Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-30 Thread Marc Hilliker
No, unfortunately I haven't found a good test here and yes they are on the
increase. Gr

-Marc

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From: Glenn Brooks
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments


Has anyone set up a filter to catch thesewe get a lot of them...

gb


At 04:41 PM 3/29/2004 -0800, you wrote:
Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run. Definitly
spam.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments
 
  Hi,
 
  Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up anything.
 
  Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
  Body: This message has attach [random too]
  [random attachments but always ends in .htm]
 
  I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.
 
  Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new Array(162,
  [whole bunch of numbers]
 
  ends with
 
  charters = 907;
  beetle = 243;
  var equal = ;
  for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
 equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
  preferential[bowl % beetle]);
  document.write(equal);
  /script
 
  Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not enough
to
  hold these.
 
  Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-30 Thread Mike K
I filter on this + String.fromCharCode(

This is common in all of them. Combined with other tests it catches most.

Mike



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From: Glenn Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 20:02
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments


 Has anyone set up a filter to catch thesewe get a lot of them...

 gb


 At 04:41 PM 3/29/2004 -0800, you wrote:
 Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run.
Definitly
 spam.
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:37 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments
  
   Hi,
  
   Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up
anything.
  
   Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
   Body: This message has attach [random too]
   [random attachments but always ends in .htm]
  
   I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.
  
   Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new
Array(162,
   [whole bunch of numbers]
  
   ends with
  
   charters = 907;
   beetle = 243;
   var equal = ;
   for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
  equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
   preferential[bowl % beetle]);
   document.write(equal);
   /script
  
   Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not enough
to
   hold these.
  
   Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?
  
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-30 Thread Glenn Brooks
so you do a body filter?

At 09:00 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
I filter on this + String.fromCharCode(

This is common in all of them. Combined with other tests it catches most.

Mike



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From: Glenn Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 20:02
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments
 Has anyone set up a filter to catch thesewe get a lot of them...

 gb


 At 04:41 PM 3/29/2004 -0800, you wrote:
 Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run.
Definitly
 spam.
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:37 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments
  
   Hi,
  
   Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up
anything.
  
   Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
   Body: This message has attach [random too]
   [random attachments but always ends in .htm]
  
   I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.
  
   Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new
Array(162,
   [whole bunch of numbers]
  
   ends with
  
   charters = 907;
   beetle = 243;
   var equal = ;
   for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
  equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
   preferential[bowl % beetle]);
   document.write(equal);
   /script
  
   Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not enough
to
   hold these.
  
   Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?
  
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-30 Thread Mike K
yes

Mike

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From: Glenn Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 09:20
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments


 so you do a body filter?

 At 09:00 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 I filter on this + String.fromCharCode(
 
 This is common in all of them. Combined with other tests it catches most.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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 From: Glenn Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 20:02
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments
 
 
   Has anyone set up a filter to catch thesewe get a lot of them...
  
   gb
  
  
   At 04:41 PM 3/29/2004 -0800, you wrote:
   Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run.
 Definitly
   spam.
   
   John Tolmachoff
   Engineer/Consultant/Owner
   eServices For You
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

 Hi,

 Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up
 anything.

 Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
 Body: This message has attach [random too]
 [random attachments but always ends in .htm]

 I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.

 Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new
 Array(162,
 [whole bunch of numbers]

 ends with

 charters = 907;
 beetle = 243;
 var equal = ;
 for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
 preferential[bowl % beetle]);
 document.write(equal);
 /script

 Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not
enough
 to
 hold these.

 Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange MONKEYFORMMAIL problems

2004-03-30 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Great idea!

-Original Message-
From: Joe Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange MONKEYFORMMAIL problems


I try to look at the config files on a regular basis, but I have to
print both of them out and compare them side by side to see if Declude
has made any changes.  It would be of great help to me if they would
just put a comment at the top of the file giving the revision date.  I
think many others would be able to tell if they need an update much
easier.

Just my two cents.

-Joe

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From: Troy D. Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange MONKEYFORMMAIL problems


 Dude, I didn't know it was dead until my Junkmail started catching all
these
 legit emails, and I'm not complaining about it as much as trying to 
 avoid this problem in the future. Basically, I just need to do a 
 regular update
to
 my global.cfg file. I'm sure the information about the list dying was
posted
 to the NG but I obviously missed it.

