RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question

2002-09-27 Thread Jim Rooth

Getting to me...look here, you say you been thinking again!  Sounds like
a retread coming off to me...


Jim Rooth
Klotron, Inc.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 01:00
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question


Thanks Scott, I meant to say SPAMHEADERS in lieu of BADHEADERS...to
ya'll I was RFC ignorant...you had to figure the rest of the ignorance
out on your own...LOL

Me thinks you have been spending too much time around a truck stop again
Jim. The diesel fumes are getting to you again.

:-)

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-27 Thread Keith Purtell

I've been trying to understand this discussion about HOP/HOPHIGH. The docs describe 
this as a
feature used when email is internally re-routed. Am I to assume those who contributed 
to this thread
have that type of configuration?

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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Bill,

Mine is set to 2 (for a total of 3).  I started at 0, then 1 and found that spam still 
got around my
filters that would have been caught at 2.  I changed it to 2 4+ months ago and haven't 
looked back.
Your mileage may vary.  I haven't seen a need to set it at 3.

Dan



On Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:19, Bill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How affective is scanning at multiple Hops?  I'm not setting
HOPHIGH right now...but I'm currious if the people who are
using it are seeing its benefits, or if it is causing them any
problems.

And what is the recommended HOPHIGH setting (assuming HOP is
set to 0)?

Bill



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[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread Mike Goetz


In my bounce messages I entered a little note saying if you feel this 
message has been bounced in error, please contact 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] .   Is there a way 
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[Declude.JunkMail] fromfile problem

2002-09-27 Thread Bill B

I use the fromfile test that was suggested by Tom on this list, which adds a 
weighting for many common items in Spam addresses such as these below:

@ANONYMOUS  @ANONYMOUS
.ANONYMOUS  .ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS.  ANONYMOUS.
ANONYMOUS@  ANONYMOUS@
-ANONYMOUS  -ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS-  ANONYMOUS-
@BOUNCE @BOUNCE
.BOUNCE .BOUNCE
BOUNCE. BOUNCE.
BOUNCE@ BOUNCE@
-BOUNCE -BOUNCE
BOUNCE- BOUNCE-

I use several combinations like this, but I am noticing that the ones which end with 
the @ symbol are not working.  Any ideas why?

Here is an example of one it missed from the logs...

09/27/2002 00:12:29 Qdaac06290108404a BADHEADERS:5 SNIFFER:12 .  Total weight = 17
09/27/2002 00:12:29 Qdaac06290108404a Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was sent from 
a broken mail client [801e].).
09/27/2002 00:12:29 Qdaac06290108404a Msg failed SNIFFER (Message failed SNIFFER: 12.).
09/27/2002 00:12:29 Qdaac06290108404a Msg failed WEIGHTFAIL (Weight of 17 reaches or 
exceeds the limit of 15.).
09/27/2002 00:12:29 Qdaac06290108404a Subject: Double Your Earnings Power...
09/27/2002 00:12:29 Qdaac06290108404a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


...other than that problem, this test has made a great addition by just adding a small 
weighting for addresses that contain these patterns.

Thanks,
Bill


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


I've been trying to understand this discussion about HOP/HOPHIGH. The docs 
describe this as a
feature used when email is internally re-routed. Am I to assume those who 
contributed to this thread
have that type of configuration?

Although it was designed for use with internally re-routed E-mail, it can 
also be used for externally re-routed E-mail.

For example, if E-mail comes directly to your IMail server, you would 
normally have HOP 0 and HOPHIGH 0.  That would scan just the mailserver 
that connects to your IMail server.  For example, if you receive E-mail 
from the IMail Forum, it would scan the IP of Ipswitch's mailserver.

If you changed that to HOPHIGH 1, Declude JunkMail would scan the next hop 
as well.  In the IMail Forum example, it would scan both the IP address of 
the Ipswitch mailserver, as well as the mailserver that connected to it.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


In my bounce messages I entered a little note saying if you feel this 
message has been bounced in error, please contact 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] .   Is there a way 
with the standard version of Declude to make mail go to that address 
regardless of it s intent; spam or valid?

Yes.  :)

Normally, Declude JunkMail Standard doesn't allow per-user 
configurations.  However, you can have a line WHITELIST TO 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file), and it 
will be whitelisted.  Any postmaster@ or abuse@ address can be 
whitelisted, even in the Standard version.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread Mike Goetz








In my bounce messages I entered a little
note saying if you feel this message has been bounced in error, please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. But those people who fail the open
relay tests will not be able to get mail through to that address. Is there a way with the standard
version of Declude to make mail go to that address regardless of its intent;
spam or valid?



