Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-12 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 01:08:49PM -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
  This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
  It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
  HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
  squeeze system.
 
  The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
  file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
  where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.
 
  If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
  kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
  and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
  applies to the X driver too.
 
 
 With or without KMS, the userspace acceleration drivers can certainly
 cause GPU hangs if the 3D engine is programmed with some combination
 of commands it doesn't like.
 
Note that the bug in question causes a *kernel* lockup, not just a GPU
hang. As indicated by the output in the bug log¹, we're getting a “BUG:
unable to handle kernel paging request” after a GPU reset on 2.6.37,
while a silent lockup on 2.6.32.

Regards,
Faidon

¹: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616301#30



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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-07 Thread Alex Deucher
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 13:08 -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
  severity 616301 critical
  thanks
 
  No, not unless it will affect a large proportion of users.
 
  My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
  yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
  shouldn't happen.
 
  This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
  It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
  HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
  squeeze system.
 
  The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
  file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
  where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.
 
  If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
  kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
  and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
  applies to the X driver too.
 

 With or without KMS, the userspace acceleration drivers can certainly
 cause GPU hangs if the 3D engine is programmed with some combination
 of commands it doesn't like.

 You can't solve the halting problem but you can implement a watchdog,
 can't you?

We have lockup detection and asic reset support, but depending on the
lockup it may or may not be able to successfully reset the asic.
Also, as for the command buffer checking, we try to protect against
basic stupidity, but the chips are just too complex to check for every
possible scenario that might cause a hang.

Alex


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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-07 Thread Dave Airlie
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 13:08 -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
  severity 616301 critical
  thanks
 
  No, not unless it will affect a large proportion of users.
 
  My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
  yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
  shouldn't happen.
 
  This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
  It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
  HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
  squeeze system.
 
  The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
  file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
  where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.
 
  If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
  kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
  and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
  applies to the X driver too.
 

 With or without KMS, the userspace acceleration drivers can certainly
 cause GPU hangs if the 3D engine is programmed with some combination
 of commands it doesn't like.

 You can't solve the halting problem but you can implement a watchdog,
 can't you?


We do, we reset the GPU 10s after it hangs, but this depends on a lot
of things going our way.

Occasionally we do reset the GPU when we shouldn't as well.

However if there is an issue in the kernel, ddx or mesa driver,
constants resets will pretty much DoS the GPU.

Dave.



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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sam, 2011-03-05 at 16:23 +0100, Herber Sylwester wrote: 
 
 I'm starting to think it may be caussed by hardware malfunction.

No, it seems clear at this point that it's a youtube change triggering a
pre-existing bug in the Mesa r600 driver.


 I've noticed that system does not hang - I'm able to go to a console 
 login and reboot. The screen ends 10cm below the monitor so i have to 
 gues some things. If it would be helpful I may try to record the incident.

Might be nice for the sake of completeness, though most likely it'll
just be generic symptoms from GPU lockups, which unfortunately don't say
much about what triggered them. The most promising approach at this
point seems bisecting which Mesa upstream change fixed the problem.


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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-06 Thread Alex Deucher
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
 severity 616301 critical
 thanks

 No, not unless it will affect a large proportion of users.

 My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
 yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
 shouldn't happen.

 This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
 It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
 HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
 squeeze system.

 The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
 file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
 where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.

 If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
 kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
 and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
 applies to the X driver too.


With or without KMS, the userspace acceleration drivers can certainly
cause GPU hangs if the 3D engine is programmed with some combination
of commands it doesn't like.

Alex

 Ben.

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 13:08 -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
  severity 616301 critical
  thanks
 
  No, not unless it will affect a large proportion of users.
 
  My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
  yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
  shouldn't happen.
 
  This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
  It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
  HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
  squeeze system.
 
  The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
  file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
  where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.
 
  If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
  kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
  and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
  applies to the X driver too.
 