 Troy D. Hilton
 SofWerks LLC.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 8:48 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Troy D. Hilton
 Cc: Declude Junkmail Forum
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange MONKEYFORMMAIL problems

 No offense, but when you know the list is a dead soldier, why are you 
 still trying to use it -- and when it doesn't work -- why are you 
 complaining about it here?  Let's move on to something constructive 
 and challenging.  Dead puppies aren't very much fun.

 Thanks,


 Monday, March 22, 2004, 1:34:46 PM, Troy D. Hilton 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 TDH Hello All,



 TDH I know that the MONKEYFORMMAIL and MONKEYPROXIES list are dead 
 TDH and apparently has been for a while but we had a problem last 
 TDH Monday in
 that
 TDH hundreds of legitimate emails started getting caught with these
lists.
 I've
 TDH since disabled the tests in Junkmail. I saw that someone else had

 TDH a
 problem
 TDH with these tests and someone mentioned that these lists had been 
 TDH dead
 for a
 TDH while. Can someone please explain why all of a sudden my Junkmail
 started
 TDH failing emails with these when these lists had been dead? Also, 
 TDH how
do
 I
 TDH avoid something like this form happening again?



 TDH Troy D. Hilton

 TDH SofWerks LLC.

 TDH [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 TDH 302-529-1961






 
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[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time want
to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.

What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name. They
also do not want to abandon the PIX.


Any one have any suggestions?



Kevin Bilbee

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Doug Anderson
web trends firewall suite maybe?

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:43 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring


 Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
want
 to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
 logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
 server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.

 What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name. They
 also do not want to abandon the PIX.


 Any one have any suggestions?



 Kevin Bilbee

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Todd Holt
Monster.com??  LOL  -Just kidding.

Can the PIX log to a syslog server?

Todd Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:43 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
want
to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.

What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name.
They
also do not want to abandon the PIX.


Any one have any suggestions?



Kevin Bilbee

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Dave Marchette
PIX connected to WebSense connected to SQL(or MSDE) will accomplish this
goal.  



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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

web trends firewall suite maybe?

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From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:43 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring


 Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
want
 to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
 logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of
the
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 What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name.
They
 also do not want to abandon the PIX.


 Any one have any suggestions?



 Kevin Bilbee

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Matt
One caveat to the suggestions is that many smaller sites now share the 
same IP with host headers.  If you can't capture the domain used, this 
information will be lost in those instances.  I'm not sure that there is 
a reliable way to convert IP's to domains on static sites either since 
all that would seem to be available would be the reverse DNS entry which 
often times won't match the domain of the site in question.  It would 
seem that to do this with accuracy, you would need some sort of proxy 
server to handle HTTP requests.  Note that I'm not familiar with the 
other options suggested, but as usual, I 'think' I'm right about this :)

Matt



Kevin Bilbee wrote:

Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time want
to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.
What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name. They
also do not want to abandon the PIX.
Any one have any suggestions?



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Darin Cox
Yep...We use it with Kiwi for logging.  Didn't give us everything we wanted
though (for monitoring bandwidth needs of various servers), so we now use
logging from managed switches instead.

Darin.


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Monster.com??  LOL  -Just kidding.

Can the PIX log to a syslog server?

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Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
want
to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.

What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name.
They
also do not want to abandon the PIX.


Any one have any suggestions?



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Nick Hayer
On 30 Mar 2004 at 12:43, Kevin Bilbee wrote:
Here we *used* a product called LittleBrother.  It would produce 
complete tracking reports for every user. Very complete. Simple to 
use.

Not sure if it is still avail. We stopped using it because of 
privacy/union concerns.

-Nick Hayer


 Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
 want to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls
 URL logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address
 of the server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.
 
 What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name.
 They also do not want to abandon the PIX.
 
 
 Any one have any suggestions?
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Dan Horne
I am in the process of reviewing replacements for WebSense in our network
(it is much too expensive for our small organization).

I have found 2 products so far that show promise:

Web Inspector from Zixcorp.com
And
Sentian at N2H2.com

The former uses a pass-by model with packet spoofing to monitor/block, and
is a stand-alone server (does not depend on PIX).

The second one integrates with the PIX like WebSense.  Both are much less
expensive.

Here is an article from PCMag that reviews all three:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1532849,00.asp

Web Inspector got very low marks, but I have tested the application and it
doesn't seem as bad to me as they make it out to be.  It could be more
intuitive, though.


