[Declude.JunkMail] WHITELIST HELO- revisited

2003-06-02 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



Scott:
 
You mentioned 
earlier that you do not think that WHITELIST HELO be something that should be 
used too often.  Could you please elaborate on this.  
Why?
 
Can HELO be faked 
easily?
 
We deal with a lot 
with universities and government agencies as well as various clients with 
military emails in our engineering company. [.edu, .gov, 
.mil]
 
We had added .gov 
as a WHITELIST.
 
WHITELIST HELO 
.gov
 
of course recently 
we found out something that caught my eyes.  A junkmail got through with 
the following HELO
 
something.gov.something
 
Can the HELO have 
something like ENDSWITH so we can make sure this does not 
happen.
 
This can also help 
with big companies that one does not get spam from.
 
Microsoft.com, 
ibm.com, oracle.com, etc.
 
the problem with 
current HELO is if I do:
 
WHITELIST HELO 
.microsoft.com
 
It will also 
whitelist
 
.microsoft.comISNOT.biz
 
Of course this all 
depends on your answer for why do you think this is not a good 
idea.
 
Regards,
Kami
 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Omar K.
Sorry to that, but im curious, what brand of HD should we be avoiding?

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And I would have seen it too had I not spent the whole night rebuilding 
my server because my RAID array lost 2 of the 3 drives at the same 
time. Thanks for the info.

-Josh

On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 06:42  PM, Sanford Whiteman wrote:

> That  feature already exists--has for quite a while--and is documented
> in the manual! In GLOBAL.CFG:
>
> IPBYPASS your.backup.mx.ip

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Thank you sooo much. I had a total failure of my RAID array on my mail 
server. I was up all night last night fixing it and when I replaced the 
drives, re-installed windows, restored from backup, and then got back 
online I found that I didn't know how to get Declude to do that and 
since I had to get to a parade in NYC to work EMS today at 7am it is so 
nice to come home to find the answer already exists. Sorry I was so 
exhausted I didn't go through the manual.

You are the best!

-Josh

On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 06:29  PM, R. Scott Perry wrote:

Yes, there could be.  :)

Declude JunkMail can do this, by adding an IPBYPASS line in the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file with the IP address of the backup 
mailserver.  For example, you could add a line "IPBYPASS 192.0.2.25", 
so that mail coming from 192.0.2.25 would get scanned as if Declude 
JunkMail was running on that server (scanning the IP of the mailserver 
that connected to 192.0.2.25).
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Joshua Levitsky
And I would have seen it too had I not spent the whole night rebuilding 
my server because my RAID array lost 2 of the 3 drives at the same 
time. Thanks for the info.

-Josh

On Sunday, June 1, 2003, at 06:42  PM, Sanford Whiteman wrote:

That  feature already exists--has for quite a while--and is documented
in the manual! In GLOBAL.CFG:
IPBYPASS your.backup.mx.ip
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> What about HOP.  Is that obsolete?

HOP  is  for  permanent,  full-time skips; IPBYPASS skips specific IPs
that may not always connect (such as backup MXs).

-Sandy



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Don Brown
What about HOP.  Is that obsolete?


Sunday, June 1, 2003, 5:29:15 PM, R. Scott Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>Could there be a feature where you could put in the IPs / DNS names of 
>>secondary MX servers and when mail comes from them it doesn't do RBL 
>>against that IP, but rather the IP that delivered the mail to the 
>>secondary. So the spam tests still work.

RSP> Yes, there could be.  :)

RSP> Declude JunkMail can do this, by adding an IPBYPASS line in the 
RSP> \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file with the IP address of the backup 
RSP> mailserver.  For example, you could add a line "IPBYPASS 192.0.2.25", so 
RSP> that mail coming from 192.0.2.25 would get scanned as if Declude JunkMail 
RSP> was running on that server (scanning the IP of the mailserver that 
RSP> connected to 192.0.2.25).

RSP> -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> Could  there be a feature where you could put in the IPs / DNS names
> of  secondary MX servers and when mail comes from them it doesn't do
> RBL  against  that  IP, but rather the IP that delivered the mail to
> the secondary. So the spam tests still work.

That  feature already exists--has for quite a while--and is documented
in the manual! In GLOBAL.CFG:

IPBYPASS your.backup.mx.ip

>From http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm:

> Skipping  your  backup mail server

> If  you  have a backup mail server, the normal E-mail routing can be
> changed. Rather than remote mail servers delivering mail directly to
> the  primary  mail  server,  the  mail  can sometimes go through the
> backup. In this case, Declude will by default scan the IP address of
> your  backup  server  (since  it doesn't know that it is your backup
> mail  server).

> Declude  JunkMail [Standard and Pro versions only] can still work in
> this  situation.  To  handle  this,  you  can  add  a  line  to  the
> \IMail\Declude\global.cfg   file  that  says  "IPBYPASS  192.0.2.25"
> (where  192.0.2.25  is  your backup mail server). Using the IPBYPASS
> configuration   option,   Declude  will  skip  over  that  hop,  and
> automatically start scanning based on the IP of the mail server that
> connected  to the backup mail server. You can have up to 20 IPBYPASS
> lines in the global.cfg file.

-Sandy



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread R. Scott Perry

Could there be a feature where you could put in the IPs / DNS names of 
secondary MX servers and when mail comes from them it doesn't do RBL 
against that IP, but rather the IP that delivered the mail to the 
secondary. So the spam tests still work.
Yes, there could be.  :)

Declude JunkMail can do this, by adding an IPBYPASS line in the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file with the IP address of the backup 
mailserver.  For example, you could add a line "IPBYPASS 192.0.2.25", so 
that mail coming from 192.0.2.25 would get scanned as if Declude JunkMail 
was running on that server (scanning the IP of the mailserver that 
connected to 192.0.2.25).

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[Declude.JunkMail] Accounting for secondary MX

2003-06-02 Thread Joshua Levitsky
I have a secondary MX record for all my domains that goes to a windows 
2003 server running the SMTP server configured for remote domains. 
Basically mail queues up and it waits until my primary server comes 
online and then delivers the mail. The problem with this is that my 
RBLs don't work because of course dc1.joshie.com is not in any RBL, and 
the mail is coming from there when the Imail server was down or was so 
busy it refused a connection and the mail went to the secondary.

Could there be a feature where you could put in the IPs / DNS names of 
secondary MX servers and when mail comes from them it doesn't do RBL 
against that IP, but rather the IP that delivered the mail to the 
secondary. So the spam tests still work.

-Josh

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