Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher

Yes.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Hayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES



Scott -

Scott Fisher wrote:


Yes COUNTRIES 0 CONTAINS *A is correct.  The Asterick is a literal.


So COUNTRY 0 CONTAINS *A
would work as well?

Thanks!

-Nick



codes I know of:
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown



- Original Message - From: "Gary Steiner" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES


I guess it depends on exactly what text it is searching for.  In 
looking at my log files (set to Debug), I see that when it is checking 
the COUNTRIES filter I created, it displays a message like "Checking 
countries:  *A ."  Is it actually looking for an asterisk followed by 
an A?  Here are some "non-countries" and the corresponding text 
displayed in the log file:


[ARIN Unlisted] *A
[RIPE Unlisted] *E
[IANA Reserved] *R
[Unknown] *U

Does this mean we should be using a line like

COUNTRIES0CONTAINS*A

Is that asterisk a literal or will it act as a wildcard?  Is anyone 
using this in a country filter?




 Original Message 


From: Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

Help from the guru's please...

Wouldn't [shouldn't] this email fail the ROUTING test?

X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->[IANA Reserved]->UNITED 
STATES->destination

X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: [No Reverse DNS]] [RemoteHostDomain:
lgvsoft.at] [RemoteIP: 58.142.35.136] [SenderHost: lgvsoft.at]
X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: IP4R.SORBS.DYNAMIC [0],
EXTERNAL.CIP.OnlyIp [2], TEST.DYNHELO [5], TEST.REVDNS [0], FILTER.DYNA
[5], FILTER.COMBO.DYNHELO.CIP [3]

Also - is there a way to determine that this email came from/through a
foreign [to the US] source?
This email did not trigger on a foreign filter file that contains:
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSIANA Reserved

Same file has these than never trigger it seems either
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSARIN Unlisted
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSRIPE Unlisted

Thanks!

-Nick
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

2005-09-16 Thread Nick Hayer

Scott -

Scott Fisher wrote:


Yes COUNTRIES 0 CONTAINS *A is correct.  The Asterick is a literal.


So COUNTRY 0 CONTAINS *A
would work as well?

Thanks!

-Nick



codes I know of:
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown



- Original Message - From: "Gary Steiner" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES


I guess it depends on exactly what text it is searching for.  In 
looking at my log files (set to Debug), I see that when it is checking 
the COUNTRIES filter I created, it displays a message like "Checking 
countries:  *A ."  Is it actually looking for an asterisk followed by 
an A?  Here are some "non-countries" and the corresponding text 
displayed in the log file:


[ARIN Unlisted] *A
[RIPE Unlisted] *E
[IANA Reserved] *R
[Unknown] *U

Does this mean we should be using a line like

COUNTRIES0CONTAINS*A

Is that asterisk a literal or will it act as a wildcard?  Is anyone 
using this in a country filter?




 Original Message 


From: Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

Help from the guru's please...

Wouldn't [shouldn't] this email fail the ROUTING test?

X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->[IANA Reserved]->UNITED 
STATES->destination

X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: [No Reverse DNS]] [RemoteHostDomain:
lgvsoft.at] [RemoteIP: 58.142.35.136] [SenderHost: lgvsoft.at]
X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: IP4R.SORBS.DYNAMIC [0],
EXTERNAL.CIP.OnlyIp [2], TEST.DYNHELO [5], TEST.REVDNS [0], FILTER.DYNA
[5], FILTER.COMBO.DYNHELO.CIP [3]

Also - is there a way to determine that this email came from/through a
foreign [to the US] source?
This email did not trigger on a foreign filter file that contains:
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSIANA Reserved

Same file has these than never trigger it seems either
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSARIN Unlisted
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSRIPE Unlisted

Thanks!

-Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
More information:

The problem appears to be caused/centered/triggered/co-incidental to 4 spam
messages. Also, a large Dr Watson log file and dmp were created when this
happened. After isolating these messages, stopping the Imail SMTP,
QueueManager services, disabling and stopping the decludeproc service,
clearing both the proc and proc\work directories of everything, then
reenabling the decludeproc service and restarting the SMTP and QueueManger
services, the server is running as expected.