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 Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
 want
 to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
 logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
 server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.
 
 What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name. They
 also do not want to abandon the PIX.
 
 
 Any one have any suggestions?
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Yes it does log to a syslog server. And I am currently doing that. They do
not like the format.

This is from our Kiwi syslog
10.1.50.253 pixfirewall %PIX-5-304001: 68.123.166.135 Accessed URL
12.9.25.243:/diyguide.shtm

Notice the Accessed URL it is an ip address not the host name. This is all
good if the reverse dns entries are setup properly. But in the case of a
server using host headers there is know way to tell wht the host name
was/is.

Kevin Bilbee


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 Monster.com??  LOL  -Just kidding.

 Can the PIX log to a syslog server?

 Todd Holt
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 Las Vegas, NV USA
 702.319.4349
 www.xidix.com


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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

 Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at this time
 want
 to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
 logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
 server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.

 What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host name.
 They
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 Any one have any suggestions?



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 What  they  want  is  a  log of client ip and url including the host
 name. They also do not want to abandon the PIX.

You   might   seriously   want   to   consider   putting  up  an  HTTP
proxy--transparent or standard. And though I'm not the type to blindly
tout Unix-only stuff in Windows groups, Squid (www.squid-cache.org) is
really  very  cool, if you feel like a little learnin'. Got to know it
while  working  on a (commercial) content filtering add-on...still use
Squid, while the add-on was never as stable. :)

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Darin Cox
The Pix doesn't log the hostname...at least not the 515s we usually work
withonly the IP address.

Darin.


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I have to agree that is why I am asking this list with diverse experience.
My research to this point supports your comment.

I am thinking about downloading the trial versions of Websense and N2H2 to
get a comparison and determine it the PIX integeration also supplies the
host name in the reporting.


Kevin Bilbee



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 One caveat to the suggestions is that many smaller sites now share the
 same IP with host headers.  If you can't capture the domain used, this
 information will be lost in those instances.  I'm not sure that there is
 a reliable way to convert IP's to domains on static sites either since
 all that would seem to be available would be the reverse DNS entry which
 often times won't match the domain of the site in question.  It would
 seem that to do this with accuracy, you would need some sort of proxy
 server to handle HTTP requests.  Note that I'm not familiar with the
 other options suggested, but as usual, I 'think' I'm right about this :)

 Matt



 Kevin Bilbee wrote:

 Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at
 this time want
 to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
 logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip address of the
 server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.
 
 What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host
 name. They
 also do not want to abandon the PIX.
 
 
 Any one have any suggestions?
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I called Cisco and the reason the 515s do not log the host name is because
the pix does not look at the data in the packet(s) for the host header
information

Kind of usless as a url looger.


Kevin Bilbee

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 The Pix doesn't log the hostname...at least not the 515s we usually work
 withonly the IP address.

 Darin.


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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring


 I have to agree that is why I am asking this list with diverse experience.
 My research to this point supports your comment.

 I am thinking about downloading the trial versions of Websense and N2H2 to
 get a comparison and determine it the PIX integeration also supplies the
 host name in the reporting.


 Kevin Bilbee



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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Internet Usage Monitoring
 
 
  One caveat to the suggestions is that many smaller sites now share the
  same IP with host headers.  If you can't capture the domain used, this
  information will be lost in those instances.  I'm not sure that there is
  a reliable way to convert IP's to domains on static sites either since
  all that would seem to be available would be the reverse DNS entry which
  often times won't match the domain of the site in question.  It would
  seem that to do this with accuracy, you would need some sort of proxy
  server to handle HTTP requests.  Note that I'm not familiar with the
  other options suggested, but as usual, I 'think' I'm right about this :)
 
  Matt
 
 
 
  Kevin Bilbee wrote:
 
  Management wants to do web usage mainitoring. They do not at
  this time want
  to do blocking. We have a pix firewall that does what Cisco calls URL
  logging but in relaity it does not log the url but the ip
 address of the
  server and the path on the server to the document being viewed.
  
  What they want is a log of client ip and url including the host
  name. They
  also do not want to abandon the PIX.
  
  
  Any one have any suggestions?
  
