RE: [Declude.JunkMail] WinTail

2004-01-25 Thread Markus Gufler

  For those of us using WinTail to view your log files in real 
 time, the developer has released a new version called 
 BareTail with some very useful features (pause,highlighting, etc..)
 
 http://www.baremetalsoft.com/baretail/index.php

Great tool! 


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[Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings

2004-01-25 Thread Keith Johnson
I noticed in our Declude Log (running MID) that we have numerous of the below message 
(different domains).  Is this telling me that there was no MX or A record listed for 
the lookup domain?  I pretty sure, however, just wanted to check, thanks for the aid.
 
Keith
 
WARNING: DNS server 10.10.50.31 returned a SERVER FAILURE error for MX or A for 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings

2004-01-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

I noticed in our Declude Log (running MID) that we have numerous of the 
below message (different domains).  Is this telling me that there was no 
MX or A record listed for the lookup domain?  I pretty sure, however, just 
wanted to check, thanks for the aid.
It is saying that your DNS server reported a server failure - which 
technically means that *your* server failed.

However, many DNS servers will return a server failure response when a 
remote DNS server returns a server failure.  So the chances are that the 
remote DNS server is the one with the problem.  Declude JunkMail will not 
fail the test if a server failure is returned.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings

2004-01-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
 Thanks for the aid.  I'm with you on the second point, I think our DNS server 
(Bind 8.4.3) attempted to verify the domain (all of them look spam in nature) and 
couldn't find an A or MX listed for them and returned back to Declude that warning.  I 
appreciate the speedy response, have a good weekend.
 
Keith

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings




I noticed in our Declude Log (running MID) that we have numerous of the
below message (different domains).  Is this telling me that there was no
MX or A record listed for the lookup domain?  I pretty sure, however, just
wanted to check, thanks for the aid.

It is saying that your DNS server reported a server failure - which
technically means that *your* server failed.

However, many DNS servers will return a server failure response when a
remote DNS server returns a server failure.  So the chances are that the
remote DNS server is the one with the problem.  Declude JunkMail will not
fail the test if a server failure is returned.


-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings

2004-01-25 Thread R. Scott Perry

 Thanks for the aid.  I'm with you on the second point, I think 
our DNS server (Bind 8.4.3) attempted to verify the domain (all of them 
look spam in nature) and couldn't find an A or MX listed for them and 
returned back to Declude that warning.
Actually, the server failure should indicate that your DNS server is 
broken, so it definitely should *not* return the server failure unless it 
is broken, or *perhaps* if it receives a server failure from the remote DNS 
server.

Declude JunkMail is asking BIND if the domain has an MX or A record -- so 
if it returns a server failure when it should not, it is hurting your spam 
control.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings

2004-01-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,
 A took some time and went through the log and found that the following was 
true on all the ones I checked (around 50) entries, the following examples were found 
using dnsreport.com about the Warnings:
 
Getting MX record for mail3b-better-health.wsol8423.com...   Received an NXDOMAIN 
response
 
OR
 
Getting MX record for atkingroup.co.uk...   Received a response code of 2.

This should be treated as an ERROR (per RFC974), and the E-mail delivery should 
PROBABLY be retried later
 
I found 1 or 2 that did show an entry listed in dnsreport, however, I could 
not connect to them via telnet or nslookup's
 
Keith
 

-Original Message- 
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sun 1/25/2004 10:44 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings




  Thanks for the aid.  I'm with you on the second point, I think
 our DNS server (Bind 8.4.3) attempted to verify the domain (all of them
 look spam in nature) and couldn't find an A or MX listed for them and
 returned back to Declude that warning.

Actually, the server failure should indicate that your DNS server is
broken, so it definitely should *not* return the server failure unless it
is broken, or *perhaps* if it receives a server failure from the remote DNS
server.

Declude JunkMail is asking BIND if the domain has an MX or A record -- so
if it returns a server failure when it should not, it is hurting your spam
control.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings

2004-01-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott,

 I took some time and went through the log and found that the 
following was true on all the ones I checked (around 50) entries, the following 
examples were found using dnsreport.com about the Warnings:
 
Getting MX record for mail3b-better-health.wsol8423.com...   Received an 
NXDOMAIN response
 
OR
 
Getting MX record for atkingroup.co.uk...   Received a response code of 2.

This should be treated as an ERROR (per RFC974), and the E-mail delivery 
should PROBABLY be retried later
 
I found 1 or 2 that did show an entry listed in dnsreport, however, I 
could not connect to them via telnet or nslookup's
 
Keith
 

-Original Message- 
From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sun 1/25/2004 10:44 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Warnings




  Thanks for the aid.  I'm with you on the second point, I 
think
 our DNS server (Bind 8.4.3) attempted to verify the domain (all of 
them
 look spam in nature) and couldn't find an A or MX listed for them and
 returned back to Declude that warning.

Actually, the server failure should indicate that your DNS server is
broken, so it definitely should *not* return the server failure unless 
it
is broken, or *perhaps* if it receives a server failure from the 
remote DNS
server.

Declude JunkMail is asking BIND if the domain has an MX or A record -- 
so
if it returns a server failure when it should not, it is hurting your 
spam
control.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

2004-01-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 You  may want to do more; the most important areas to separate in your
 setup  are  the  logs  and  the mail spool. You can't separate Declude
 logs,  just  minimize  them,  but  using IMail's Syslog option you can
 relocate  the IMail logs (and should); they can even go to another box
 entirely.

Location of Declude logs is configured in the .cfg files. :)

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

2004-01-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
   First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks to the
 others on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in to
 helping people.  If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do
 consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes.  Do you have
 any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude) that sees high
 volume?

Typical is a very obscure word. You can some what describe typical ISP or
typical educational, but other than that, each configuration can be
different based on the end users. Example, I operate/consult on 5
Imail/Declude servers. Each one is different. 2 are a major regional ISPs,
another is a corporate server for a financial company, another is a coporate
server for a real estate company, and one is a small ISP which includes a
client that deals in electronic parts, hence gets a lot of e-mail from the
far east. 

The one server that I consult on that is high volume is not a gateway, but
the actual mail box server. I can not directly share their configuration,
but if you read the archives on this list, you will see a lot of work that
has gone into optimizing filters.

Hopefully soon, I will have a site up and running for members to share
filters and such.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

2004-01-25 Thread Kris McElroy
Sorry what I meant by example setups was the hard drive configuration
and what type of hardware.  I should have explained myself a little more
clearly.


Kris



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail - DecludeJunkmail/Virus Gateway

   First off I would like to say thanks to you and thanks to the
 others on this list and the Imail list that put effort and time in to
 helping people.  If you don't mind me asking I am assuming that you do
 consulting for companies that run Imail at high volumes.  Do you have
 any example setups of a typical Gateway (Imail/Declude) that sees high
 volume?

Typical is a very obscure word. You can some what describe typical ISP
or
typical educational, but other than that, each configuration can be
different based on the end users. Example, I operate/consult on 5
Imail/Declude servers. Each one is different. 2 are a major regional
ISPs,
another is a corporate server for a financial company, another is a
coporate
server for a real estate company, and one is a small ISP which includes
a
client that deals in electronic parts, hence gets a lot of e-mail from
the
far east. 

The one server that I consult on that is high volume is not a gateway,
but
the actual mail box server. I can not directly share their
configuration,
but if you read the archives on this list, you will see a lot of work
that
has gone into optimizing filters.

Hopefully soon, I will have a site up and running for members to share
filters and such.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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