 
 With or without KMS, the userspace acceleration drivers can certainly
 cause GPU hangs if the 3D engine is programmed with some combination
 of commands it doesn't like.

You can't solve the halting problem but you can implement a watchdog,
can't you?

Ben.

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-06 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
I haven't heard of many chips that won't hang given the wrong 
instructsion whether it's GPU or keyboard controller.  Sounds like more 
than a driver issue but a choice of driver issue.  How are you going to 
have it both ways without an ammount of care you have no time for?


having interrupting access / watchdog is nice if your driver can do that

Ben Hutchings wrote:

On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 13:08 -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:

On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:

severity 616301 critical
thanks

No, not unless it will affect a large proportion of users.


My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
shouldn't happen.

This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
squeeze system.

The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.

If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
applies to the X driver too.


With or without KMS, the userspace acceleration drivers can certainly
cause GPU hangs if the 3D engine is programmed with some combination
of commands it doesn't like.


You can't solve the halting problem but you can implement a watchdog,
can't you?

Ben.






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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 19:49 -0500, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
 I haven't heard of many chips that won't hang given the wrong 
 instructsion whether it's GPU or keyboard controller.

Of course.  This is why the kernel driver filters the commands going to
the GPU - the commands come from unprivileged applications (the Mesa
driver is just a shared library) and should not be trusted.

 Sounds like more 
 than a driver issue but a choice of driver issue.  How are you going to 
 have it both ways without an ammount of care you have no time for?
 
 having interrupting access / watchdog is nice if your driver can do that
 
 Ben Hutchings wrote:
[...]

Don't top-post.

Ben.

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-06 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
of course if you ask and have that command.  just ask I'm actually not 
planning on being in the channel long.  someone might find me!  he he.


Question.  can I ask what top-post is?  I will look it up too.  debian 
rules are getting rather long to even have heard about even having read 
a good part of them once.


Ben Hutchings wrote:

On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 19:49 -0500, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
I haven't heard of many chips that won't hang given the wrong 
instructsion whether it's GPU or keyboard controller.


Of course.  This is why the kernel driver filters the commands going to
the GPU - the commands come from unprivileged applications (the Mesa
driver is just a shared library) and should not be trusted.

Sounds like more 
than a driver issue but a choice of driver issue.  How are you going to 
have it both ways without an ammount of care you have no time for?


having interrupting access / watchdog is nice if your driver can do that

Ben Hutchings wrote:

[...]

Don't top-post.

Ben.






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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-05 Thread Oliver Winker
Hi,

Same thing here ... with basically same constellation in terms of
packages and update timing.

For info:

Work around on Youtube: Disable HW accel in flashplayer (Right-click /
Settings on some none-crashing flashplayer instance (some other
web-site) using iceweasel e.g.).

So it might be maybe radeon, video HW accel related ... !?

G+, Oliver



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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-05 Thread Herber Sylwester

Hi there.

W dniu 04.03.2011 22:44, Cyril Brulebois pisze:

Hi,

Herber Sylwestersly...@oomkill.net  (03/03/2011):

What I can tell from /var/log/apt/history.log
[…]


hmm, nothing seems related. Any chance you upgraded something in the
kernel/X stack before that, and only restarted your X or rebooted
lately?

KiBi.



Mayby the upgrade was just a time related coincidence.
After the upgrade i did niether reboot the machine nor restart the X-server.
I remeber that 2nd I've watched few Youtube videos and it was fine.
Don't know if attaching history.log for february will do any good.
I did not do any manual enhancements to the system especially the kernel 
part.

Regards,
Herber Sylwester.


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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-05 Thread Herber Sylwester

Hi there.
W dniu 04.03.2011 22:44, Cyril Brulebois pisze:

Hi,

Herber Sylwestersly...@oomkill.net  (03/03/2011):

What I can tell from /var/log/apt/history.log
[…]


hmm, nothing seems related. Any chance you upgraded something in the
kernel/X stack before that, and only restarted your X or rebooted
lately?

