RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Sean Fahey
Sadly, we too have seen a sudden influx of spam using the standard edition.

>>>

>>RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.


>>Thanks for all the responses. First Kami we don't have the Pro version so
we
>>can't use customized filters but I can use your from files in addition to
>>the ones that I am already using. I use a from file that I update manually

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

I do have a whitelist with about 50 entries but these
are known domain names and email addresses that I have verified personally.
Are any of them your domains?  For example, if we were to whitelist 
@declude.com, we would receive a lot more spam (because many spammers know 
that people whitelist their own domain).

Scott we don't have a backup mail server so I don't need to use IPBYPASS do I?
No, you only need to use IPBYPASS if a "good" mailserver will be receiving 
the spam and passing it on to you (typically either a gateway mailserver or 
backup mailserver).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karl Hentschel
Thanks for all the responses. First Kami we don't have the Pro version so we
can't use customized filters but I can use your from files in addition to
the ones that I am already using. I use a from file that I update manually
and I also update it using the killlistgen utility from imagefxonline. I
haven't tried using spamchk yet but I'll look into it. Regarding the content
blocking on URL's, is that a customized test because I don't believe it is
included in declude. I do have a whitelist with about 50 entries but these
are known domain names and email addresses that I have verified personally.
Scott we don't have a backup mail server so I don't need to use IPBYPASS do
I? I'll get together some headers to send to you.

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> >There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
> >just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software.

Also, what do you have whitelisted?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Maybe start using the BLACKLIST option.  I've been doing that for a little
while, and it seems to cut back on a lot of spam.  I have them setup with a
20 weight and a ROUTETO my spam account so I can review and see if they're
legit or not..


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karen D. Oland
> >There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
> >just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software.

Also, what do you have whitelisted?
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Over the past several weeks our level of spam has doubled and a good
majority of it isn't failing enough tests to be blocked based on my
settings. The problem is that a good deal of it isn't failing ANY tests or
only helobogus and ipnotinmx.
Are you sure that the other tests are running (for example, mail from a 
backup won't be scanned properly unless you use an IPBYPASS line in the 
global.cfg file)?

There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software.
It sounds like they are being targeted for some reason; most likely, there 
is a pattern to the spams they are receiving (for example, almost all may 
be advertising the same product or service), which means that you'll need 
to come up with filtering for that user.  But, my guess would be a simple 
configuration issue (such as not having a backup listed in the IPBYPASS 
option).

Another option is to send me the complete headers of several spams that 
aren't getting caught; from that, I can often tell if a configuration 
change is necessary.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karen D. Oland
Have you tried content blocking on the URL's in the body?

Or checked the from or RDNS ranges to see if they have anything in common?
Usually, when I've seen this, it is one new spammer, shoving out as many as
possible before their new IP is known and blocked.

K

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> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.
>
>
> Over the past several weeks our level of spam has doubled and a good
> majority of it isn't failing enough tests to be blocked based on my
> settings. The problem is that a good deal of it isn't failing ANY tests or
> only helobogus and ipnotinmx. I can't really block on helobogus
> or ipnotinmx
> alone because I would have a great deal of false positives. One
> test that a
> few of the emails fail is SBL. Is anyone effectively blocking on
> SBL alone?
> Are there any other methods being used other than the declude
> tests? I have
> tried using keywords but it tends to generate too many false positives.
> There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
> just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software. Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Increased SPAM not being blocked.

2003-08-18 Thread Karl Hentschel
Over the past several weeks our level of spam has doubled and a good
majority of it isn't failing enough tests to be blocked based on my
settings. The problem is that a good deal of it isn't failing ANY tests or
only helobogus and ipnotinmx. I can't really block on helobogus or ipnotinmx
alone because I would have a great deal of false positives. One test that a
few of the emails fail is SBL. Is anyone effectively blocking on SBL alone?
Are there any other methods being used other than the declude tests? I have
tried using keywords but it tends to generate too many false positives.
There are a few people who are receiving over 30 spams a day and that is
just unacceptable considering we are running antispam software. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

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[Declude.JunkMail] DLAnalyzer Released

2003-08-18 Thread support
Last month many of the list members asked to test the beta version of
DLAnalyzer...

I wanted to say thank you to everyone that tested DLAnalyzer while it
was in Beta.  There were many excellent suggestions that resulted in
new features in this current release.

The release version is now available from http://www.dlanalyzer.com.

If you have any questions about this log processing tool let me know.

Darrell 
Darrell
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there still a limit on number ofwhitelisted emails?

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Can you also whitelist IPs in that file?
Not at this time.  IPs need to be whitelisted in the global.cfg file with 
the "WHITELIST IP" option.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there still a limit on number of whitelisted emails?

2003-08-18 Thread Chuck Schick
Scott:

Can you also whitelist IPs in that file?

