[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Kevin Stanford
If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and 
domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread gbirdsall
I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


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 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
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 Thanks,

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Darin Cox
Yes.

If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients and
configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

Darin.


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

Thanks,

Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Darin Cox
Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


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 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread David Barker
It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing
mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
global.cfg

WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com

Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


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 From: Kevin Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

 Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Darin Cox
Yes, but he originally asked how to avoid all spam that forged their domain
from also being whitelisted.  Without IMail 8, the best way that I know of
is to use a negative weight instead of a whitelist.  While some spam may
slip through from the negative weight, this can be tuned to keep the amount
low.

Darin.


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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing
mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
global.cfg

WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com

Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

 Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread gbirdsall
Yes, some of my users outgoing mail is being marked as spam.

So the best way would be to set up negative weights for IP addresses?  Is
there a way to do IP ranges with declude?

 Yes, but he originally asked how to avoid all spam that forged their
 domain
 from also being whitelisted.  Without IMail 8, the best way that I know of
 is to use a negative weight instead of a whitelist.  While some spam may
 slip through from the negative weight, this can be tuned to keep the
 amount
 low.

 Darin.


 - Original Message -
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:13 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because
 outgoing
 mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
 ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
 global.cfg

 WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com

 Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain

 David B
 www.declude.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

 Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
 the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
 weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

 Darin.


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
 WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

 Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail
 comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those
 IPs.

 Darin.


 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

 Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Kevin Stanford
I do have version 8. I don't think that I can use SMTP AUTH because I have 
Webshield for SMTP that sits in front of Imail. If I try the IP bypass 
route will it get confused because Webshield will pass (relay) it to Imail 
with an internal IP address?

Kevin
At 10:02 AM 04/04/05, Darin Cox wrote:
Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.
Darin.
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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain
I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?
Is there any way to do this with V7.14?
 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

 Kevin

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread Imail Admin
Just curious: does SmarterMail use SMTP or something similar?

Ben

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From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

 Kevin

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