[Declude.JunkMail] WHITELISTFILE Logging issue

2003-06-14 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Scott,

I noticed the following error in my log file today. I am running LOGLEVEL
HIGH

06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Using [incoming] CFG file
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Skipping E-mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
whitelisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Warning: misconfiguration in following
line in configuration file (D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt is not an
ACTION). May be a duplicate test definition?


This is the line in the $default$.junkmail
WHITELISTFILE D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt


Looking at this log fragment the whitelist is working but the pass checking
actions does not like the WHITELISTFILE line in the .junkmail file.


Kevin Bilbee

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS

2003-06-14 Thread Markus Gufler
 And I have nothing for the recip.eml file, so I would like 
 suggestions on that one as well. (I screwed up earlier in the 
 week and deleted them all... I should know better than to do 
 work when I have the flu...).

At the moment I can't find any other virusname to skip.

For the recip.eml I've set 
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability

And I've creted a new vulnerability.eml with
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE Vulnerability

So I can send out two different warnings for a real virus and a
vulnerability warning.

Markus

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam domains shaw.ca?

2003-06-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Customer emails do not get through and they blame me for it... This
happens
 mostly with hosted domains on their system. This has been going on for
about
 2 years. Emails have never been responded to. Very frustrating!

Gotcha, sites hosted with them. I have heard only good things about their
Internet Access.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS

2003-06-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 At the moment I can't find any other virusname to skip.
 
 For the recip.eml I've set
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability
 
 And I've creted a new vulnerability.eml with
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE Vulnerability
 
 So I can send out two different warnings for a real virus and a
 vulnerability warning.

Same here.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WHITELISTFILE Logging issue

2003-06-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 This is the line in the $default$.junkmail
 WHITELISTFILE D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt
 
 
 Looking at this log fragment the whitelist is working but the pass
checking
 actions does not like the WHITELISTFILE line in the .junkmail file.

I am not familiar with this test yet, but unless WHITELISTFILE is a
predetermined test in declude, you need to have it in Global.cfg.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WHITELISTFILE Logging issue

2003-06-14 Thread Bill Landry
Sounds like you may have duplicate entries in your global.cfg file for:

WHITELISTFILE D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:34 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] WHITELISTFILE Logging issue


 Scott,

 I noticed the following error in my log file today. I am running LOGLEVEL
 HIGH

 06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Using [incoming] CFG file
 D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
 06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Skipping E-mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 whitelisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Warning: misconfiguration in
following
 line in configuration file (D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt is not an
 ACTION). May be a duplicate test definition?


 This is the line in the $default$.junkmail
 WHITELISTFILE D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt


 Looking at this log fragment the whitelist is working but the pass
checking
 actions does not like the WHITELISTFILE line in the .junkmail file.


 Kevin Bilbee

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] WHITELISTFILE Logging issue

2003-06-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

06/13/2003 09:54:56 Q01dd03c7027e1f3c Warning: misconfiguration in following
line in configuration file (D:\IMail\Declude\Whitelist.txt is not an
ACTION). May be a duplicate test definition?
There is an issue where this warning could appear even though it shouldn't 
-- the next release will take care of it.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail hiccup

2003-06-14 Thread R. Scott Perry

So, just wanted to let you know that you can get messages that skip Junkmail
processing if they come in as you are going down for maint.  Perhaps for
scheduled things, there should be a recommended procedure to shut down the
IMAIL services for a few minutes first, until the queue is all delivered
(not that it will help during random or emergency shutdowns -- power outages
here sometimes result in unscheduled reboots).
That actually is the recommend procedure, although I haven't seen anyone 
discuss it.

Simply stopping the IMail SMTP service will prevent new E-mail from 
arriving, but won't cause Declude or the SMTP32.exe delivery process to 
stop.  If you shut down without waiting, some unusual things can happen 
(without Declude, it would typically be duplicate E-mails, 1 or 2 hour 
delivery delays, and possibly corrupt E-mails).

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT - Challenge/Response Systems

2003-06-14 Thread brian

Here is something for your weekend list of things to ponder...