I also trimmed my THREADS to 5. 

I will be sending the suspected message files, logs and dr Watson to Declude
for review.

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4
> 
> I am confirming this is occurring in 3.0.4.1 as well. 3.0.4.1 was sent to
me
> to hopefully fix this. In my case, I am getting error lines in the Virus
> log, left over .vir directories, misplaced log lines, (JM line in the
virus
> log and hijack log) and events in the windows event log.
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:01 PM
> > To: Declude JunkMail Forum
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4
> >
> > IMail 8.05 HF3
> >
> > After installing JunkMail beta 3.0.4 (for IMail) this morning,
everything
> seemed to be
> > working. That is, I could see the THREAD requisite number of d*.smd and
> q*.smd file
> > pairs being moved to the 'proc\work' folder, whereupon they would get
> processed and
> > disappear. I visually monitored this for several minutes, then decided
to
> go about
> > business.
> >
> > When I returned to check, I discovered that the 'decludeproc.exe'
service
> had
> > stopped. When I restarted the service, I could see file pairs being
> processed until the
> > service again stopped. I repeated this procedure 10-15 times. Determined
> to keep the
> > service running, I set the service's recovery mode to 'Restart the
> service' on all
> > failures; this made no difference.
> >
> > There are no service stop items logged in the Event Viewer for
> 'decludeproc.exe', only
> > start items. Also, I was running JunkMail in DEBUG mode, but things look
> normal (I'm
> > not certain what to look for specifically).
> >
> > Observation: The THREADS value was initially set to 25 and this seemed
to
> keep the
> > service running for about 45 seconds or so. As I incrementally lowered
the
> THREADS
> > value, the 'decludeproc.exe' service would stop sooner, around 5-10
> seconds with a
> > THREADS value of 10.
> >
> > I ended up reverting to 3.0.3 to get things moving again.
> >
> > Kim
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kim W. Premuda
> > FastWave Internet Services
> > San Diego, CA
> >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I am confirming this is occurring in 3.0.4.1 as well. 3.0.4.1 was sent to me
to hopefully fix this. In my case, I am getting error lines in the Virus
log, left over .vir directories, misplaced log lines, (JM line in the virus
log and hijack log) and events in the windows event log. 

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:01 PM
> To: Declude JunkMail Forum
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4
> 
> IMail 8.05 HF3
> 
> After installing JunkMail beta 3.0.4 (for IMail) this morning, everything
seemed to be
> working. That is, I could see the THREAD requisite number of d*.smd and
q*.smd file
> pairs being moved to the 'proc\work' folder, whereupon they would get
processed and
> disappear. I visually monitored this for several minutes, then decided to
go about
> business.
> 
> When I returned to check, I discovered that the 'decludeproc.exe' service
had
> stopped. When I restarted the service, I could see file pairs being
processed until the
> service again stopped. I repeated this procedure 10-15 times. Determined
to keep the
> service running, I set the service's recovery mode to 'Restart the
service' on all
> failures; this made no difference.
> 
> There are no service stop items logged in the Event Viewer for
'decludeproc.exe', only
> start items. Also, I was running JunkMail in DEBUG mode, but things look
normal (I'm
> not certain what to look for specifically).
> 
> Observation: The THREADS value was initially set to 25 and this seemed to
keep the
> service running for about 45 seconds or so. As I incrementally lowered the
THREADS
> value, the 'decludeproc.exe' service would stop sooner, around 5-10
seconds with a
> THREADS value of 10.
> 
> I ended up reverting to 3.0.3 to get things moving again.
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> --
> Kim W. Premuda
> FastWave Internet Services
> San Diego, CA
> 
> --
> ---
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[Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread Kim Premuda
IMail 8.05 HF3

After installing JunkMail beta 3.0.4 (for IMail) this morning, everything 
seemed to be working. That is, I could see the THREAD requisite number of 
d*.smd and q*.smd file pairs being moved to the 'proc\work' folder, whereupon 
they would get processed and disappear. I visually monitored this for several 
minutes, then decided to go about business.

