RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
Weight tests are last. What are you trying to do? Maybe something like this? MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Hi all I am trying to write a filter file so it fails if: Messgae did not fail TESTA WEIGHT 10 I tried TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS WEIGHT10 The above did not work I assume all Weight tests are added to TESTFAILED after all other test are processed? even if the filter line is after Weight10 in global.cfg. Am i correct ? and, how to achieve what i am trying to do ? TIA --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the filter I need the weight ON STARTING the filter What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a TOTAL weight 10 - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Weight tests are last. What are you trying to do? Maybe something like this? MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Hi all I am trying to write a filter file so it fails if: Messgae did not fail TESTA WEIGHT 10 I tried TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS WEIGHT10 The above did not work I assume all Weight tests are added to TESTFAILED after all other test are processed? even if the filter line is after Weight10 in global.cfg. Am i correct ? and, how to achieve what i am trying to do ? TIA --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
I'm not sure you can do it without a change in Declude. I've requested a SKIPIFMINWEIGHT addition to filters, but no luck getting that added. I would think the code to add it would be extremely similiar to add since the SKIPIFWEIGHT for a max weight already exists. Sounds like you just flip that to a ... - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the filter I need the weight ON STARTING the filter What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a TOTAL weight 10 - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Weight tests are last. What are you trying to do? Maybe something like this? MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Hi all I am trying to write a filter file so it fails if: Messgae did not fail TESTA WEIGHT 10 I tried TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS WEIGHT10 The above did not work I assume all Weight tests are added to TESTFAILED after all other test are processed? even if the filter line is after Weight10 in global.cfg. Am i correct ? and, how to achieve what i am trying to do ? TIA --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
I've requested a SKIPIFMINWEIGHT addition to filters, but no luck getting that added. I would think the code to add it would be extremely similiar to add since the SKIPIFWEIGHT for a max weight already exists. Sounds like you just flip that to a ... Scott, I do not see any difference in SKIPIFMINWEIGHT and SKIPIFWEIGHT. Please explain. John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the filter I need the weight ON STARTING the filter OOPS, your right. Forgot that. What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a TOTAL weight 10 To do what, run the filter or cause a failure? If it is to cause a test failure, that is then like saying if you are bad then you are really bad it kind of goes against the premise of what the foundation of the weighting system is. John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
In fact, I am thinking maybe of simulating the weight test with a filter has anybody tried Filter1: myweight.txt SKIPIFWEIGHT 10 (Some way to trigger this filter if not skipped above) Filter 2: filter2.txt TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS myweight So: 1- Has anyone tried something similar ? 2- what is the easiest way to force Filter1 to trigger ? 3- would this consume much CPU, since we have to use 2 filters intsead of one ? AND, 4- Is there a way in declude (by analyzing logs, or ... ), to see cpu usage by different tests ? - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters I'm not sure you can do it without a change in Declude. I've requested a SKIPIFMINWEIGHT addition to filters, but no luck getting that added. I would think the code to add it would be extremely similiar to add since the SKIPIFWEIGHT for a max weight already exists. Sounds like you just flip that to a ... - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the filter I need the weight ON STARTING the filter What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a TOTAL weight 10 - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Weight tests are last. What are you trying to do? Maybe something like this? MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Hi all I am trying to write a filter file so it fails if: Messgae did not fail TESTA WEIGHT 10 I tried TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS WEIGHT10 The above did not work I assume all Weight tests are added to TESTFAILED after all other test are processed? even if the filter line is after Weight10 in global.cfg. Am i correct ? and, how to achieve what i am trying to do ? TIA --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100 would skip for weight over 100 SKIPIFMINWEIGHT 0 would skip for weight under 0. I also suggested adding paramaters to the global.cfg filter definitions for filters and external programs: HEADER-FILTER d:\header.txt x 0 0 100 200 Would only run the filter in the weight were between 100 and 200. This would save having to open up thousands of filter files a day that only later get skipifweighted. - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters I've requested a SKIPIFMINWEIGHT addition to filters, but no luck getting that added. I would think the code to add it would be extremely similiar to add since the SKIPIFWEIGHT for a max weight already exists. Sounds like you just flip that to a ... Scott, I do not see any difference in SKIPIFMINWEIGHT and SKIPIFWEIGHT. Please explain. John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
