Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Proper Usage of Reverse DNS PTR Records

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

Does anyone have some good documents on the proper usage of reverse DNS PTR
records?
There really aren't, as far as I know.

I am trying to reconcile the class C which is allocated to us but
I don't know which hostname I am supposed to use in the PTR record.
The best advice that I have seen is to use the primary name, or whichever 
is most appropriate for that IP.

For example say I have an IP address 199.218.9.5.  If all of these
hostnames...
acme.com
ftp.acme.com
mail.acme.com
ns1.acme.com
www.acme.com
point to that same IP address, which one of them do use in the Reverse DNS?
In this case, you could pick whichever you wanted to use.

Is there some sort of order of precedence, e.g.

1.  NS - If an IP is being used by a Name Server always use this as the
hostname.
2.  MAIL - If an IP is NOT being used by a Name Server but it is being used
by a Mail Server use this hostname.
3.  WWW - If an IP is NOT being used by a Name Server or Mail Server use
this as the hostname.
etc.
Is there a correct way of doing this?  Or at least a standard convention?
There really isn't any convention, and is up to you to decide.  Most 
reverse DNS entry lookups would likely be from mailservers, so 
mail.acme.com might be the best option (since if an end user sees 
www.acme.com, they might be confused).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

You still have the monkeys.com entries in your default global.cfg.  Didn't
they go dark a few weeks ago?
Thanks for pointing this out -- those tests did indeed go away, and they 
were still in the default config files.  The default config files have been 
updated to reflect this.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's

2003-10-20 Thread Rick Rountree
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. 
> Scott Perry
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's
> 
> The updated global.cfg file defines the tests, which will run 
> them and use 
> them towards the weighting system.  If you also want to take 
> an action 
> based on those tests (such as WARN or HOLD), you would also 
> need to update 
> your $default$.JunkMail file.
> 
> -Scott

Scott,

You still have the monkeys.com entries in your default global.cfg.  Didn't
they go dark a few weeks ago?

Rick Rountree
Dundee.Net


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[Declude.JunkMail] Proper Usage of Reverse DNS PTR Records

2003-10-20 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
Does anyone have some good documents on the proper usage of reverse DNS PTR
records?  I am trying to reconcile the class C which is allocated to us but
I don't know which hostname I am supposed to use in the PTR record.

For example say I have an IP address 199.218.9.5.  If all of these
hostnames...

acme.com
ftp.acme.com
mail.acme.com
ns1.acme.com
www.acme.com

point to that same IP address, which one of them do use in the Reverse DNS?
Is there some sort of order of precedence, e.g.

1.  NS - If an IP is being used by a Name Server always use this as the
hostname.
2.  MAIL - If an IP is NOT being used by a Name Server but it is being used
by a Mail Server use this hostname.
3.  WWW - If an IP is NOT being used by a Name Server or Mail Server use
this as the hostname.
etc.

Is there a correct way of doing this?  Or at least a standard convention?

Thanks, Much!
Dan Geiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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[Declude.JunkMail] spam domains

2003-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Di Gregorio








Does anyone have a current file of domains for the spamdomains
test that they would like to share?

Thanks

 

Jeffrey Di Gregorio

Systems Administrator

Pacific School of Religion

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

510-849-8283

 








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

Yeah I meant the DNS based ones sorry, so in order to get an updated list of
them I just need global.cfg right? not the $defualt.Junkmail$ file??
The updated global.cfg file defines the tests, which will run them and use 
them towards the weighting system.  If you also want to take an action 
based on those tests (such as WARN or HOLD), you would also need to update 
your $default$.JunkMail file.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's

2003-10-20 Thread Timothy C. Bohen
Yeah I meant the DNS based ones sorry, so in order to get an updated list of
them I just need global.cfg right? not the $defualt.Junkmail$ file??

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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's



>What RBL's currently work?

Only one -- see http://www.mail-abuse.org .

If you are talking about DNS-based spam databases, there are lots -- see
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm .

>Is the global.cfg on the declude website up to date with the working ones?

We constantly update the one of the website.  We do not list all spam
databases in there, but have the most popular ones enabled, and have
definitions for most of the others that people are using.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing Declude headers & incorrect weights

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

If you don't mind me asking, what interim release or full
release did the above weighting issue affect?
The weighting issue was introduced in one of the v1.76 interim releases 
(1.76i5, I believe), so it affected very few people.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing Declude headers & incorrect weights

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

> >Okay, I'll buy that--although I not sure how you determined it, since the
> >message displays properly in Outlook Express.
>
> That's probably because the CR or LF will get translated to a CRLF when
> IMail and Declude process the E-mail.
Okay, if that's the case, shouldn't Declude also add it's headers to the
message then?  :-)
Yes.  But so should IMail -- note that the "Status:" and "X-UIDL:" headers 
are missing, too.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing Declude headers & incorrect weights

2003-10-20 Thread Keith Johnson

> > >I have also noticed today that it appears Declude JunkMail is no 
> > >longer calculating weights correctly.
> >
> > If you upgrade to the latest interim release at 
> > http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe , it takes care of 
> > this
>issue.
>
>Wasn't actually expecting a response until tomorrow (Monday).  Weights 
>look accurate now.  Thanks for the Sunday response and resolve!