When I returned to check, I discovered that the 'decludeproc.exe' service had 
stopped. When I restarted the service, I could see file pairs being processed 
until the service again stopped. I repeated this procedure 10-15 times. 
Determined to keep the service running, I set the service's recovery mode to 
'Restart the service' on all failures; this made no difference.

There are no service stop items logged in the Event Viewer for 
'decludeproc.exe', only start items. Also, I was running JunkMail in DEBUG 
mode, but things look normal (I'm not certain what to look for specifically).

Observation: The THREADS value was initially set to 25 and this seemed to keep 
the service running for about 45 seconds or so. As I incrementally lowered the 
THREADS value, the 'decludeproc.exe' service would stop sooner, around 5-10 
seconds with a THREADS value of 10.

I ended up reverting to 3.0.3 to get things moving again.

Kim


--
Kim W. Premuda
FastWave Internet Services
San Diego, CA

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher
I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External 
comments.


If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to 
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message - 
From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company
and
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid



servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


- Original Message - From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.


It should be - at this point any variable I have messed with has been 
passable to an external test. 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Erik
We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out 
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's 
countries. 

Darrell
 
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers. 


Scott Fisher writes: 

> I think this would do it in two filters:
> filter 1:
> SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
> TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
> COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US 
> 
> filter 2:
> SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
> TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
> TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
> COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
> COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US
> 
> I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
> and
> have their mail server overseas.
> Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid

> servers):
> #
> #  Special Codes
> #
> *1 Multi-Regional
> *2 Europe
> *3 North America
> *4 Central/South America
> *5 Pacific Rim
> *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
> *B Public Data Network
> *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
> *I Private IP
> *L Loopback
> *M Multicast
> *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
> *R IANA Reserved
> *U Unknown 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter
> 
> 
>> Could someone help me in creating a filter?
>> 
>> I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END
>> 
>> If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
>>   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
>>  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
>> End If
>> 
>>   If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
>>  'Email is probably good (return zero)
>> Else
>>  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
>> End If
>> 
>> End If
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Erik
>> 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out 
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's 
countries. 


Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers. 



Scott Fisher writes: 


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US 


filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US 

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and 
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid 
servers):

#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown 



- Original Message - From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter 



Could someone help me in creating a filter? 

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter? 

 

If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END 


If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If 


  If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If 

End If 


Thanks!
Erik 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher

Yes COUNTRIES 0 CONTAINS *A is correct.  The Asterick is a literal.

codes I know of:
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown



- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Steiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES


I guess it depends on exactly what text it is searching for.  In looking at 
my log files (set to Debug), I see that when it is checking the COUNTRIES 
filter I created, it displays a message like "Checking countries:  *A ."  Is 
it actually looking for an asterisk followed by an A?  Here are some 
"non-countries" and the corresponding text displayed in the log file:


[ARIN Unlisted] *A
[RIPE Unlisted] *E
[IANA Reserved] *R
[Unknown] *U

Does this mean we should be using a line like

COUNTRIES0CONTAINS*A

Is that asterisk a literal or will it act as a wildcard?  Is anyone using 
this in a country filter?




 Original Message 

From: Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

Help from the guru's please...

Wouldn't [shouldn't] this email fail the ROUTING test?

X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->[IANA Reserved]->UNITED 
STATES->destination

X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: [No Reverse DNS]] [RemoteHostDomain:
lgvsoft.at] [RemoteIP: 58.142.35.136] [SenderHost: lgvsoft.at]
X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: IP4R.SORBS.DYNAMIC [0],
EXTERNAL.CIP.OnlyIp [2], TEST.DYNHELO [5], TEST.REVDNS [0], FILTER.DYNA
[5], FILTER.COMBO.DYNHELO.CIP [3]

Also - is there a way to determine that this email came from/through a
foreign [to the US] source?
This email did not trigger on a foreign filter file that contains:
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSIANA Reserved

Same file has these than never trigger it seems either
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSARIN Unlisted
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSRIPE Unlisted

Thanks!

