Re: HAL and *BSD

2013-06-10 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi,

On 05/06/13 02:08, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Afaics, there are basically 3 options:
 
 1/ We drop hal and Xorg is ported to something like devd on *BSD
 
 2/ We drop hal and hal support is simply disabled on non-Linux, which
 means, Xorg needs to be configured manually? Maybe Julien or KiBi can
 provide more info on this.
 
 3/ we keep hal, but only for the non-Linux architectures and I'd need
 someone (from the kfreebsd porters team) to take over maintenance.

I don't see that FreeBSD upstream has a replacement yet so are still
using HAL in their latest releases and development head.

There was no mention of Hurd here;  how would it be affected by this?  I
guess it is a long way from having something to replace the
functionality of HAL?

I'm aware it's not a release arch but to me it would tip in favour of
keeping hal around for a little longer, only for non-linux arches (and
potentially other ports).

Regards,
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Re: HAL and *BSD

2013-06-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, le Mon 10 Jun 2013 23:20:54 +0100, a écrit :
 On 05/06/13 02:08, Michael Biebl wrote:
  Afaics, there are basically 3 options:
  
  1/ We drop hal and Xorg is ported to something like devd on *BSD
  
  2/ We drop hal and hal support is simply disabled on non-Linux, which
  means, Xorg needs to be configured manually? Maybe Julien or KiBi can
  provide more info on this.
  
  3/ we keep hal, but only for the non-Linux architectures and I'd need
  someone (from the kfreebsd porters team) to take over maintenance.
 
 I don't see that FreeBSD upstream has a replacement yet so are still
 using HAL in their latest releases and development head.
 
 There was no mention of Hurd here;  how would it be affected by this?

Just the same I guess.

 I guess it is a long way from having something to replace the
 functionality of HAL?

Yes.

Samuel


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Re: HAL and *BSD

2013-06-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
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KiBi.

Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (05/06/2013):
 Hi BSD porters,
 
 as you may know, hal hasn't seen any upstream development for years and
 is dead. For that matter I've filed bug reports some time ago [1].
 The only real blocker atm that I can see is Xorg using hal on kfreebsd.
 
 There has been some discussion about this topic over two years ago [2],
 to get Xorg ported to devd on *BSD but I don't know what the current
 state of that effort is.
 
 Afaics, there are basically 3 options:
 
 1/ We drop hal and Xorg is ported to something like devd on *BSD
 
 2/ We drop hal and hal support is simply disabled on non-Linux, which
 means, Xorg needs to be configured manually? Maybe Julien or KiBi can
 provide more info on this.
 
 3/ we keep hal, but only for the non-Linux architectures and I'd need
 someone (from the kfreebsd porters team) to take over maintenance.
 
 While I personally would prefer 1/, I don't know if there has been
 progress on this, so I'd like some input from the kfreebsd porters on
 this matter and what their preference is.
 
 Cheers,
 Michael
 
 
 [1]
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=halectomy;users=pkg-utopia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org
 [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2011-February/010474.html
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