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
303-421-5140
www.warp8.com


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> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there still a limit on number of
> whitelisted emails?
> 
> 
> 
> >I know at one time you could only enter 200 whitelist 
> entries into the
> >Global.cfg file.  Is that still the case?
> 
> Yes.  However, there is a new WHITELISTFILE option in the 
> latest release 
> that lets you have unlimited whitelist entries if necessary 
> (as well as 
> per-user/per-domain whitelisting).  To use it, you would add 
> a line such as 
> "WHITELISTFILE C:\IMail\Declude\whitelist.txt" to any config 
> files that 
> need it (just the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail file, if 
> you do not 
> have per-user or per-domain settings).  The whitelist.txt 
> file would then 
> contain one entry per line, with either a return address 
> ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or a domain ("@example.com").
> 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there still a limit on number ofwhitelisted emails?

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

I know at one time you could only enter 200 whitelist entries into the
Global.cfg file.  Is that still the case?
Yes.  However, there is a new WHITELISTFILE option in the latest release 
that lets you have unlimited whitelist entries if necessary (as well as 
per-user/per-domain whitelisting).  To use it, you would add a line such as 
"WHITELISTFILE C:\IMail\Declude\whitelist.txt" to any config files that 
need it (just the \IMail\Declude\$default$.JunkMail file, if you do not 
have per-user or per-domain settings).  The whitelist.txt file would then 
contain one entry per line, with either a return address 
("[EMAIL PROTECTED]") or a domain ("@example.com").

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[Declude.JunkMail] Is there still a limit on number of whitelisted emails?

2003-08-18 Thread Chuck Schick
I know at one time you could only enter 200 whitelist entries into the
Global.cfg file.  Is that still the case?

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
303-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IP address for REVDNS

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

Seems like that would be dependent on the timing of the test order and when
that line was added.
Scott, can a variable be used in a filter with an equation like this:

HEADER 0 CONTAINS %REVDNS%=64.214.161.171
No, there is not.  However, this is something that we will look into adding.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Getting Country Chain to work

2003-08-18 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi;

I think you also need the all_list.dat file.

Regards,
Kami
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Getting Country Chain to work


I have the Country Chain defined in the global.cfg file but the only thing
that shows up in the headers is:

X-Country-Chain:


No chain, even though I have the variable there.

What am I missing?

David

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[Declude.JunkMail] Getting Country Chain to work

2003-08-18 Thread David Dodell
I have the Country Chain defined in the global.cfg file but the only
thing that shows up in the headers is:

X-Country-Chain:


No chain, even though I have the variable there.

What am I missing?

David

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IP address for REVDNS

2003-08-18 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Seems like that would be dependent on the timing of the test order and when
that line was added.

Scott, can a variable be used in a filter with an equation like this:

HEADER 0 CONTAINS %REVDNS%=64.214.161.171

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com

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Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:49 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] IP address for REVDNS

Scott:
 
The header shows the IP address of REVDNS in the form of:
 
X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail.maskofnoreturn.com([65.214.161.171]).
 
Can the IP address be detected in the HEADER filter?
 
I want to setup a filter if certain IP addresses are listed in the Header. 
Ideally I like to filter on the IP address of the REVDNS entry but since we
can't it seems like the next best thing is to filter the header.
 
Since we started keeping track of the REVDNS IP addresses we are finding
quite a lot of spammers with the same IP address in their REVDNS but
different domain names.  I like to experiment with such a filter and
evaluate the results.
 
Regards,
Kami
 
 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP address for REVDNS

2003-08-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

The header shows the IP address of REVDNS in the form of:

X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS:  mail.maskofnoreturn.com([65.214.161.171]).

Can the IP address be detected in the HEADER filter?

I want to setup a filter if certain IP addresses are listed in the 
Header.  Ideally I like to filter on the IP address of the REVDNS entry 
but since we can't it seems like the next best thing is to filter the header.

Since we started keeping track of the REVDNS IP addresses we are finding 
quite a lot of spammers with the same IP address in their REVDNS but 
different domain names.  I like to experiment with such a filter and 
evaluate the results.
Although you can detect the IP address with the HEADER filter, you could 
instead use REMOTEIP:

REMOTEIP  0  IS  65.214.161.171

or

REMOTEIP  0  CONTAINS  65.214.161.

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[Declude.JunkMail] IP address for REVDNS

2003-08-18 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message



Scott:
 
The header shows 
the IP address of REVDNS in the form of:
 
X-Note: Sent from 
Reverse DNS:  mail.maskofnoreturn.com([65.214.161.171]).
 
Can the IP address 
be detected in the HEADER filter?
 
I want to setup a 
filter if certain IP addresses are listed in the Header.  Ideally I like to 
filter on the IP address of the REVDNS entry but since we can't it seems like 
the next best thing is to filter the header.
 
Since we started 
keeping track of the REVDNS IP addresses we are finding quite a lot of spammers 
with the same IP address in their REVDNS but different domain names.  I 
like to experiment with such a filter and evaluate the 
results.
 
Regards,
Kami