-Nick
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher

I don't believe so.
I think you have COUNTRY and COUNTRIES.
COUNTRY is the last counry in the country chain.

- Original Message - 
From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Can the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable be used instead of %COUNTRIES%?

Right about be careful... But the MN-COMBO is a mix of 3 to 5 TESTSFAILED
combos already.

Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:57 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid
servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


- Original Message - 
From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Ya know, I thought about asking about that, but said nah, no one could do
some thing dumb like I did.

;)

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:36 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.4
> 
> Gawck! At first, I thought "No way did I do that!", but I hadn't closed
the browser
> session to the Declude beta site. Upon checking, I was astounded to find
that I did,
> indeed, download the SmarterMail version of 'decludeproc.exe' (it was
still
> highlighted)...3 TIMES OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS and didn't even notice!
> 
> After downloading and installing the IMail version of 'decludeproc.exe'
version 3.0.4,
> things look to be running normally.
> 
> My apologies to the list (and Declude) for the 'false' reports, and thanks
to the Ncl
> admin for pointing this out.
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Ncl Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >If files are not moving from proc to work make sure you downloaded the
> >right version, I grabbed smartermail version this AM and it does exactly
> >nada under Imail.  Duh. Got the Imail version and of course its running
now.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Erik
Can the %COUNTRYCHAIN% variable be used instead of %COUNTRIES%?

Right about be careful... But the MN-COMBO is a mix of 3 to 5 TESTSFAILED
combos already.

Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:57 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and 
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid 
servers):
#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


- Original Message - 
From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


> Could someone help me in creating a filter?
>
> I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?
>
>
>
> If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END
>
> If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
>   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
>  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
> End If
>
>   If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
>  'Email is probably good (return zero)
> Else
>  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
> End If
>
> End If
>
> Thanks!
> Erik
>
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re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

2005-09-16 Thread Gary Steiner
I guess it depends on exactly what text it is searching for.  In looking at my 
log files (set to Debug), I see that when it is checking the COUNTRIES filter I 
created, it displays a message like "Checking countries:  *A ."  Is it actually 
looking for an asterisk followed by an A?  Here are some "non-countries" and 
the corresponding text displayed in the log file:

[ARIN Unlisted] *A
[RIPE Unlisted] *E
[IANA Reserved] *R
[Unknown]   *U

Does this mean we should be using a line like

COUNTRIES0CONTAINS*A

Is that asterisk a literal or will it act as a wildcard?  Is anyone using this 
in a country filter?



  Original Message 
> From: Nick Hayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:36 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES
> 
> Help from the guru's please...
> 
> Wouldn't [shouldn't] this email fail the ROUTING test?
> 
> X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->[IANA Reserved]->UNITED STATES->destination
> X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: [No Reverse DNS]] [RemoteHostDomain: 
> lgvsoft.at] [RemoteIP: 58.142.35.136] [SenderHost: lgvsoft.at]
> X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: IP4R.SORBS.DYNAMIC [0], 
> EXTERNAL.CIP.OnlyIp [2], TEST.DYNHELO [5], TEST.REVDNS [0], FILTER.DYNA 
> [5], FILTER.COMBO.DYNHELO.CIP [3]
> 
> Also - is there a way to determine that this email came from/through a 
> foreign [to the US] source?
> This email did not trigger on a foreign filter file that contains:
> COUNTRIES0CONTAINSIANA Reserved
> 
> Same file has these than never trigger it seems either
> COUNTRIES0CONTAINSARIN Unlisted
> COUNTRIES0CONTAINSRIPE Unlisted
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Declude