KiBi.


Todays update:

Start-Date: 2011-03-05  16:03:36
Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
Install: libglib2.0-bin:i386 (2.28.1-1+b1, automatic), gcc-4.5-base:i386 
(4.5.2-4, automatic), libboost-program-options1.42.0:i386 (1.42.0-4, 
automatic), libsoundtouch0:i386 (1.5.0-4, automatic)
Upgrade: browser-plugin-gnash:i386 (0.8.8-9, 0.8.9~git20110220-1), 
libjna-java:i386 (3.2.4-2, 3.2.7-1), libstdc++6:i386 (4.4.5-12, 
4.5.2-4), libwildmidi1:i386 (0.2.3.2-2, 0.2.3.4-1), rpm2cpio:i386 
(4.8.1-6, 4.8.1-7), librpmbuild1:i386 (4.8.1-6, 4.8.1-7), libmpfr4:i386 
(3.0.0-2, 3.0.0-7), python-mako:i386 (0.3.6-1, 0.4.0-1), 
libportaudio2:i386 (19+svn20071022-3.2, 19+svn20101113-3), xsane:i386 
(0.997-2+b1, 0.998-1), mobile-broadband-provider-info:i386 (20101106-1, 
20110218-1), libk3b6:i386 (2.0.2-1, 2.0.2-1+b1), libglib2.0-dev:i386 
(2.24.2-1, 2.28.1-1+b1), libutempter0:i386 (1.1.5-3, 1.1.5-4), 
hplip-cups:i386 (3.10.6-2, 3.11.1-2), libx11-data:i386 (1.4.1-4, 
1.4.1-5), libgfortran3:i386 (4.4.5-12, 4.5.2-4), iputils-ping:i386 
(20100418-3, 20101006-1), hpijs:i386 (3.10.6-2, 3.11.1-2), hplip:i386 
(3.10.6-2, 3.11.1-2), libsqlite3-dev:i386 (3.7.4-2, 3.7.5-1), 
librpmio1:i386 (4.8.1-6, 4.8.1-7), librpm1:i386 (4.8.1-6, 4.8.1-7), 
rpm-common:i386 (4.8.1-6, 4.8.1-7), libgomp1:i386 (4.4.5-12, 4.5.2-4), 
libpcre3:i386 (8.02-1.1, 8.12-3), libx11-xcb1:i386 (1.4.1-4, 1.4.1-5), 
libsqlite3-0:i386 (3.7.4-2, 3.7.5-1), k3b:i386 (2.0.2-1, 2.0.2-1+b1), 
libgcc1:i386 (4.4.5-12, 4.5.2-4), konqueror-plugin-gnash:i386 (0.8.8-9, 
0.8.9~git20110220-1), libhpmud0:i386 (3.10.6-2, 3.11.1-2), w3m:i386 
(0.5.3-1, 0.5.3-2), mozilla-plugin-gnash:i386 (0.8.8-9, 
0.8.9~git20110220-1), python-pysqlite2:i386 (2.6.0-1, 2.6.3-1), 
libglib2.0-data:i386 (2.24.2-1, 2.28.1-1), libfreetype6-dev:i386 
(2.4.2-2.1, 2.4.4-1), xdg-utils:i386 (1.1.0~rc1-1, 1.1.0~rc1-2), 
rpm:i386 (4.8.1-6, 4.8.1-7), gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386 
(0.10.19-2+b2, 0.10.19-2.1), libgcc1-dbg:i386 (4.4.5-12, 4.5.2-4), 
xsane-common:i386 (0.997-2, 0.998-1), libemail-mime-perl:i386 (1.906-1, 
1.907-1), libfreetype6:i386 (2.4.2-2.1, 2.4.4-1), gnash:i386 (0.8.8-9, 
0.8.9~git20110220-1), libglib2.0-0:i386 (2.24.2-1, 2.28.1-1+b1), 
libk3b6-extracodecs:i386 (2.0.2-1, 2.0.2-1+b1), libsane-hpaio:i386 
(3.10.6-2, 3.11.1-2), libx11-6:i386 (1.4.1-4, 1.4.1-5), 
pkg-kde-tools:i386 (0.9.3, 0.9.5), klash:i386 (0.8.8-9, 
0.8.9~git20110220-1), libx11-dev:i386 (1.4.1-4, 1.4.1-5), libobjc2:i386 
(4.4.5-12, 4.5.2-4), gnash-common:i386 (0.8.8-9, 0.8.9~git20110220-1), 
sqlite3:i386 (3.7.4-2, 3.7.5-1), binfmt-support:i386 (2.0.2, 2.0.3), 
eject:i386 (2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-7.1, 2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-8), 
libmms0:i386 (0.6.2-1, 0.6.2-2), hplip-data:i386 (3.10.6-2, 3.11.1-2)