  
  
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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Logs / Whitelisting

2004-03-30 Thread Kornitz, David
1. I've been reviewing the log files and what is the meaning of the following log 
entries:

03/30/2004 00:08:28 Q0ecf080d00fe32c8 L2 Message OK

03/30/2004 18:30:27 Q111b18cd00a62426 L1 Message OK


2. How can you disable  or adjust the score for disabling Bypassing whitelisting? 

Bypassing whitelisting of E-mail with weight =35 (42) and at least 2 recipients (2).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Logs / Whitelisting

2004-03-30 Thread R. Scott Perry

1. I've been reviewing the log files and what is the meaning of the 
following log entries:

03/30/2004 00:08:28 Q0ecf080d00fe32c8 L2 Message OK
03/30/2004 18:30:27 Q111b18cd00a62426 L1 Message OK
The L means a local recipient (incoming E-mail); an R means a remote 
recipient (outgoing).  The number refers to the number of recipients (so 
L2 refers to the 2nd recipient, which is a local user).

2. How can you disable  or adjust the score for disabling Bypassing 
whitelisting?

Bypassing whitelisting of E-mail with weight =35 (42) and at least 2 
recipients (2).
In your case, I would recommend removing it -- just remove any lines in the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file that mention bypasswhitelist in them.  It 
is not normally a recommended option to use.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird random .htm attachments

2004-03-30 Thread Frederick Samarelli
So you use something like like.

BODY   10CONTAINS+ String.fromCharCode(


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 so you do a body filter?

 At 09:00 AM 3/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 I filter on this + String.fromCharCode(
 
 This is common in all of them. Combined with other tests it catches most.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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   Has anyone set up a filter to catch thesewe get a lot of them...
  
   gb
  
  
   At 04:41 PM 3/29/2004 -0800, you wrote:
   Yes, I have been seeing them too. They are java scripts that run.
 Definitly
   spam.
   
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 Hi,

 Tried searching mail-archive.com for these but didn't turn up
 anything.

 Subject: pass on the fun [random subjects]
 Body: This message has attach [random too]
 [random attachments but always ends in .htm]

 I didn't open it with IE but with a text editor.

 Starts with script language=JavaScriptcontractions = new
 Array(162,
 [whole bunch of numbers]

 ends with

 charters = 907;
 beetle = 243;
 var equal = ;
 for(bowl = 0; bowl  charters; bowl++)
equal = equal + String.fromCharCode(contractions[bowl] ^
 preferential[bowl % beetle]);
 document.write(equal);
 /script

 Sniffer catches these under rule 62 (Experimental) but it's not
enough
 to
 hold these.

 Any ideas? What does one see when they view this under IE?


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[Declude.JunkMail] Error #183

2004-03-30 Thread Kornitz, David
Below is a log for a single email, the last line indicates that ther was an error # 
183.   I have checked and these files are still sitting in the spool directory, Virus 
scanning is excluding the following directories

z:\IMAIL
Z:\IMAIL\SPOOL
Z:\IMAIL\SPOOL\VIRUS

Any ideas as to other possible causes of this problem?

Thanks in advance,


David 




03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 DSBL:5 SORBS-DUL:6 SORBS-HTTP:5 SORBS-MISC:5 
SORBS-SOCKS:5 SPAMCOP:9 XBL:8 NOABUSE:2 NOPOSTMASTER:1 CMDSPACE:5 HELOBOGUS:6 .  Total 
weight = 57.
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 Subject: No Embarrassment!edith 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PROTECTED IP: 
24.112.126.47 ID: 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 Tests failed [weight=57]: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO=WARN 
TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS=WARN DSBL=IGNORE SORBS-DUL=WARN 
SORBS-HTTP=WARN SORBS-MISC=WARN SORBS-SOCKS=WARN SPAMCOP=WARN XBL=WARN NOABUSE=WARN 
NOPOSTMASTER=WARN WEIGHT10=IGNORE WEIGHT15=IGNORE WEIGHT20=IGNORE WEIGHT24=IGNORE 
WEIGHT30=IGNORE WEIGHT35=IGNORE WEIGHT40=IGNORE WEIGHT45=IGNORE WEIGHT50=IGNORE 
WEIGHT55=IGNORE WEIGHTVHIGH=HOLD SPAM-VHIGH=SUBJECT CMDSPACE=WARN HELOBOGUS=WARN 
IPNOTINMX=WARN NOLEGITCONTENT=WARN 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 WARNING: Could not unlock 
Z:\IMail\spool\_435810aa00d01c07.~MD due to error #183.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error #183

2004-03-30 Thread Matt
Try the following, assuming that you are running McAfee as your scanner:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg13155.html

There are also other mentions of error #183 in the archive that may be 
of use.