How about adding in a check into decludeproc when it starts to verify that
the proper mail server is installed



Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:36 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.4
>
>
> Gawck! At first, I thought "No way did I do that!", but I hadn't
> closed the browser session to the Declude beta site. Upon
> checking, I was astounded to find that I did, indeed, download
> the SmarterMail version of 'decludeproc.exe' (it was still
> highlighted)...3 TIMES OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS and didn't even notice!
>
> After downloading and installing the IMail version of
> 'decludeproc.exe' version 3.0.4, things look to be running normally.
>
> My apologies to the list (and Declude) for the 'false' reports,
> and thanks to the Ncl admin for pointing this out.
>
> Kim
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Ncl Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >If files are not moving from proc to work make sure you downloaded the
> >right version, I grabbed smartermail version this AM and it does exactly
> >nada under Imail.  Duh. Got the Imail version and of course its
> running now.
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Fisher

I think this would do it in two filters:
filter 1:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

filter 2:
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company and 
have their mail server overseas.
Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to valid 
servers):

#
#  Special Codes
#
*1 Multi-Regional
*2 Europe
*3 North America
*4 Central/South America
*5 Pacific Rim
*A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
*B Public Data Network
*E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
*I Private IP
*L Loopback
*M Multicast
*P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
*R IANA Reserved
*U Unknown


- Original Message - 
From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter



Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
  If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
 Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

  If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
 'Email is probably good (return zero)
Else
 DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
End If

End If

Thanks!
Erik

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread Kim Premuda
Gawck! At first, I thought "No way did I do that!", but I hadn't closed the 
browser session to the Declude beta site. Upon checking, I was astounded to 
find that I did, indeed, download the SmarterMail version of 'decludeproc.exe' 
(it was still highlighted)...3 TIMES OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS and didn't even 
notice!

After downloading and installing the IMail version of 'decludeproc.exe' version 
3.0.4, things look to be running normally.

My apologies to the list (and Declude) for the 'false' reports, and thanks to 
the Ncl admin for pointing this out.

Kim


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From: Ncl Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>If files are not moving from proc to work make sure you downloaded the
>right version, I grabbed smartermail version this AM and it does exactly
>nada under Imail.  Duh. Got the Imail version and of course its running now.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting Header from a bulk mailer

2005-09-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



The funniest one I've seen is:
 
X-Mailer: Minister Punisher 4
 
Andrew 8)
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
  CoxSent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:38 AMTo: 
  IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com; Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
  [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting Header from a bulk mailer
  
  Saw this header today and thought it was mighty 
  interesting.
   
  X-Mailer: Spamsoft Spammer Bulk 
  Mailer
  That's pretty brazen to advertise that you're a 
  spammer in the headers...
  Darin.
   
   


[Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-16 Thread Erik
Could someone help me in creating a filter?

I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

   If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
  'Email is probably good (return zero)
 Else
  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

 End If

Thanks!
Erik

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[Declude.JunkMail] Interesting Header from a bulk mailer

2005-09-16 Thread Darin Cox



Saw this header today and thought it was mighty 
interesting.
 
X-Mailer: Spamsoft Spammer Bulk 
Mailer
That's pretty brazen to advertise that you're a 
spammer in the headers...
Darin.
 
 


[Declude.JunkMail] 3.0.4

2005-09-16 Thread Ncl Admin
If files are not moving from proc to work make sure you downloaded the
right version, I grabbed smartermail version this AM and it does exactly
nada under Imail.  Duh. Got the Imail version and of course its running now.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc' Folder

2005-09-16 Thread Kim Premuda
John,

I performed the suggestions you gave and got the same results. We shall be 
giving David at Declude access to our mail server, so they can see what's 
happening first hand. I'll keep the list posted.