I heard from a potential customer (small ISP) yesterday that tried a
Challenge/Response system for 4 hours.

Here is what happened (as best as I can explain it).

He implements the Challenge/Response system.

A few of his users send emails to others whose ISPs are also using a
(presumably different) Challenge/Response system.

The remote systems receive the messages his users sent, and send out Challenge
messages. 

His server received the Challenge messages and it sent out Challenge messages
of its own back to the address on remote server that sent the Challenge
message. No human ever sees any of the messages.

This is bad enough, but it also works in reverse, and this is how he found
about the problem. 

Users of some remote system using Challenge/Response send his users messages
and his system generates Challenge messages. The remote server receives the
Challenge messages and sends new Challenge messages back to his server. His
server sends back bounce messages because his Challenge messages were sent
from a no-reply account. Then his server receives Challenge messages to the
bounce messages and generates bounce messages of it's own.

He notices that there are several hundred Challenge and bounce messages going
both ways repeatedly after a few hours, and he has to shut it down and kill
the reply accounts to stop the loop.

Don't know if it actually stopped any spam ;)

Brian

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Challenge/Response Systems

2003-06-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Users of some remote system using Challenge/Response send his users
 messages
 and his system generates Challenge messages. The remote server receives
the
 Challenge messages and sends new Challenge messages back to his server.
His
 server sends back bounce messages because his Challenge messages were sent
 from a no-reply account. Then his server receives Challenge messages to
the
 bounce messages and generates bounce messages of it's own.
 
 He notices that there are several hundred Challenge and bounce messages
going
 both ways repeatedly after a few hours, and he has to shut it down and
kill
 the reply accounts to stop the loop.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO LOL

ROFLOL

Sorry, but it serves them right. This whole Challenge/Response system all
automated is not well enough thought out. It's like taking the lazy mans way
of doing things.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS

2003-06-14 Thread Joshua Levitsky


 At the moment I can't find any other virusname to skip.
 
 For the recip.eml I've set
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS Vulnerability
 
 And I've creted a new vulnerability.eml with
 SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE Vulnerability
 
 So I can send out two different warnings for a real virus and a
 vulnerability warning.

I have seen it discussed as something some wanted, but I never saw anything
talking about being able to use a vulnerability.eml file in a release of
Declude. I tried searching the archives but vulnerability.eml actually
shows every email with vulnerability in it which is a lot of mail. Also I
didn't see anything on declude.com/Virus/manual.htm about it.

Is this in 1.70beta ? Is it new?

-Josh

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS

2003-06-14 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 I have seen it discussed as something some wanted, but I never saw
anything
 talking about being able to use a vulnerability.eml file in a release of
 Declude. I tried searching the archives but vulnerability.eml actually
 shows every email with vulnerability in it which is a lot of mail. Also
I
 didn't see anything on declude.com/Virus/manual.htm about it.
 
 Is this in 1.70beta ? Is it new?

It is not new, but included as of about 1.65 I think. I use it quite
successfully.

Here is my vulnerability.eml file:

___
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE  Vulnerability
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: %ALLRECIPS%,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We blocked an e-mail sent to you!

Delivery blocked: %ALLRECIPS%

The mail server for %LOCALHOST% scans each e-mail for Viruses, SPAM (Junk
Mail) and e-mail vulnerabilities.

We caught an e-mail addressed to you that is formatted with %VIRUSNAME%, and
have quarantined it for your protection.

If you recognize the below information as a valid e-mail that you want or
should have received, please let us know. Otherwise, the e-mail will be
deleted after 3 days.

FROM: %MAILFROM%
TO: %ALLRECIPS%
SUBJECT: %SUBJECT%
Remote IP: %REMOTEIP%

DATE: %DATE% @ %TIME%

SPOOL FILE: %QUEUENAME%

Headers of the e-mail in question:

%HEADERS%
___

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
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[Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout

2003-06-14 Thread Markus Gufler
Hi all, 

I'm not sure about this, but I've seen some spam messages coming from
domains contained in our sd-file. (hotmail.com) However the messages
hasn't failed the SPAMDOMAINS test.

For example from the Sender-IP: 218.25.255.18

Can it be, because it's not possible to finish the REVDNS-query?