Also, another question. We get a lot of government mail that is
being trapped. Usually theyre
addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
. What I did was WHITELIST FROM
@.mil to let all mail from .mil to come through unchallenged. But theyre still getting trapped. Did I not whitelist the domain
correctly?



Thanks!








Re: [Declude.JunkMail] fromfile problem

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


@ANONYMOUS  @ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS@  ANONYMOUS@

I use several combinations like this, but I am noticing that the ones 
which end with the @ symbol are not working.  Any ideas why?

The @ forces Declude JunkMail to use an exact match (that started with 
v1.58, so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wouldn't catch [EMAIL PROTECTED], for 
example).  So ANONYMOUS@ would only match an E-mail address that was just 
ANONYMOUS@.  There is currently no way to specify just a username.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


Also, another question.  We get a lot of government mail that is being 
trapped.  Usually they re addresses like 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
.  What I did was WHITELIST FROM @.mil to let all mail from .mil to come 
through unchallenged.  But they re still getting trapped.  Did I not 
whitelist the domain correctly?

In this case, only mail in the format username@.mil would get 
whitelisted.  Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a way to whitelist 
all *.mil domains.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] fromfile problem

2002-09-27 Thread Bill B

Oh...actually I do remember that being discussed a while back.  Thanks Scott.

Bill



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Sent: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:46:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] fromfile problem



@ANONYMOUS  @ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS@  ANONYMOUS@

I use several combinations like this, but I am noticing that the ones 
which end with the @ symbol are not working.  Any ideas why?

The @ forces Declude JunkMail to use an exact match (that started with 
v1.58, so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wouldn't catch [EMAIL PROTECTED], for 
example).  So ANONYMOUS@ would only match an E-mail address that was just 
ANONYMOUS@.  There is currently no way to specify just a username.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread Bill B

Instead of whitelisting, you could use a wordfilter to add a negative weighting like 
this:

MAILFROM-50 ENDSWITH.mil

Bill


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From: Mike Goetz
Sent: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:50:25 -0400
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address


In my bounce messages I entered a little note saying “if you feel this
message has been bounced in error, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ”.  But those people who fail the open
relay tests will not be able to get mail through to that address.  Is there
a way with the standard version of Declude to make mail go to that address
regardless of it’s intent; spam or valid?

Also, another question.  We get a lot of government mail that is being
trapped.  Usually they’re addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  .  What I did was WHITELIST FROM
@.mil to let all mail from .mil to come through unchallenged.  But they’re
still getting trapped.  Did I not whitelist the domain correctly?

Thanks!


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[Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



Hi;
Version: 
1.61 beta

it seems like any 
email that has attachment is triggering the BASE64 test. We have put a 
weight of 14 hoping the body of the eMail trigger this but now attachments are 
triggering this as well. For example:

This 
eMail:

X-RBL-Warning: 
HELOBOGUS: Domain has no MX/A records.X-RBL-Warning: BASE64: An binary 
encoded text or HTML section was found in this E-mail.X-RBL-Warning: 
WORDFILTER: Message failed WORDFILTER test (217)X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[209.81.57.203]X-Declude-Spoolname: D932e00a901761f57.SMDX-Note: This 
E-mail was scanned by Declude (www.declude.com) for SPAM  
virus.X-Note: This E-mail was sent from 
([209.81.57.203]).X-Spam-Tests-Failed: HELOBOGUS, BASE64, WORDFILTER, 
WEIGHT20, WEIGHT20SX-Weight: 25

had two 
attachments (JPG) and (HTML). The body of the email was not 
encoded.

The weight of 14 
is the single score below marked as SPAM so any other tests failing would mark 
it SPAM. I hate to lower the weight of this test since it works great but 
the attachments are causing problem.

Any way we can 
make this distinction so we can only flag the body of the eMail and not the 
attachments?

Regards,
Kami


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread Sheldon Koehler

 In this case, only mail in the format username@.mil would get
 whitelisted.  Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a way to whitelist
 all *.mil domains.

Wouldn't the correct syntax be:

WHITELIST FROM .mil
and not:
WHITELIST FROM @.mil ?

Sheldon


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Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


it seems like any email that has attachment is triggering the BASE64 
test.  We have put a weight of 14 hoping the body of the eMail trigger 
this but now attachments are triggering this as well.  For example:

Note that the base64 test should apply only to text and/or HTML segments.