Scott,
If you don't mind me asking, what interim release or full
release did the above weighting issue affect? 

Thanks...

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing Declude headers & incorrect weights

2003-10-20 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > > My best guess as to what happened was that the E-mail was incorrectly
being
> > > sent with a CR or LF character instead of the proper CRLF sequence, as
both
> > > IMail and Declude were adding the headers to the body of the E-mail
> > > (indicating that both saw the end of the headers after the E-mail
body).
> >
> >Okay, I'll buy that--although I not sure how you determined it, since the
> >message displays properly in Outlook Express.
>
> That's probably because the CR or LF will get translated to a CRLF when
> IMail and Declude process the E-mail.

Okay, if that's the case, shouldn't Declude also add it's headers to the
message then?  :-)

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

What RBL's currently work?
Only one -- see http://www.mail-abuse.org .

If you are talking about DNS-based spam databases, there are lots -- see 
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm .

Is the global.cfg on the declude website up to date with the working ones?
We constantly update the one of the website.  We do not list all spam 
databases in there, but have the most popular ones enabled, and have 
definitions for most of the others that people are using.

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[Declude.JunkMail] RBL's

2003-10-20 Thread Timothy C. Bohen
What RBL's currently work?
Is the global.cfg on the declude website up to date with the working ones?

Thanks





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Countries test

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

With the countries test, can it fail more that one country?
Yes.  With any filter, if you have multiple lines, any line that matches 
will cause the test to fail, and will affect the weight of the E-mail.

If so, can you change it so that it lists every line it failed? For 
example, I have the
following:

COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*A
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*B
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*E
COUNTRIES   5   CONTAINS*I
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINS*L
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINS*M
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*P
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINS*R
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINSCH
So it would fail IANA reserved and then fail china and only list china in
the headers warning?
That is correct.  That is to prevent problems with multiple hits.  For 
example, a spam that contains 20 different terms that you have in your 
filter would have a very long and confusing X-RBL-Warning: header if they 
were all included in there.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Countries test

2003-10-20 Thread Craig Gittens
Scott,

With the countries test, can it fail more that one country? If so, can you
change it so that it lists every line it failed? For example, I have the
following:

COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*A
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*B
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*E
COUNTRIES   5   CONTAINS*I
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINS*L
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINS*M
COUNTRIES   1   CONTAINS*P
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINS*R
COUNTRIES   10  CONTAINSCH


So it would fail IANA reserved and then fail china and only list china in
the headers warning?


X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRIES: Message failed COUNTRIES test (234)  shouldn't
it go (8,234) ?

Craig.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Failed whitelist

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

> Are you running two IMail/Declude servers?  It looks like the E-mail went
> to your MX3.NetWood.net (Postfix), which sent to it to centurymedia.com
> (IMail) which sent it to MX4.NetWood.net (Postfix) which sent it to
> netwood.net (IMail).
This is correct. For some reason the email should not have been
received originally by mx3 because that's the backup Imgate but that
shouldn't matter anyhow. On the Imail server that host
centurymedia.com I have WHITELIST the IP of the original sender but
I'm sending WEIGHT12 to a separate mailbox on a different Imail server
via mx4. However the message should never be sent there because the IP
is WHITELIST'd. Strange.
Here are the headers that were sent to the first IMail server 
(centurymedia.com):

Received: from k1s3k2 (68-173-225-12.nyc.rr.com [68.173.225.12])
  by MX3.NetWood.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ECDAE40E61
  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:03:48 -0700 (PDT)
  (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
From: "goregiasticrecords.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: POSSIBLE SPAM:Pre-Order NOW: New PUSTULATED, SAPROFFAGO,
IMPURE & CAEDERE!
Sender: "goregiasticrecords.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 07:02:05 -0400
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
IMail added a Received: header (with the IP 209.247.184.13), and Declude 
JunkMail added a number of headers.  Declude JunkMail saw the IP as 
68.173.225.12 (due to an IPBYPASS that included 209.247.184.13).

What is the WHITELIST entry on centurymedia.com that should have 
whitelisted this E-mail?  Do you have more than 200 WHITELIST entries on 
that server?  Are there any spaces/tabs at the end of the WHITELIST line?

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Missing Declude headers & incorrect weights

2003-10-20 Thread R. Scott Perry

> My best guess as to what happened was that the E-mail was incorrectly being
> sent with a CR or LF character instead of the proper CRLF sequence, as both
> IMail and Declude were adding the headers to the body of the E-mail
> (indicating that both saw the end of the headers after the E-mail body).
Okay, I'll buy that--although I not sure how you determined it, since the
message displays properly in Outlook Express.
That's probably because the CR or LF will get translated to a CRLF when 
IMail and Declude process the E-mail.

> >I have also noticed today that it appears Declude JunkMail is no longer
> >calculating weights correctly.
>
> If you upgrade to the latest interim release at
> http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe , it takes care of this
issue.
Wasn't actually expecting a response until tomorrow (Monday).  Weights look
accurate now.  Thanks for the Sunday response and resolve!
:)

That's one of the reasons why we started using the interim releases -- we 
can't get a beta out on the weekends, but the interim releases allow us to 
come out with quick fixes anytime.

   -Scott
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