying, thanks for testing. I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. Assuming you downgraded back to Xorg 7.2 and Xserver 1.3, could you try the following old xserver-xorg-video-ati package? It's the same driver for the old Xserver 1.3. It will help us know whether the problem is in Xserver 1.4 or in the driver. http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/08/05/debian/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.6.193-1_i386.deb Brice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:31:52 -0700, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Hi, Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. Does it work if you use a single-head setup enabling only the ati board? Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital signature
