[Declude.JunkMail] orbzout test

2002-03-12 Thread Steve Flook

I am curious how everyone is treating the orbzout test nowadays.  I seem to
get way to many false positives from this test from domains like
earthlink.net and bellatlantic.net.

I have it weighted at 5 now, but the combination of orbzout, nopostmaster
and noabuse (like from earthlink) trips my tests to take action.  

Should I be disregarding orbzout all together?

Thanks-
Steve
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[Declude.JunkMail] More wounderful SWBell.net

2002-03-12 Thread Eje Gustafsson

I know there was a discussion a few days ago about SWBells wounderfull
DNS service.

Well thought I give a true sad story. About a year ago we ran MailMax
and McAfee Webshield SMTP. We did an update of mailmax to latest
version less then a week later our server got hijacked and used as a
spamrelay server. Mailmax was configured to avoid relaying but
something was obviously broke and SmartMax people just keep saying
nothing wrong with mailmax even though I could show them rbl listings
with our mailmax servers tag in the passed messages.
After 5 days we gave up and started looking for new software and our
eyes fell on Ipswitch Imail and Declude antivirus and junkmail.
Said and done we bought 2 days delivery same day we ordered it we got
a call from SWBell Policy department telling us to shutdown our
mailserver or we would find our upstream bandwidth shutdown by 5pm
that same day (which BTW is big nono according to our contract we are
required 14day written notice). I managed to buy ourselves 24hrs more
since we had ordered the software and fixup so that swbell relay tests
wouldn't go through so I got enough time to get our new mailserver
software and install it without further threats (dirty done by me but
hey)...

Either way..

Today I found this after gotten a complaint from a customer that
couldn't receive mail from a customers of theirs.

#nslookup smtp-relay.swbell.net

Name:smtp-relay.swbell.net
Address:  151.164.30.54

http://www.orbz.org/b.php?151.164.30.54

Now... What is wrong with this picture 

If I do it they can violate our contract and threaten to terminate me
but they can run a relay server for over 3 weeks 

Besides I'm STILL waiting four our letter of apology from SWBell for
this incident.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Inbound and outbound domain restriction

2002-03-12 Thread John R. Van Nice

I would like to restrict certain users to only be able to send and receive 
email within the domain they reside.

I would need a per-user filter that would bounce everything coming in from 
other domains, and block outbound email to anything but the senders domain.

How would this be set up with Junkmail Pro?

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[Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS test

2002-03-12 Thread Susan Duncan

Can I get more info on how the REVDNS test is done?  We have half a
class C so our upstream provider does our reverse DNS.  Apparently
somewhere along the line they dropped the config for us and we didn't
have reverse dns set up for mail.sirc.ca.  After much email back and
forth, yesterday they told me that they'd fixed it.

I can't tell if they have and I'm still getting all of our internal mail
coming in with the REVDNS message. Are you checking with specific
servers and the info just hasn't propagated yet or is there something
else?


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[Declude.JunkMail] Problem with new long Imail file name

2002-03-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

I have just found a problem. (Well any way, I just noticed it.)

I was trying to watch a message go through. The user has reported
problems.

Imail assigned a long file name to it.

However, Declude deccon only shows an 8 character length file name.

How can we find the file in the deccon log when it shows a different
file name?

John Tolmachoff 
IT Manager, Network Engineer
211 E. Imperial Hwy., Suite 106
Fullerton, CA  92835
714-578-7999, ext. 104
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS test

2002-03-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

Yep, it's there.

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=206.191.24.151
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=sirc.ca


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714-578-7999, ext. 104
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Susan Duncan
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Declude List
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS test

Can I get more info on how the REVDNS test is done?  We have half a
class C so our upstream provider does our reverse DNS.  Apparently
somewhere along the line they dropped the config for us and we didn't
have reverse dns set up for mail.sirc.ca.  After much email back and
forth, yesterday they told me that they'd fixed it.