End-Date: 2011-03-05  16:06:20

Did not help either.
I'm starting to think it may be caussed by hardware malfunction. (wild 
goose chase?)
I've noticed that system does not hang - I'm able to go to a console 
login and reboot. The screen ends 10cm below the monitor so i have to 
gues some things. If it would be helpful I may try to record the incident.

Sincerely,
Herber Sylwester.




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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-04 Thread Apollon Oikonomopoulos
Hi,

Same thing here, opening any youtube video since March 3 crashes the whole
system using iceweasel 3.5.16-4. The crash has been consistent across two
identical machines and started occurring yesterday. The fact that we didn't
upgrade Flash, combined with the fact that yesterday I noticed some issues* on
youtube on another machine (without radeon), leads me to the conclusion that
the bug is triggered by some change youtube did to their player.

* red and green tinting allover the video and misaligned image, as well as
  crashes of the plugin (only, not the browser or the system). This system has
  nothing to do with the affected systems (i915, x86, lenny).

Due to this bug actually DoS'ing the whole system by simply opening a URL, IMHO
it should be marked critical (and possibly reassinged to the kernel?).

The hardware we're having problems with, are two x86_64 systems with:

VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]

graphics cards.

I have tested with both, 2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-30) and 2.6.37-2-amd64 from 
sid (2.6.37-2) with the same result (crash). Also, I tried both 
xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1 (squeeze) and 1:6.14.0-1 
(sid) and both keep crashing.

The problem in my system manifests with flash plugin version 10.3 r162
(64-bit). Version 10.0 r42 (which was in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree) works
fine.


Following are the backtraces obtained with netconsole from 2.6.32 and 
2.6.37:

2.6.32
==
[  826.144018] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
fence(88010002a980:0xCA4C) 504ms timeout going
to reset GPU
[  826.144029] radeon :01:00.0: GPU softreset
[  826.144033] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0xE57024E0
[  826.144038] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x00110103
[  826.144042] radeon :01:00.0:   R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x20C0
[  826.144052] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x7FEE
[  826.144107] radeon :01:00.0: R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0001
[  826.144166] radeon :01:00.0:   R_000E60_SRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0402
(death and silence)


