RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EXE files, again!

2003-01-08 Thread Bill Beach
Anyone have good links?

From http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/whitepapers/prevention.html

Block receiving/sending of executable code
There is very little need for executable code to be received or sent. In
most instances it is also illegal, usually breaching the software copyright.
Some people are fond of using self-extracting ZIP files to send compressed
data files: for security reasons using statically compressed ZIPs (which
need PKUNZIP to be decompressed) is a much better solution.

The blocking of executable code transfer is often best achieved on the
internet gateway. Unfortunately, it is impossible to detect executable code
with 100% certainty by analysing either the file content or the file
extension. However, blocking files with executable extensions such as EXE,
VBS, SHS etc. contributes to overall anti-virus measures.

User education also plays a significant part in preventing infections by
executable code received by email: the temptation to install a cute
screensaver can be very, very high for a PC user who is not security aware.

From http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/safehex.html

Block any unwanted file types at the email gateway. Viruses often use file
types such as VBS, SHS, EXE, SCR, CHM and BAT to spread. It is unlikely that
your organisation will ever need to receive files of these types from the
outside. If this is the case Sophos recommends blocking all of them at the
email gateway - whether they are virus infected or not.

HTH

-B

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A line in one of my filter text filesdidn 't fire 't fire 't fire 't fire

2003-01-08 Thread R. Scott Perry


I'll include the whole spam message in an attachment here.


This actually does turn out to be an issue with Declude JunkMail, where it 
wasn't scanning as far into the E-mail as it should.  This will be fixed in 
the next release (an interim release is available if anyone needs the fix 
right away).
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EXE files, again!

2003-01-08 Thread Sheldon Koehler
 Anyone have good links?

 From http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/whitepapers/prevention.html
 From http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/safehex.html


Thanks Bill. I plan on making another web page to go along with this one:
http://www.tenforward.com/support/viruspage.php


Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
to pause and reflect. Mark Twain


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[Declude.JunkMail] Contact at Spamcop

2003-01-08 Thread Sheldon Koehler
One of our users sent a mass email to customers of his (hiding nothing and
legit headers, subject and so on) and was reported to Spamcop. Does anyone
have an email address for them that goes to a real human so I can clear this
up?

And what do people charge for mail list hosting?

Sheldon


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Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Contact at Spamcop

2003-01-08 Thread R. Scott Perry


One of our users sent a mass email to customers of his (hiding nothing and
legit headers, subject and so on) and was reported to Spamcop. Does anyone
have an email address for them that goes to a real human so I can clear this
up?


If only a single person reported him, the IP should be removed very quickly 
(I believe within 30-60 minutes).

Although there is an address that will reach someone at Spamcop, I don't 
believe they manually remove entries.  Hopefully, they will start including 
the ratio of spam-to-legitimate-mail in their TXT records, which would 
prevent problems such as this.
  -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Admin Web for Declude

2003-01-08 Thread John Tolmachoff








We are pleased to
announce our Admin Web for Declude.



This is an add-on
for Declude products, including JunkMail, Virus and Hijack.



This allows an
administrator or someone he/she designates to be able to view and edit the Declude
configurations through a web interface.



Currently, this
can be viewed on our lab server located at http://64.171.65.24/WebAdmin. The user
name is declude and the password is declude. If you need to use a domain, use
64.171.65.24.



This is a temporary
site and will be moved within the next few days to a test server. Also, the log
views have not yet been completed.



We intend to have
a beta ready by Monday.



Please e-mail me
off list with any specific comments, questions or suggestions. 



John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA

IT Manager, Network Engineer

211 E. Imperial Hwy, Suite 106

Fullerton, CA 92835

562-694-4800, ext. 104

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.reliancesoft.com












RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyall_account

2003-01-08 Thread R. Scott Perry


Scott, the copyall_account is still showing up in the logs


OK.


although else where it is showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Where is it showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]?


How can I get it to not scan twice if it is still showing copyall_account?


The E-mail will only be scanned once, and no actions should be taken based 
on the copyall account (see below, though).  However, you will see the log 
file entries for the copyall account, as it is one of the recipients of the 
E-mail.  Kind of like user aliases and host aliases, it can get a bit 
confusing keeping track of all the possibilities.

(I do have a ruleprocess.junkmail file in a reliance.net folder under
Declude. But the log shows it is still using the global one.)


With the next interim release, no actions will be taken for the copyall 
account.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyall_account

2003-01-08 Thread John Tolmachoff
 although else where it is showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Where is it showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

In the virus notifications:

Declude Virus v1.65i15 caught the : W32/Lentin.H@mm virus in love.scr from
[Forged] to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The E-mail will only be scanned once, and no actions should be taken based
 on the copyall account (see below, though).  However, you will see the log
 file entries for the copyall account, as it is one of the recipients of
the
 E-mail.  Kind of like user aliases and host aliases, it can get a bit
 confusing keeping track of all the possibilities.

OK.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EXE files, again!

2003-01-08 Thread Karen Oland
Unfortunately, failure to run AV programs at the client side (as well as at
the mail server) has crippled the legitimate sending of .EXE files through
email (which we commonly used to do -- our users are unsophisticated and
have trouble extracting updates out of their email if zipped first).  We
violate absolutely zero licenses in our distributions (licensed zip program
for creating self-extracting emails).  Instead, we have to resort to posting
the exe, sending out an email, then walking the user through the download
and execution on the phone (sure, we had to talk to them before, but AFTER
they downloaded the EXE across their crappy dial-up connection). Trying to
explain ZIP files -- forget it, you have to walk them through finding a
freeware ZIP program, installing it, possibly rebooting, then unzipping the
download and extracting it -- this is why we started using EXE files long
ago.  I guess the next step in the progress of email is we'll go back to
mailing out diskettes (which had the benefit of not having to explain that
the EXE and the unzipped files did not BOTH fit on a diskette).