I can't tell if they have and I'm still getting all of our internal mail
coming in with the REVDNS message. Are you checking with specific
servers and the info just hasn't propagated yet or is there something
else?


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS test

2002-03-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Can I get more info on how the REVDNS test is done?

It's a standard reverse DNS lookup -- for more details, you'll need to go 
to the RFCs.

We have half a class C so our upstream provider does our reverse DNS.

That's fine.  They can either handle it, or delegate your half of the class 
C to your DNS servers.

I can't tell if they have and I'm still getting all of our internal mail
coming in with the REVDNS message.

A lot of people seem to think that the REVDNS checks to see if *your* mail 
server has a reverse DNS entry -- but if that were the case, either all 
mail would fail the REVDNS test, or none would.

It checks the IP address of the remote computer (the one connecting to your 
mail server), not the IP address of your mail server.  Although it's very 
important to have the reverse DNS entry for your mailserver, you also need 
reverse DNS entries for your other hosts.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Inbound and outbound domain restriction

2002-03-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


I would like to restrict certain users to only be able to send and receive 
email within the domain they reside.

I would need a per-user filter that would bounce everything coming in from 
other domains, and block outbound email to anything but the senders domain.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a way that you would be able to accomplish 
this, either with Declude or IMail.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Problem with new long Imail file name

2002-03-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


However, Declude deccon only shows an 8 character length file name.

How can we find the file in the deccon log when it shows a different
file name?

That is something that we are going to need to find a way to work 
around.  Unfortunately, IMail's new 17-character file name length is going 
to cause lots of problems.  For example, instead of searching for a 
7-character string in log files, you're going to have to type in a 
16-character string.  And, that's going to take up more space in the log 
files, making them harder to read.

Right now, the only known issues with the new 17-character file name length 
that was added to 7.06HF1 is the truncated entries in the log files.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question

2002-03-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Since I am sure it is the same for JunkMail, how do you whitelist a
subnet?

For Declude JunkMail, you would use something like this:

 WHITELIST   IP  192.168.0.

Declude Hijack doesn't have a method for whitelisting a subnet.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS test

2002-03-12 Thread Susan Duncan

Ok, now I'm confused.  Are you saying then that even though all the machines in my
network are assigned IP addresses via DHCP, that I have to have each of those
address resolve to something in the reverse DNS?  I think most people would only
list servers, not workstations in DNS.  I don't even have them listed in the
primary.

We are getting the error on every piece of internal mail that originates from a
user on our network.

R. Scott Perry wrote:

 A lot of people seem to think that the REVDNS checks to see if *your* mail
 server has a reverse DNS entry -- but if that were the case, either all
 mail would fail the REVDNS test, or none would.

 It checks the IP address of the remote computer (the one connecting to your
 mail server), not the IP address of your mail server.  Although it's very
 important to have the reverse DNS entry for your mailserver, you also need
 reverse DNS entries for your other hosts.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] REVDNS test

2002-03-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Ok, now I'm confused.  Are you saying then that even though all the 
machines in my
network are assigned IP addresses via DHCP, that I have to have each of those
address resolve to something in the reverse DNS?  I think most people 
would only
list servers, not workstations in DNS.  I don't even have them listed in the
primary.

If the IPs are Internet-reachable, they are required to have a reverse DNS 
entry.  If the IPs are internal only (IE 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x), they are 
not required to have a reverse DNS entry.

If they are external IPs, and you don't want reverse DNS entries, you can 
disable the REVDNS test.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question

2002-03-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

So, if I have to whitelist a subnet of 240, I would have to put each of
the 16 addresses on a separate line?

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IT Manager, Network Engineer
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Fullerton, CA  92835
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question


Since I am sure it is the same for JunkMail, how do you whitelist a
subnet?

For Declude JunkMail, you would use something like this:

 WHITELIST   IP  192.168.0.

Declude Hijack doesn't have a method for whitelisting a subnet.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question

2002-03-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


So, if I have to whitelist a subnet of 240, I would have to put each of
the 16 addresses on a separate line?

That is correct.
-Scott

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