That's a good idea. Filter1. SKIPIFWEIGHT 10 REMOTEIP 0 CONTAINS . FILTER2 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS MYWEIGHT AS for CPU considerations, I don't think it would take much CPU if the filters are kept small. - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters In fact, I am thinking maybe of simulating the weight test with a filter has anybody tried Filter1: myweight.txt SKIPIFWEIGHT 10 (Some way to trigger this filter if not skipped above) Filter 2: filter2.txt TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS myweight So: 1- Has anyone tried something similar ? 2- what is the easiest way to force Filter1 to trigger ? 3- would this consume much CPU, since we have to use 2 filters intsead of one ? AND, 4- Is there a way in declude (by analyzing logs, or ... ), to see cpu usage by different tests ? - Original Message - From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters I'm not sure you can do it without a change in Declude. I've requested a SKIPIFMINWEIGHT addition to filters, but no luck getting that added. I would think the code to add it would be extremely similiar to add since the SKIPIFWEIGHT for a max weight already exists. Sounds like you just flip that to a ... - Original Message - From: Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the filter I need the weight ON STARTING the filter What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a TOTAL weight 10 - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Weight tests are last. What are you trying to do? Maybe something like this? MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Hi all I am trying to write a filter file so it fails if: Messgae did not fail TESTA WEIGHT 10 I tried TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS TESTA TESTSFAILED 0 CONTAINS WEIGHT10 The above did not work I assume all Weight tests are added to TESTFAILED after all other test are processed? even if the filter line is after Weight10 in global.cfg. Am i correct ? and, how to achieve what i am trying to do ? TIA --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
SKIPIFWEIGHT 100 would skip for weight over 100 SKIPIFMINWEIGHT 0 would skip for weight under 0. So actually, to be self explainitory, you would want: SKIPIFNOTWEIGHT 0 John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
That would be work for me too! - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters SKIPIFWEIGHT 100 would skip for weight over 100 SKIPIFMINWEIGHT 0 would skip for weight under 0. So actually, to be self explainitory, you would want: SKIPIFNOTWEIGHT 0 John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
if you are bad then you are really bad Not really, my goal is doing some analysis on TESTA (see why high weight messages did not fail testA) , using an action on Filter2 (copy or route), not to add weight - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters the manual says that MINWEIGHTTOFAIL is the total weight attributed by the filter I need the weight ON STARTING the filter OOPS, your right. Forgot that. What I want, is a test of messages that did NOT fail TestA, but do have a TOTAL weight 10 To do what, run the filter or cause a failure? If it is to cause a test failure, that is then like saying if you are bad then you are really bad it kind of goes against the premise of what the foundation of the weighting system is. John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
Not really, my goal is doing some analysis on TESTA (see why high weight messages did not fail testA) , using an action on Filter2 (copy or route), not to add weight AH, now see, if you had answered my question that I posted 9 hours ago... Now that we know the WHY... Using Declude in that manner is IMHO a really poor way of using up CPU resources. You would be a lot better off to view this as a job for log analysis. John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters
Not if you need the results real time to continiously modify TESTA. it is less cpu intensive than contiously analysing logs. Also, it is easier to keep a copy of the specific emails, instead of all emails. And, maybe it is easier for me ta add a simple declude test than to write a log analyzer that does what i need, I am not that good with scripts :) - Original Message - From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] testfailed in filters Not really, my goal is doing some analysis on TESTA (see why high weight messages did not fail testA) , using an action on Filter2 (copy or route), not to add weight AH, now see, if you had answered my question that I posted 9 hours ago... Now that we know the WHY... Using Declude in that manner is IMHO a really poor way of using up CPU resources. You would be a lot better off to view this as a job for log analysis. John T eServices For You Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood. Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882) --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
