Re: Maintaining older xorg driver packages by Debian Ports
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 14:22, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 4/21/20 3:09 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: > >> After some xorg driver packages were removed from the archive in #955603 > >> [1] > >> that we still need for Debian Ports, I was wondering whether it's okay when > >> I take over maintainership and upload the packages to unstable as we need > >> them. > >> > >> I understand that the timing is a bit unfortunate, but I wasn't aware of > >> the > >> removal bug otherwise, I would have asked for some of the drivers to stay. > >> > >> But I can just maintain the driver packages myself if that's ok? > >> > > If they're needed by debian-ports, then may I suggest you maintain them > > there? > > Maintaining them in Debian Ports is completely manual and therefore very > cumbersome. The packages cannot be built automatically unless they > are part of the main archive. Hi Julien et al, is it possible to get some further feedback on this issue? It affects a large number of users of older hardware, who were not aware of the change until after the fact. It isn't as though the drivers fail to build or are unsupported upstream, and a Debian developer (Adrian) has offered to maintain the package. Thanks, Ed Robbins
Re: Maintaining older xorg driver packages by Debian Ports
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 12:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hi! > > After some xorg driver packages were removed from the archive in #955603 [1] > that we still need for Debian Ports, I was wondering whether it's okay when > I take over maintainership and upload the packages to unstable as we need > them. > > I understand that the timing is a bit unfortunate, but I wasn't aware of the > removal bug otherwise, I would have asked for some of the drivers to stay. > > But I can just maintain the driver packages myself if that's ok? This sounds like a good idea. I have a number of machines affected by this issue (both G4 and x86). Is it possible to bring these packages back into debian? They work well enough for many users. Thanks, Ed Robbins
Re: Maintaining older xorg driver packages by Debian Ports
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi! > > After some xorg driver packages were removed from the archive in #955603 [1] > that we still need for Debian Ports, I was wondering whether it's okay when > I take over maintainership and upload the packages to unstable as we need > them. > > I understand that the timing is a bit unfortunate, but I wasn't aware of the > removal bug otherwise, I would have asked for some of the drivers to stay. > > But I can just maintain the driver packages myself if that's ok? > > Thanks, > Adrian > >> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=955603 but this is terrible news... also the comments seen meaningless: "it's not like the driver hasgained any new functionality." Well.. of course no new stuff, but it works. It would be nice to improve them, but perhaps right now nobody had the joy to hack them. Granted, the dirvers could use some cleanup, but several do work, with some limitations. - neomagic works "perfect" - savage is strange, it has glitches on Debian, but works perfect in NetBSD (tested on different laptops though ThinkPad vs Portege) - mach64 works as of today and r128 even better! The others I can't say, did not use them personally. This is gratuitously declaring death to several ThinkPads, Toshipa Porteges, iBooks and PowerBooks which are working as I am typing now. Happy hacking ond classic laptops (don't you love good keyboards and 4:3 screens?) Riccardo
Re: Maintaining older xorg driver packages by Debian Ports
On 4/21/20 3:09 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: >> After some xorg driver packages were removed from the archive in #955603 [1] >> that we still need for Debian Ports, I was wondering whether it's okay when >> I take over maintainership and upload the packages to unstable as we need >> them. >> >> I understand that the timing is a bit unfortunate, but I wasn't aware of the >> removal bug otherwise, I would have asked for some of the drivers to stay. >> >> But I can just maintain the driver packages myself if that's ok? >> > If they're needed by debian-ports, then may I suggest you maintain them > there? Maintaining them in Debian Ports is completely manual and therefore very cumbersome. The packages cannot be built automatically unless they are part of the main archive. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Re: Maintaining older xorg driver packages by Debian Ports
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 13:23:40 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi! > > After some xorg driver packages were removed from the archive in #955603 [1] > that we still need for Debian Ports, I was wondering whether it's okay when > I take over maintainership and upload the packages to unstable as we need > them. > > I understand that the timing is a bit unfortunate, but I wasn't aware of the > removal bug otherwise, I would have asked for some of the drivers to stay. > > But I can just maintain the driver packages myself if that's ok? > If they're needed by debian-ports, then may I suggest you maintain them there? Cheers, Julien