2.6.37
==
[  491.372026] radeon :01:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 1msec
[  491.372034] [ cut here ]
[  491.372059] WARNING: at 
/build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.37-2-amd64-bITS0h/linux-2.6-2.6.37/debian/build
/source_amd64_none/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:244 
radeon_fence_wait+0x235/0x2d3 [radeon]()
[  491.372065] Hardware name: OptiPlex 780
[  491.372068] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x6E39 last fence id 0x6E38)
[  491.372072] Modules linked in: gre netconsole configfs 8021q garp ppdev lp 
nf_conntrack_netlink nfn
etlink kvm_intel kvm nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv6 ip6table_filter 
ip6_tables xt_pkttype xt_tcpudp
nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_state nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables 
x_tables fuse bridge s
tp coretemp loop snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep 
snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss
snd_pcm radeon snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer 
snd_seq_device snd soundc
ore ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit snd_page_alloc power_supply shpchp 
parport_pc joydev tpm_tis t
pm dell_wmi sparse_keymap i2c_i801 tpm_bios processor wmi parport i2c_core 
thermal_sys dcdbas[  491.37
3400] radeon :01:00.0: GPU softreset
[  491.373403] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0xE57024E0
[  491.373406] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x00110103
[  491.373408] radeon :01:00.0:   R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x20C0
[  491.373416] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x7FEE
[  491.388299] radeon :01:00.0: R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0001
[  491.404176] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0xA0003030
[  491.404179] radeon :01:00.0:   R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x0003
[  491.404181] radeon :01:00.0:   R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x200080C0
[  491.405177] radeon :01:00.0: GPU reset succeed
[  491.405200] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at c900112013e0
[  491.405258] IP: [a046fa73] rs600_gart_set_page+0x28/0x34 [radeon]
[  491.405304] PGD 12780d067 PUD 12780e067 PMD 11f44a067 PTE 0
[  491.405336] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP
[  491.405354] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/chassis_asset_tag
[  491.405379] CPU 1
[  491.405388] Modules linked in: gre netconsole configfs 8021q garp ppdev lp 
nf_conntrack_netlink nfn
etlink kvm_intel kvm nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv6 ip6table_filter 
ip6_tables xt_pkttype xt_tcpudp
nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_state nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables 
x_tables fuse bridge s
tp coretemp loop snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep 
snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss
snd_pcm radeon snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer 
snd_seq_device snd soundc
ore ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit snd_page_alloc power_supply shpchp 
parport_pc joydev tpm_tis t
pm dell_wmi sparse_keymap i2c_i801 tpm_bios processor wmi 

Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-04 Thread Faidon Liambotis
severity 616301 critical
thanks

My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
shouldn't happen.

This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
squeeze system.

The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.

Regards,
Faidon



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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
severity 616301 important
thanks

Faidon Liambotis parav...@debian.org (04/03/2011):
 severity 616301 critical
 thanks

No…

 […] but in any case this shouldn't happen.

Plenty of other things shouldn't happen. That doesn't make it a
critical bug.

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi,

Herber Sylwester sly...@oomkill.net (03/03/2011):
 What I can tell from /var/log/apt/history.log
 […]

hmm, nothing seems related. Any chance you upgraded something in the
kernel/X stack before that, and only restarted your X or rebooted
lately?

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(Trying to gather everyone in To/Cc.)

Hi,

Apollon Oikonomopoulos apoi...@gmail.com (04/03/2011):
 Same thing here, opening any youtube video since March 3 crashes the whole
 system using iceweasel 3.5.16-4. The crash has been consistent across two
 identical machines and started occurring yesterday. The fact that we didn't
 upgrade Flash, combined with the fact that yesterday I noticed some issues* on
 youtube on another machine (without radeon), leads me to the conclusion that
 the bug is triggered by some change youtube did to their player.

while you're at it, could you try switching off KMS? That should get
you a working system in the interim.

 The hardware we're having problems with, are two x86_64 systems with:
 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]
 
 graphics cards.
 
 I have tested with both, 2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-30) and
 2.6.37-2-amd64 from sid (2.6.37-2) with the same result
 (crash). Also, I tried both xserver-xorg-video-radeon
 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1 (squeeze) and 1:6.14.0-1 (sid) and both keep
 crashing.

If you have some more time, you might want to check what happens with
2.6.38rc* from experimental.

 Following are the backtraces obtained with netconsole from 2.6.32
 and 2.6.37:
[…]

Thanks. To reply Faidon's question on IRC, I guess we might want to
either reassign that bug to the kernel (affecting the driver + the
server, to make sure it gets noticed) and/or to clone it for now,
until further investigation happens. Michel, any preference?

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 21:01 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
 severity 616301 critical
 thanks

No, not unless it will affect a large proportion of users.

