[Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder

2006-11-14 Thread netsolution webmaster

I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder.

I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or 
whatever because of the huge number of files.


Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files?

Thanks


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[Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU

2006-11-14 Thread netsolution webmaster
With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to 
process everything in time,  since two days we are on 100% CPU and 
customers have difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok).


What ways are there to
- refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not 
bounce, just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing?

- refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)?

OR what other methods could speed up things?

We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15)

Thanks


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder

2006-11-14 Thread netsolution webmaster

That worked - thanks to you and to Bonno Blocksma


Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb:

Drop down to the command prompt and delete them that way

change to your virus directory and do

del /q /s *.smd

and let it run...

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.


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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] clean up virus folder


I have more than 800'000 files in the spool/virus folder.

I can not delete these files through windows explorer, windows search or
whatever because of the huge number of files.

Which tool/method can you recommend to delete all these files?

Thanks


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config

2006-11-14 Thread netsolution webmaster

Hello

Thanks for your answer.

So I understand it can not be done to reject invalid senders simply by 
using Declude/Imail?


I really need another product?

Also another question: I use per domain configuration for Junkmail - can 
it be configured so that it only performs the tests on mails that go to 
a domain that has been set up with a configuration folder?


It seems like declude is doing the tests on all mails which uses more 
ressources than doing the tests only when required (as defined in per 
domain config)


Thanks

Andy Schmidt schrieb:

Hi,

Basically, you should put a mail gateway in front of your mail server that
can integrate your list of valid email recipients and that can refuse most
of  your messages based on your anti-spam and anti-virus policies.

One option would be to run Declude's own gateway product.

However, to me a crucial element of a gateway is that it MUST reject
messages DURING the SMTP envelope (e.g., after the data is received but
before the receipt is confirmed with a 2xx.).  This way, the gateway can
refuse unwanted messages with a 5xx (or 4xx) return code and the SENDING
SMTP server will inform its user.

It is an absolute must in case of the occasional false positive. At least a
good sender will be notified that there's a problem with their email.

If a gateway first accepts messages and THEN scans them, it would need to
generate bounce messages AFTER the fact. The result is a very high
likelihood that your system will be spamming innocent email users whose
address had been faked.

I simply can't consider any gateway product that doesn't do spam/virus
rejection DURING the SMTP envelope!

One alternative could be to set up IIS SMTP on one of your machines, point
your MX there, purchase ORF and then integrate it with Sniffer so that it
can reject the vast majority of your spam.

If you also bring your list of valid email recipients over to that
IIS/ORF/Sniffer gateway, then you can reject invalid recipients (e.g.,
dictionary attacks) at that machine, instead of tying up Imail with that.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU

With the massive amount of spam mail our server has difficulties to process
everything in time,  since two days we are on 100% CPU and customers have
difficulties with pop/imap speed (before everything was ok).

What ways are there to
- refuse mails that have no valid recipient on the mailserver (not bounce,
just refuse/drop) so they need no more processing?
- refuse/drop mails that don't pass certain tests (eg. spamcop or sniffer)?

OR what other methods could speed up things?

We have older versions of declude /imail server (8.15)

Thanks


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] delete mails before processing / 100% CPU / per domain config

2006-11-14 Thread netsolution webmaster
Sounds good - do you have more details (short instructions) on how to 
set that up combined with declude/imail?


Thanks!

Doug Traylor schrieb:

If your current box can't handle the load, than the ultimate solution is
more processing power - either by upgrading the box, or by delegating 
some

of the work to a gateway.


ASSP is a great addition to an overworked Imail/Declude server and
will reduce the amount of email that server has to cope with.  It is
free and will run on the same server as Imail/Declude or on another
spare box under Windows or Linux.  It will do envelope rejection of
invalid recipients, invalid senders, invalid HELO, etc.  It is very
configurable, and will even do automatic blacklisting of IP's that
misbehave.  It also has an active development group.

see:
http://assp.sourceforge.net/
http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/Welcome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Spam_SMTP_Proxy

Doug Traylor


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-19 Thread netsolution webmaster




1) as we know everyone can scan for viruses and for spam locally on
their pc
2) so we tell them that when they do it on the server they save
bandwidth and cost plus they don't have to waste time on setting it up
locally and maintain it
3) so we charge a (small) per user fee per month for virus  spam
protection
4) we move all spam to a special "spam" pop account so the customer
sees how much gets filtered plus he has a change to review spam mail
4) we offer a 14 day trial for the service - after this everyone
subscribes to it...

The small fee should at least cover the cost of av/spam software
involved, so when prices go up we look for other products that can do
the same thing, or if we are satisfied with how it works (with spam) we
don't renew the service agreement and stay at the current version

But generally hosting business was more fun 5-6 years ago...

Andrew

Dave Beckstrom schrieb:

  Email only makes money for spammers.  Declude and the other mail tools are
an expense not a revenue generator.  Adding CommTouch just adds to overhead
without generating any revenue. 

I'm glad its an option and doesn't affect the rest of Declude.  Declude is
already at the upper limit of what we're willing to spend on a tool.

  
  
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Barker
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:51 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

Gary,

1. Server Providers who use CommTouch as an add-in to Declude will be in
violation of CommTouch's Terms of service.

2. Some of the benefits of CommTouch are Zero Hour virus protection and
additional spam identifying technology such as Recurrent Pattern Detection
Technology (RPD) recognized by key industry analysts as a leading

  
  technology
  
  
in email outbreak detection.

3. We are in the process of defining the revenue share program and will
provide the details to this when it is ready.

David B
www.declude.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary
Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:09 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

So, that being said, under what conditions can a legacy customer use
Commtouch?

Since it would seem that Commtouch is being offered as an add-on, what are
the benefits of having Commtouch?  What does it do that Declude alone does
not?

And of course it would be nice if this "revenue share program" was spelled
out somewhere.



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  From: "David Barker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:57 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

There are restrictions on CommTouch being used by Service Providers we
had to ensure that NEW customers (ie. Service Providers After 1 June
06) understand the licensing restrictions.

Current Service Providers (ie. Before 1 June 06) are under no
restrictions for using Declude; only the CommTouch add-in component.

However we have managed to come to an agreement with CommTouch to
enable our legacy customers (ie. Service Providers Before 1 June 06)
to take advantage of CommTouch under a revenue share program, this
program is not being forced onto legacy customers but will be an
opportunity for us to help you increase revenues in your business, by
providing you with new product like the Declude Gateway which would be
independent of Imail/SmarterMail and will include CommTouch.

David B
www.declude.com



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John T
(Lists)
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:02 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

I guess we all missed the following paragraph in the license agreement:

3.2.6 sub-license, rent, sell, lease, distribute, or otherwise
transfer the Licensed Program save as provided under this End-User
License Agreement unless You obtain a separate License from Declude,
Inc. for such purposes (for example, You may not embed the Licensed
Program into another application and then distribute such to third
parties unless You first acquire an OEM License from Declude, Inc.).
As of June 1, 2006, ISP's and other service providers are not
permitted to use Declude software to clean and forward mail to
customers unless a separate revenue share agreement has been established
  

with Declude.


  http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=121

Is Declude trying to put us out of business? We pay for the software
and now have to pay them some of your meager profits?

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"

  
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:24 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

I guess someone