This eMail:

X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain  has no MX/A records.
X-RBL-Warning: BASE64: An binary encoded text or HTML section was found in 
this E-mail.
X-RBL-Warning: WORDFILTER: Message failed WORDFILTER test (217)
X-Declude-Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[209.81.57.203]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D932e00a901761f57.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude 
(http://www.declude.comwww.declude.com) for SPAM  virus.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from  ([209.81.57.203]).
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: HELOBOGUS, BASE64, WORDFILTER, WEIGHT20, WEIGHT20S
X-Weight: 25


had two attachments (JPG) and (HTML).  The body of the email was not encoded.

How do you know the body was not encoded?  Did you look at an .mbx file?

Note that the HTML attachment will count towards the base64 test, as HTML 
should never need to be binary encoded.

Any way we can make this distinction so we can only flag the body of the 
eMail and not the attachments?

It's important to realize that with MIME, there is no distinction between 
the body of the E-mail and attachments.  With MIME, the E-mail is divided 
into 1 or more segments, each of which can be text, HTML, a binary file, 
etc.  Some of those may be visible, while others aren't.  With a typical 
Outlook E-mail with a .ZIP attachment, you would have 3 segments:  a text 
segment with the body of the E-mail, an HTML segment with the body of the 
E-mail, and the .ZIP attachment.  Only the HTML (or text, depending on the 
mail client) segment would be visible, while the .ZIP file would appear as 
an attachment.  In this case, the text segment (or HTML) would not be 
visible or even linked to as an attachment.

So MIME can get confusing quite easily.
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-27 Thread Sheldon Koehler

 Next month we plan to release a version that includes compound heuristics.
 At that time we will begin adding white-rule to the database to match
well
 known legitimate lists. We expect this will reduce the problem.

Yippee!!!

Sheldon


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Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting one address

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


  In this case, only mail in the format username@.mil would get
  whitelisted.  Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a way to whitelist
  all *.mil domains.

Wouldn't the correct syntax be:

WHITELIST FROM .mil
and not:
WHITELIST FROM @.mil ?

You are correct -- WHITELIST FROM .mil would whitelist all E-mail from 
@*.mil (and any other addresses with .mil in them, including 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
  -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread Kami Razvan

How did I know the body is not encoded?

For scores of over 20 the system forwards the email to an account that
we check using Outlook Express.  OE is better and easier to use for
looking at the header since you can easily get the properties and then
see the entire body and the header, whereas in Outlook you can't see an
encoded body.

From what I have seen so far, when a message is encoded the body is
really unreadable.  So in OE when you look at the message detail in the
message property window it is all encoded.

In the case of this eMail I saw the HTML body just like other emails but
it had two attachments.  So without the two attachments the body looked
OK.

Now I am probably not looking at the right thing.

Regards,
Kami

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?



it seems like any email that has attachment is triggering the BASE64
test.  We have put a weight of 14 hoping the body of the eMail trigger 
this but now attachments are triggering this as well.  For example:

Note that the base64 test should apply only to text and/or HTML
segments.

This eMail:

X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain  has no MX/A records.
X-RBL-Warning: BASE64: An binary encoded text or HTML section was found

in
this E-mail.
X-RBL-Warning: WORDFILTER: Message failed WORDFILTER test (217)
X-Declude-Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[209.81.57.203]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D932e00a901761f57.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude 
(http://www.declude.comwww.declude.com) for SPAM  virus.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from  ([209.81.57.203]).
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: HELOBOGUS, BASE64, WORDFILTER, WEIGHT20, WEIGHT20S
X-Weight: 25


had two attachments (JPG) and (HTML).  The body of the email was not 
encoded.

How do you know the body was not encoded?  Did you look at an .mbx file?

Note that the HTML attachment will count towards the base64 test, as
HTML 
should never need to be binary encoded.

Any way we can make this distinction so we can only flag the body of 
the
eMail and not the attachments?

It's important to realize that with MIME, there is no distinction
between 
the body of the E-mail and attachments.  With MIME, the E-mail is
divided 
into 1 or more segments, each of which can be text, HTML, a binary file,

etc.  Some of those may be visible, while others aren't.  With a typical

Outlook E-mail with a .ZIP attachment, you would have 3 segments:  a
text 
segment with the body of the E-mail, an HTML segment with the body of
the 
E-mail, and the .ZIP attachment.  Only the HTML (or text, depending on
the 
mail client) segment would be visible, while the .ZIP file would appear
as 
an attachment.  In this case, the text segment (or HTML) would not be 
visible or even linked to as an attachment.

So MIME can get confusing quite easily.
   -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread R. Scott Perry


How did I know the body is not encoded?

For scores of over 20 the system forwards the email to an account that
we check using Outlook Express.  OE is better and easier to use for
looking at the header since you can easily get the properties and then
see the entire body and the header, whereas in Outlook you can't see an
encoded body.