 My system locks up whenever I click on a YouTube video link since
 yesterday. I can probably live without YouTube :), but in any case this
 shouldn't happen.
 
 This isn't a singled out case nor in exotic, possibly faulty, hardware.
 It's on a standard 1½-year old Dell OptiPlex 780 desktop with a Radeon
 HD card (one of the standard configurations) and this is on a stock
 squeeze system.
 
 The findings so far seem to suggest this is a Mesa issue; I'd probably
 file it under Linux kernel bugs (or even DoS bugs) but I'm not sure
 where to properly file such bugs in the post-KMS stack world.

If there is a kernel driver involved then it should be assigned to the
kernel.  Even without KMS, a Mesa driver should be considered untrusted
and should not be able to trigger a crash or hang.  With KMS, this
applies to the X driver too.

Ben.

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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2011-03-03 at 11:41 +0100, slyher wrote: 
 Package: xserver-xorg-video-radeon
 Version: 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1
 Severity: important
 
 Hi there.
 After updating the packages 2. March 2011 [...]

What packages were upgraded from/to which versions?


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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-03 Thread Herber Sylwester

W dniu 03.03.2011 12:24, Michel Dänzer pisze:

On Don, 2011-03-03 at 11:41 +0100, slyher wrote:

Package: xserver-xorg-video-radeon
Version: 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1
Severity: important

Hi there.
After updating the packages 2. March 2011 [...]


What packages were upgraded from/to which versions?





Hi there.
What I can tell from /var/log/apt/history.log

Start-Date: 2011-03-01  17:27:00
Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
Upgrade: foomatic-db-engine:i386 (4.0.4-3, 4.0.7-1), dnsmasq-base:i386 
(2.55-2+b1, 2.57-1), python-markupsafe:i386 (0.9.2-3, 0.12-1), 
musescore-common:i386 (0.9.6+dfsg-1, 1.0+dfsg-2), musescore:i386 
(0.9.6+dfsg-1, 1.0+dfsg-2), gpgv:i386 (1.4.10-4, 1.4.11-3), 
foomatic-filters:i386 (4.0.5-6, 4.0.7-1), foomatic-filters-ppds:i386 
(4.0.4-3, 4.0.7-1), musescore-soundfont-gm:i386 (0.9.6+dfsg-1, 
1.0+dfsg-2), gnupg:i386 (1.4.10-4, 1.4.11-3)

End-Date: 2011-03-01  17:28:29

Start-Date: 2011-03-02  09:03:39
Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade
Install: libclass-load-perl:i386 (0.06-1, automatic)
Upgrade: desktop-base:i386 (6.0.5, 6.0.6), libcupscgi1:i386 (1.4.5-3, 
1.4.6-1), cups-client:i386 (1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libcupsmime1:i386 
(1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libnspr4-0d:i386 (4.8.6-1, 4.8.7-2), cups-ppdc:i386 
(1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libcupsppdc1:i386 (1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), 
cups-common:i386 (1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libcups2:i386 (1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), 
libgsf-1-common:i386 (1.14.19-2, 1.14.19-3), cups:i386 (1.4.5-3, 
1.4.6-1), libcupsdriver1:i386 (1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libgdata7:i386 
(0.6.4-2, 0.6.4-3), cups-bsd:i386 (1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libcupsimage2:i386 
(1.4.5-3, 1.4.6-1), libdatetime-timezone-perl:i386 (1.23-1+2010n, 
1.28-1+2011b), libgsf-1-114:i386 (1.14.19-2, 1.14.19-3), 
libgdata-common:i386 (0.6.4-2, 0.6.4-3)

End-Date: 2011-03-02  09:05:00




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Bug#616301: xserver-xorg-video-radeon:screen goes black, system hangs after 2sec:[youtube(FF/Opera)-reset req.]

2011-03-03 Thread Matthias Rühl
Package: xserver-xorg-video-radeon
Version: 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1
Severity: normal

Hi.