Kim


-- Original Message --
From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Download the DecludeProc.exe again from the site. Maybe something went wrong
>there. 
>
>The version of Imail should make no difference in the processing as it is
>definitely being handed to declude.exe.
>
>Do you have a Declude.cfg file in the Imail\Declude folder? Try putting 
>"WAITFORMAIL   1" 
>in there.
>
>Again, try putting the log into DEBUG mode during the test.
>
>Maybe the server needs a kick? ;)
>


>John T
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[Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

2005-09-16 Thread Nick Hayer

Help from the guru's please...

Wouldn't [shouldn't] this email fail the ROUTING test?

X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->[IANA Reserved]->UNITED STATES->destination
X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: [No Reverse DNS]] [RemoteHostDomain: 
lgvsoft.at] [RemoteIP: 58.142.35.136] [SenderHost: lgvsoft.at]
X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: IP4R.SORBS.DYNAMIC [0], 
EXTERNAL.CIP.OnlyIp [2], TEST.DYNHELO [5], TEST.REVDNS [0], FILTER.DYNA 
[5], FILTER.COMBO.DYNHELO.CIP [3]


Also - is there a way to determine that this email came from/through a 
foreign [to the US] source?

This email did not trigger on a foreign filter file that contains:
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSIANA Reserved

Same file has these than never trigger it seems either
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSARIN Unlisted
COUNTRIES0CONTAINSRIPE Unlisted

Thanks!

-Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc' Folder

2005-09-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Download the DecludeProc.exe again from the site. Maybe something went wrong
there. 

The version of Imail should make no difference in the processing as it is
definitely being handed to declude.exe.

Do you have a Declude.cfg file in the Imail\Declude folder? Try putting 
"WAITFORMAIL1" 
in there.

Again, try putting the log into DEBUG mode during the test.

Maybe the server needs a kick? ;)

John T
eServices For You

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 8:30 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc'
Folder
> 
> Hi, John.
> 
> Yeah...did all that, except running the JunkMail log in 'HIGH' mode. So, I
re-ran the
> test this morning with the log mode set to 'HIGH'. I ran the test between
7:10A and
> 7:20A.
> 
> At the start of the test, both the 'proc' and the 'proc\work' folders were
empty. As the
> test progressed, the 'proc' folder began to fill with 'd*.smd' and
'q*.smd' files. The
> 'proc\work' folder remained empty during the entire 10 minute test. I
could also see
> the 'decludeproc.exe' service running in Task Manager, but it was running
with a
> minimum of CPU usage.
> 
> At the end of the test, reverted back to 3.0.3, and all the backlog in the
'proc' folder
> was immediately processed. That is, I could see the files in the 'proc'
folder being
> moved to the 'proc\work' folder, whereupon they would subsequently
disappear
> (presumably deleted, held, or moved to the 'spool' folder).
> 
> Upon examining the JunkMail log file, note that there is a gap of
information during
> the test time period:
> 
>09/16/2005 07:07:20.515 qd16d0f3f0048a1ec From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 72.26.215.59 ID:
>09/16/2005 07:07:20.515 qd16d0f3f0048a1ec Action(s) taken for
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] = WHITELISTED [LAST ACTION=WHITELISTED]
>09/16/2005 07:07:20.515 qd16d0f3f0048a1ec Cumulative action(s) taken on
this
> email = IGNORE  [LAST ACTION=IGNORE]
>09/16/2005 07:22:55.015 qd31201ec029c0f5f Tests failed [weight=39]:
> NOPOSTMASTER=WARN[1] SNIFFER=WARN[20] CMDSPACE=WARN[8]
> IPNOTINMX=IGNORE[0] NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE[0] ROUTING=WARN[2]
> WEIGHT10=HOLD[10] WEIGHT17=DELETE[17] WEIGHT20=DELETE[20]
> CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE[0] TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN[0] DRUGS-
> MEDICATIONS=WARN[8]
>09/16/2005 07:22:55.500 qd31201ec029c0f5f Action(s) taken for
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] = IGNORE WARN HOLD DELETE  [LAST ACTION=DELETE]
>09/16/2005 07:22:56.078 qd31201ec029c0f5f Cumulative action(s) taken on
this
> email = IGNORE WARN HOLD DELETE  [LAST ACTION=DELETE]
>09/16/2005 07:22:53.218 qd2de00f6024c43a2 Tests failed [weight=24]:
> SNIFFER=WARN[20] IPNOTINMX=IGNORE[0] NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE[0]
> REVDNS=WARN[4] WEIGHT10=HOLD[10] WEIGHT17=DELETE[17]
> WEIGHT20=DELETE[20] CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE[0] TLD-TRUSTED-HELO=WARN[0]
> TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN[0] TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS=WARN[0]
> 
> Is this another sign that the 'decludeproc.exe' was not doing anything?
Also, please
> remember, we are using the older IMail 8.05 HF3, and that our results can
definitely
> be different from yours.
> 
> With regards,
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Date:  Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:56:18 -0700
> 
> >I am sure you did, but let's check.
> >
> >Did you stop the Imail SMTP service, stop the Imail Queue Manager
service,
> >wait for both the proc and work folders to be empty, stop the DecludeProc
> >service, copy in the new decludeproc.exe file, start the DecludeProc
> >service, start the Imail Queue Manager service, start the Imail SMTP
server,
> >put the Declude JM log into Debug mode for say 15 mintues and then review
> >the log to see what happened?
> >
> >John T
> >eServices For You
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc' Folder