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=218.25.255.18


Question? 
If it's so, that a timeout in a REVDNS-query doesn't trigger the test,
can we change this, so that a timeout triggers the test? 
What if a query for a legit sender-IP times out?
Why a REVDNS-query can time out? Isn't so, that any reachable IP is
assigned to someone?

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout

2003-06-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
Markus,

The idea is, that we don't want to block VALID email.  So, if a reverse
lookup times out, there is no way to determine if there is no valid match
and we can't just assume that it is SPAM.

Time-outs could be temporary problems with a particular DNS server, it could
be a routing problem on the Internet - any number of reasons.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 09:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout


Hi all, 

I'm not sure about this, but I've seen some spam messages coming from
domains contained in our sd-file. (hotmail.com) However the messages hasn't
failed the SPAMDOMAINS test.

For example from the Sender-IP: 218.25.255.18

Can it be, because it's not possible to finish the REVDNS-query?

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=218.25.255.18


Question? 
If it's so, that a timeout in a REVDNS-query doesn't trigger the test, can
we change this, so that a timeout triggers the test? 
What if a query for a legit sender-IP times out?
Why a REVDNS-query can time out? Isn't so, that any reachable IP is assigned
to someone?

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS

2003-06-14 Thread Andy Schmidt
I decided against notifying the recipient for Vulnerabilities.  Apparently,
vulnerabilities are essentially spam - and notifying the recipient would
mean that they end up getting an unwanted message after all.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 03:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS


 I have seen it discussed as something some wanted, but I never saw
anything
 talking about being able to use a vulnerability.eml file in a release 
 of Declude. I tried searching the archives but vulnerability.eml 
 actually shows every email with vulnerability in it which is a lot 
 of mail. Also
I
 didn't see anything on declude.com/Virus/manual.htm about it.
 
 Is this in 1.70beta ? Is it new?

It is not new, but included as of about 1.65 I think. I use it quite
successfully.

Here is my vulnerability.eml file:

___
SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEDOESNOTHAVE  Vulnerability
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: %ALLRECIPS%,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: We blocked an e-mail sent to you!

Delivery blocked: %ALLRECIPS%

The mail server for %LOCALHOST% scans each e-mail for Viruses, SPAM (Junk
Mail) and e-mail vulnerabilities.

We caught an e-mail addressed to you that is formatted with %VIRUSNAME%, and
have quarantined it for your protection.

If you recognize the below information as a valid e-mail that you want or
should have received, please let us know. Otherwise, the e-mail will be
deleted after 3 days.

FROM: %MAILFROM%
TO: %ALLRECIPS%
SUBJECT: %SUBJECT%
Remote IP: %REMOTEIP%

DATE: %DATE% @ %TIME%

SPOOL FILE: %QUEUENAME%

Headers of the e-mail in question:

%HEADERS%
___

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


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DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout

2003-06-14 Thread Rifat Levis
Here is a comment on the web site www.dnsreport.com
When you check a site on this web site the first revdns check can fail and
the explanation is as follow

--
Reverse DNS entries for MX records
 This may be a false positive due to the nasty BIND bug (client side) that
causes reverse DNS entries to fail the first time (if you ever see long
delays in reverse DNS lookups, that's because of this bug). You can
double-check using the 'Reverse DNS Lookup' tool at the DNSstuff site.

I have too many timeout when cheking the first time REVDNS for non-existing
revdns .

Rifat Levis





- Original Message - 
From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 4:21 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains lookup timeout


Hi all,

I'm not sure about this, but I've seen some spam messages coming from
domains contained in our sd-file. (hotmail.com) However the messages
hasn't failed the SPAMDOMAINS test.

For example from the Sender-IP: 218.25.255.18

Can it be, because it's not possible to finish the REVDNS-query?

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=218.25.255.18


Question?
If it's so, that a timeout in a REVDNS-query doesn't trigger the test,
can we change this, so that a timeout triggers the test?
What if a query for a legit sender-IP times out?
Why a REVDNS-query can time out? Isn't so, that any reachable IP is
assigned to someone?

Markus


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