Set up an area that your old lady customer can upload her cute EXE files
(or document how to use one of the free sites) and set up clear
documentation that any 50 year old can follow (not that a kid can follow) on
how to link the file in an email.  Explain the benefit of not worrying if
the receiver's mailbox is full or having to wait when sending the cute file
to all her friends for it to be uploaded once per receiver.

K Oland

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 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:44 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EXE files, again!


  Anyone have good links?
 
  From http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/whitepapers/prevention.html
  From http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/safehex.html


 Thanks Bill. I plan on making another web page to go along with this one:
 http://www.tenforward.com/support/viruspage.php


 Sheldon


 Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
 Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
 Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

 Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
 to pause and reflect. Mark Twain


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Copyall_account

2003-01-08 Thread R. Scott Perry


 Where is it showing up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

In the virus notifications:

Declude Virus v1.65i15 caught the : W32/Lentin.H@mm virus in love.scr from
[Forged] to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]


That's the %ALLRECIPS% variable -- it will be fixed in the next release 
(neither [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor copyall_account will be shown, since 
the sender shouldn't know about the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address).
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] SMTP2

2003-01-08 Thread John Tolmachoff
What does this line mean please?

01/08/2003 15:15:52  Passing to SMTP2: -qr

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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[Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS - WHY?

2003-01-08 Thread Darrell L.
I had this piece of mail fail the helobogus test.  I am wondering why?
Here are the message headers.

Received: from babel.avstarnews.com [12.24.201.132] by
mail1.gannett-tv.com 
with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.12) id A6A397880132; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 17:30:59 -0500
Received: by BABEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
id CRNNAKGW; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:29:30 -0600
Message-ID: 449249DE8813D711907B0090273F213704E08D@BABEL
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: x [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Server Remirroring Procedure
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:29:26 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)   

Darrell LaRock



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP2

2003-01-08 Thread R. Scott Perry


What does this line mean please?

01/08/2003 15:15:52  Passing to SMTP2: -qr


It means that Declude has been called with just one parameter that starts 
with -, and is not a command that Declude recognizes as an internal 
command.  This will be shown in the logs at LOGLEVEL HIGH when -qr is 
sent by IMail for a queue run.
   -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Ipswitch Newsletter

2003-01-08 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Hello Michael,

Looks like your giving mail that fail the spamheaders test a negative
1 in weight. Funny that ipswitch's newsletter fails this test..
At least it's not a message or newsletter from Scott now that would be
really REALLY amusing consider the guys skills and knowledge ;)

-Eje

ML Either I am doing something wrong or this is worth a chuckle.

ML Received: from newman.ipswitch.com [156.21.1.4] by ucopiannetworks.com with
ML ESMTP
ML   (SMTPD32-6.05) id ACC42F4B00CA; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:21:56 -0500
ML Received: from CAMPAIGN [156.21.1.4] by newman.ipswitch.com
ML   (SMTPD32-7.12) id A2E2AE027A; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:50:10 -0500
ML From: Tamara Hart, Ipswitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ML To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ML Subject: Your Ipswitch Newsletter - January Edition
ML Date: WED, 08 JAN 2003 13:50:10 -0400
ML MIME-Version: 1.0
ML Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ML Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Boundary..
ML Message-Id: 200301081350968.SM00206@CAMPAIGN
ML X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [156.21.1.4]
ML X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Ucopian JunkMail
ML (www.ucopiannetworks.com) for spam.
ML X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SPAMHEADERS [-1]
ML X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ML X-UIDL: 342055870
ML Status: U

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Pots Kettles in the Clair de Lune

2003-01-08 Thread Sanford Whiteman
All,

A  noteworthy  encounter  with  the  officious  admin of a combination
draconian/broken  server.  I  think my state of mind will be picked up
pretty  quickly  from  the following snippet. IPs and hosts changed to
protect  the not-so-innocent--including us, since I did screw up, too,
but STILL...

 ...our  firewall  does a reverse lookup. mail.clientco.com resolves
 as  1.1.1.1...Since  these  two  IP  addresses  do  not  match, our
 firewall rejects the connection...
 
 This  strict  constraint is certainly not evident from the 421 message
 returned by your server.
 
 Moreover,  your  own mail servers do not meet this requirement! Your
 mail server at 2.2.2.2 uses EHLO text--
 
 EHLO [3.3.3.3]
 
 --a violation of your own requirement, since the PTR, ptr.draco.com,
 does  not  even  have  an A record at all. If ClientCo employed your
 policy, *they* would reject *your* mail!
 
 This  EHLO  is  also  a  violation of RFC 2821, which states that an
 address  literal is only allowed if a host has no name (3.3.3.3 does
 have  a PTR record, and therefore does have a name), and a violation
 of the common test to see if EHLO and PTR match (since a PTR cannot,
 by definition, resolve to an address literal).

 Though  I  appreciate  the  anti-spam utility of deeply verifying EHLO
 arguments,  returning  a  4xx  code  rather  than a 5xx undermines any
 educational  utility,  wasting  everybody's  bandwidth  and delaying
 issue  resolution.  And  if  you  should  have occasion to review this
 policy  in  the  future,  I do hope you consider that your own systems
 violate it. :)
 
 Sincerely yours,
 
 Sandy

-Sandy



Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist
Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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