Matt

Kornitz, David wrote:

Below is a log for a single email, the last line indicates that ther was an error # 183.   I have checked and these files are still sitting in the spool directory, Virus scanning is excluding the following directories

z:\IMAIL
Z:\IMAIL\SPOOL
Z:\IMAIL\SPOOL\VIRUS
Any ideas as to other possible causes of this problem?

Thanks in advance,

David 



03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 DSBL:5 SORBS-DUL:6 SORBS-HTTP:5 SORBS-MISC:5 SORBS-SOCKS:5 SPAMCOP:9 XBL:8 NOABUSE:2 NOPOSTMASTER:1 CMDSPACE:5 HELOBOGUS:6 .  Total weight = 57.
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 Subject: No Embarrassment!edith 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PROTECTED IP: 24.112.126.47 ID: 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 Tests failed [weight=57]: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO=WARN TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS=WARN DSBL=IGNORE SORBS-DUL=WARN SORBS-HTTP=WARN SORBS-MISC=WARN SORBS-SOCKS=WARN SPAMCOP=WARN XBL=WARN NOABUSE=WARN NOPOSTMASTER=WARN WEIGHT10=IGNORE WEIGHT15=IGNORE WEIGHT20=IGNORE WEIGHT24=IGNORE WEIGHT30=IGNORE WEIGHT35=IGNORE WEIGHT40=IGNORE WEIGHT45=IGNORE WEIGHT50=IGNORE WEIGHT55=IGNORE WEIGHTVHIGH=HOLD SPAM-VHIGH=SUBJECT CMDSPACE=WARN HELOBOGUS=WARN IPNOTINMX=WARN NOLEGITCONTENT=WARN 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 WARNING: Could not unlock Z:\IMail\spool\_435810aa00d01c07.~MD due to error #183.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Error #183

2004-03-30 Thread Kornitz, David
Matt,

Thanks, but I had already reviewed that series of postsI should also 
mention that the C:\temp and c:\windows\temp are also exclude from Virus Scanning.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error #183


Try the following, assuming that you are running McAfee as your scanner:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg13155.html

There are also other mentions of error #183 in the archive that may be 
of use.

Matt


Kornitz, David wrote:

Below is a log for a single email, the last line indicates that ther was an error # 
183.   I have checked and these files are still sitting in the spool directory, Virus 
scanning is excluding the following directories

z:\IMAIL
Z:\IMAIL\SPOOL
Z:\IMAIL\SPOOL\VIRUS

Any ideas as to other possible causes of this problem?

Thanks in advance,


David 




03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 DSBL:5 SORBS-DUL:6 SORBS-HTTP:5 SORBS-MISC:5 
SORBS-SOCKS:5 SPAMCOP:9 XBL:8 NOABUSE:2 NOPOSTMASTER:1 CMDSPACE:5 HELOBOGUS:6 .  
Total weight = 57.
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 Subject: No Embarrassment!edith 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PROTECTED IP: 
24.112.126.47 ID: 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 Tests failed [weight=57]: TLD-TRUSTED-HELO=WARN 
TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS=WARN DSBL=IGNORE SORBS-DUL=WARN 
SORBS-HTTP=WARN SORBS-MISC=WARN SORBS-SOCKS=WARN SPAMCOP=WARN XBL=WARN NOABUSE=WARN 
NOPOSTMASTER=WARN WEIGHT10=IGNORE WEIGHT15=IGNORE WEIGHT20=IGNORE WEIGHT24=IGNORE 
WEIGHT30=IGNORE WEIGHT35=IGNORE WEIGHT40=IGNORE WEIGHT45=IGNORE WEIGHT50=IGNORE 
WEIGHT55=IGNORE WEIGHTVHIGH=HOLD SPAM-VHIGH=SUBJECT CMDSPACE=WARN HELOBOGUS=WARN 
IPNOTINMX=WARN NOLEGITCONTENT=WARN 
03/30/2004 22:04:49 Q435810aa00d01c07 WARNING: Could not unlock 
Z:\IMail\spool\_435810aa00d01c07.~MD due to error #183.
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