I'm experiencing the same problem, i.e. whenever I open a youtube.com website 
with 
video content my system hangs (black screen and monitor reports/gives warning 
of wrong 
input frequencies).

Until at least two days ago I could play youtube videos without issues using 
iceweasel 
with Adobe Flash Player (flashplugin-nonfree); but not today.
I also run 'aptitude update  aptitude upgrade' regularly but I doubt the 
following 
packages have something to do with this.

/var/log/apt/history.log:

Start-Date: 2011-03-01  03:11:17
Upgrade: libsmbclient:amd64 (3.5.6~dfsg-3, 3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze2), 
smbclient:amd64 (3.5.6~dfsg-3, 3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze2), libwbclient0:amd64 
(3.5.6~dfsg-3, 3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze2), libavahi-glib1:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 
0.6.27-2+squeeze1), libavahi-common-data:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 0.6.27-2+squeeze1), 
libavahi-core7:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 0.6.27-2+squeeze1), samba-common:amd64 
(3.5.6~dfsg-3, 3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze2), avahi-dnsconfd:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 
0.6.27-2+squeeze1), avahi-daemon:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 0.6.27-2+squeeze1), 
libavahi-client3:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 0.6.27-2+squeeze1), samba-common-bin:amd64 
(3.5.6~dfsg-3, 3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze2), libavahi-common3:amd64 (0.6.27-2, 
0.6.27-2+squeeze1)
End-Date: 2011-03-01  03:11:24

Start-Date: 2011-03-03  02:39:51
Upgrade: libpango1.0-common:amd64 (1.28.3-1+squeeze1, 1.28.3-1+squeeze2), 
libpango1.0-0:amd64 (1.28.3-1+squeeze1, 1.28.3-1+squeeze2)
End-Date: 2011-03-03  02:39:57


More interesting are the syslog entries when hitting the bug (abbreviated).

/var/log/syslog:

Mar  3 10:17:01 banshee /USR/SBIN/CRON[9664]: (root) CMD (   cd /  run-parts 
--report /etc/cron.hourly)
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676053] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
fence(880061522f40:0x0031D254) 508ms timeout going to reset GPU
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676064] radeon :01:05.0: GPU 
softreset 
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676070] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0xE77324AC
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676076] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x00110103
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676081] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x20001040
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676090] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x7FEE
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676146] radeon :01:05.0: 
R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0001
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676204] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_000E60_SRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0402
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676360] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0x3030
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676365] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x0003
Mar  3 10:18:29 banshee kernel: [27296.676370] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x2040
-- message loop (trying to softreset endlessly) --
Mar  3 10:20:00 banshee kernel: [27387.493788] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
fence(880062eb7540:0x0031D382) 516ms timeout
Mar  3 10:20:00 banshee kernel: [27387.493797] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
last signaled fence(0x0031D382)
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008063] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
fence(880062eb7dc0:0x0031D384) 504ms timeout going to reset GPU
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008076] radeon :01:05.0: GPU 
softreset 
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008082] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0xA0003030
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008089] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x0003
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008096] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x2040
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008106] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x7FEE
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008164] radeon :01:05.0: 
R_008020_GRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0001
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008224] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_000E60_SRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x0402
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008382] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008010_GRBM_STATUS=0x3030
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008392] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_008014_GRBM_STATUS2=0x0003
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.008401] radeon :01:05.0:   
R_000E50_SRBM_STATUS=0x2040
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.009795] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
fence(880062eb7dc0:0x0031D384) 512ms timeout
Mar  3 10:20:03 banshee kernel: [27390.009804] [drm:radeon_fence_wait] *ERROR* 
last signaled fence(0x0031D384)
Mar  3 10:20:04 banshee kernel: [27391.517962] SysRq : Emergency Remount R/O


Maybe Google changed the video format which triggers a bug in the graphics 
driver?

Kind regards,


Matthias



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