OE lets you see the raw E-mail, including the encoding?  I didn't realize that.

 From what I have seen so far, when a message is encoded the body is
really unreadable.  So in OE when you look at the message detail in the
message property window it is all encoded.

In the case of this eMail I saw the HTML body just like other emails but
it had two attachments.  So without the two attachments the body looked
OK.

Now I am probably not looking at the right thing.

It sounds like you are looking at the right thing -- with base64 encoding, 
the MIME segment will display in a human-readable format, but when looking 
at the raw E-mail, it won't be human-readable.

But, if one of the attachments was HTML (and had a Content-type: 
text/HTML MIME header), and was base64 encoded, then it would still 
trigger the test.
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread Joshua Levitsky

- Original Message -
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?


 OE lets you see the raw E-mail, including the encoding?  I didn't realize
that.

Just right click on the email and pick properties and then on the Details
tab there is a button that says Message Source. It is the raw message if you
click on that.

--
Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, MCSA, CISSP, EMTD, MCP+I, MCP
Desktop Systems Engineer
AOL Time Warner

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH

2002-09-27 Thread Dan Patnode

Keith,


Have a look at this top bit from a spam's header:

 Received: from msins1.mseedi.com [210.94.172.180] by email.inhouseit.com with ESMTP
   (SMTPD32-7.13) id A238BC10058; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 05:42:32 -0700
 Received: from mpovy.earthlink.net (65.100.240.33 [65.100.240.33]) by 
msins1.mseedi.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 
5.5.1960.3)


Received lines are added chronologically from the bottom up.  In this example, the 
email was sent from a US West server (65.100.240.33) and bounced off an open relay 
server in Seoul Korea (210.94.172.180).  With a HOPHIGH of 0, Declude's IP tests 
(including external black lists like SpamHaus) examine only the last/top IP in the 
chain.  If the US West IP was blacklisted, it would not be seen.  With a HOPHIGH of 1, 
Declude examines both IPs in the chain and either (OR, not AND) IP can trigger a test. 
 This is a killer feature and not one I've seen on other systems.


Dan



On Friday, September 27, 2002 6:30, Keith Purtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been trying to understand this discussion about HOP/HOPHIGH. The docs describe 
this as a
feature used when email is internally re-routed. Am I to assume
those who contributed to this thread
have that type of configuration?

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOPHIGH


Bill,

Mine is set to 2 (for a total of 3).  I started at 0, then 1
and found that spam still got around my
filters that would have been caught at 2.  I changed it to 2 4+
months ago and haven't looked back.
Your mileage may vary.  I haven't seen a need to set it at 3.

Dan



On Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:19, Bill B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How affective is scanning at multiple Hops?  I'm not setting
HOPHIGH right now...but I'm currious if the people who are
using it are seeing its benefits, or if it is causing them any
problems.

And what is the recommended HOPHIGH setting (assuming HOP is
set to 0)?

Bill



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread Shane Thoney

You can actually view the header in Outlook.  You just right click the
message in your inbox and then select options.  At the bottom of the options
window is all the header information.  (At least most of it)

Shane Thoney

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Levitsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

- Original Message -
From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?


 OE lets you see the raw E-mail, including the encoding?  I didn't realize
that.

Just right click on the email and pick properties and then on the Details
tab there is a button that says Message Source. It is the raw message if you
click on that.

--
Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, MCSA, CISSP, EMTD, MCP+I, MCP
Desktop Systems Engineer
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

2002-09-27 Thread Eje Gustafsson

Actually you can see even more then that..

File-Details  (or right click on the message in the inbox)
Click on the details tab and hit the message source button. Now you
have the entire e-mail source to read (or copy and paste to submit to
spamcop ;P )

/ Eje

Friday, September 27, 2002, 5:33:41 PM, you wrote:

ST You can actually view the header in Outlook.  You just right click the
ST message in your inbox and then select options.  At the bottom of the options
ST window is all the header information.  (At least most of it)

ST Shane Thoney

ST -Original Message-
ST From: Joshua Levitsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
ST Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:45 PM
ST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ST Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?

ST - Original Message -
ST From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ST Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:43 PM
ST Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 problem!?


 OE lets you see the raw E-mail, including the encoding?  I didn't realize
ST that.

ST Just right click on the email and pick properties and then on the Details
ST tab there is a button that says Message Source. It is the raw message if you
ST click on that.

ST --
ST Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, MCSA, CISSP, EMTD, MCP+I, MCP
ST Desktop Systems Engineer
ST AOL Time Warner

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