2005-09-16 Thread Kim Premuda
Hi, John.

Yeah...did all that, except running the JunkMail log in 'HIGH' mode. So, I 
re-ran the test this morning with the log mode set to 'HIGH'. I ran the test 
between 7:10A and 7:20A.

At the start of the test, both the 'proc' and the 'proc\work' folders were 
empty. As the test progressed, the 'proc' folder began to fill with 'd*.smd' 
and 'q*.smd' files. The 'proc\work' folder remained empty during the entire 10 
minute test. I could also see the 'decludeproc.exe' service running in Task 
Manager, but it was running with a minimum of CPU usage.

At the end of the test, reverted back to 3.0.3, and all the backlog in the 
'proc' folder was immediately processed. That is, I could see the files in the 
'proc' folder being moved to the 'proc\work' folder, whereupon they would 
subsequently disappear (presumably deleted, held, or moved to the 'spool' 
folder).

Upon examining the JunkMail log file, note that there is a gap of information 
during the test time period:

   09/16/2005 07:07:20.515 qd16d0f3f0048a1ec From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  IP: 72.26.215.59 ID: 
   09/16/2005 07:07:20.515 qd16d0f3f0048a1ec Action(s) taken for [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] = WHITELISTED [LAST ACTION=WHITELISTED]
   09/16/2005 07:07:20.515 qd16d0f3f0048a1ec Cumulative action(s) taken on this 
email = IGNORE  [LAST ACTION=IGNORE]
   09/16/2005 07:22:55.015 qd31201ec029c0f5f Tests failed [weight=39]: 
NOPOSTMASTER=WARN[1] SNIFFER=WARN[20] CMDSPACE=WARN[8] IPNOTINMX=IGNORE[0] 
NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE[0] ROUTING=WARN[2] WEIGHT10=HOLD[10] WEIGHT17=DELETE[17] 
WEIGHT20=DELETE[20] CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE[0] TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN[0] 
DRUGS-MEDICATIONS=WARN[8] 
   09/16/2005 07:22:55.500 qd31201ec029c0f5f Action(s) taken for [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] = IGNORE WARN HOLD DELETE  [LAST ACTION=DELETE]
   09/16/2005 07:22:56.078 qd31201ec029c0f5f Cumulative action(s) taken on this 
email = IGNORE WARN HOLD DELETE  [LAST ACTION=DELETE]
   09/16/2005 07:22:53.218 qd2de00f6024c43a2 Tests failed [weight=24]: 
SNIFFER=WARN[20] IPNOTINMX=IGNORE[0] NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE[0] REVDNS=WARN[4] 
WEIGHT10=HOLD[10] WEIGHT17=DELETE[17] WEIGHT20=DELETE[20] 
CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE[0] TLD-TRUSTED-HELO=WARN[0] TLD-TRUSTED-MAILFROM=WARN[0] 
TLD-TRUSTED-REVDNS=WARN[0] 

Is this another sign that the 'decludeproc.exe' was not doing anything? Also, 
please remember, we are using the older IMail 8.05 HF3, and that our results 
can definitely be different from yours.

With regards,

Kim


-- Original Message --
From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:56:18 -0700

>I am sure you did, but let's check.
>
>Did you stop the Imail SMTP service, stop the Imail Queue Manager service,
>wait for both the proc and work folders to be empty, stop the DecludeProc
>service, copy in the new decludeproc.exe file, start the DecludeProc
>service, start the Imail Queue Manager service, start the Imail SMTP server,
>put the Declude JM log into Debug mode for say 15 mintues and then review
>the log to see what happened?
>
>John T
>eServices For You

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc' Folder

2005-09-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
And yes, as of midnight my time, I am running 3.0.4 and it is working as
expected so far.

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:56 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc'
Folder
> 
> I am sure you did, but let's check.
> 
> Did you stop the Imail SMTP service, stop the Imail Queue Manager service,
> wait for both the proc and work folders to be empty, stop the DecludeProc
> service, copy in the new decludeproc.exe file, start the DecludeProc
> service, start the Imail Queue Manager service, start the Imail SMTP
server,
> put the Declude JM log into Debug mode for say 15 mintues and then review
> the log to see what happened?
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:27 PM
> > To: Declude JunkMail Forum
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc'
> Folder
> >
> > IMail 8.05 HF3
> >
> > I installed the JunkMail beta 3.0.4, and had the same results as with
> 3.0.3.8. That is,
> > the 'decludeproc.exe' service was running (as indicated by Task
Manager),
> however,
> > nothing was being processed ('decludeproc.exe' was near the bottom of
the
> Task
> > Manager list when sorted by CPU time, and no external files like Sniffer
> running). Files
> > were being added to the 'proc' directory, but the 'proc\work' directory
> remained
> > empty. Let things run this way for approximately 15 minutes, then
reverted
> back to
> > version 3.0.3. Once 3.0.3 was up and running, the files in the 'proc'
> directory were
> > immediately processed ('decludeproc.exe' at or near the top 5 entries in
> Task
> > Manager, Sniffer executables now showing in Task Manager, backlog of
files
> in 'proc'
> > folder are gone).
> >
> > Kim W. Premuda
> >
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc' Folder

2005-09-16 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I am sure you did, but let's check.

Did you stop the Imail SMTP service, stop the Imail Queue Manager service,
wait for both the proc and work folders to be empty, stop the DecludeProc
service, copy in the new decludeproc.exe file, start the DecludeProc
service, start the Imail Queue Manager service, start the Imail SMTP server,
put the Declude JM log into Debug mode for say 15 mintues and then review
the log to see what happened?

John T
eServices For You


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:27 PM
> To: Declude JunkMail Forum
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4 not Processing Files in 'proc'
Folder
> 
> IMail 8.05 HF3
> 
> I installed the JunkMail beta 3.0.4, and had the same results as with
3.0.3.8. That is,
> the 'decludeproc.exe' service was running (as indicated by Task Manager),
however,
> nothing was being processed ('decludeproc.exe' was near the bottom of the
Task
> Manager list when sorted by CPU time, and no external files like Sniffer
running). Files
> were being added to the 'proc' directory, but the 'proc\work' directory
remained
> empty. Let things run this way for approximately 15 minutes, then reverted
back to
> version 3.0.3. Once 3.0.3 was up and running, the files in the 'proc'
directory were
> immediately processed ('decludeproc.exe' at or near the top 5 entries in
Task
> Manager, Sniffer executables now showing in Task Manager, backlog of files
in 'proc'
> folder are gone).
> 
> Kim W. Premuda
> 
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