Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread Roger Heath

Reply to: Roger Heath
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 8:49:08 AM

Should be DSBL... and it appears to be working here after turning
it on..

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R Is DBSL a free blacklist? It seems so in the above article...

R If  so, do I just uncomment the line in the Global.Cfg to make it
R active?

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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread Roger Heath

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  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 9:38:20 AM

No,  but  I  will  try it. It seems to be working good. Scott had
this under subscription based services in his sample global file,
so I was a bit confused. Are there others? Does any one here have
a complete list of the free ones available?

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I Did you also uncomment DSBLALL ?


I Kevin M. Donovan, MCSE
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   Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 8:49:08 AM

 Should be DSBL... and it appears to be working here after turning
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I http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/fixup.pl?story=http://www.infoworld.com/art
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


No,  but  I  will  try it. It seems to be working good. Scott had
this under subscription based services in his sample global file,
so I was a bit confused.

FYI, that section is for services that require a subscription *or* are not 
commonly used.  The only ones that require a subscription are the MAPS 
tests (RBL, RSS, DUL) and the SNIFFER and POSTFIXGATE tests.

Are there others? Does any one here have
a complete list of the free ones available?

You can go to http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm for a list 
of all the known DNS-based spam tests.  Except for the ones listed above, 
they are all free.
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RE: Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread Bill Landry

I'm not sure if you mean BLARSBL or DSBL, but I have been using both, and
DSBL-MULTI as well, for several months without issue.  In fact, they have
worked quite well for me, so I've given each of them a weight of 6, with my
hold weight being 10.

BLARSBL ip4rblock.blars.org *   6   0
DSBLip4rlist.dsbl.org   *   6   0
DSBL-MULTI  ip4rmultihop.dsbl.org   *   6
0

Bill

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From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:03 AM
To: R. Scott Perry
Subject: Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL


Reply to: R. Scott Perry
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 10:18:20 AM

Thanks.  I  had  to  drop this almost as soon as I started it. It
seemed  to  work but then I began getting almost all mail trapped
with  a weight 10 appearing from nowhere. Even the tests list did
not list a weight 10 rule violation. I commented out the DBSL and
now am back to normal.

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Roger Heath



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No,  but  I  will  try it. It seems to be working good. Scott had
this under subscription based services in his sample global file,
so I was a bit confused.

R FYI, that section is for services that require a subscription *or* are
not 
R commonly used.  The only ones that require a subscription are the MAPS 
R tests (RBL, RSS, DUL) and the SNIFFER and POSTFIXGATE tests.

Are there others? Does any one here have
a complete list of the free ones available?

R You can go to http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm for a list

R of all the known DNS-based spam tests.  Except for the ones listed above,

R they are all free.
R -Scott

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Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread Roger Heath

Reply to: R. Scott Perry
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 10:18:20 AM

Thanks.  I  had  to  drop this almost as soon as I started it. It
seemed  to  work but then I began getting almost all mail trapped
with  a weight 10 appearing from nowhere. Even the tests list did
not list a weight 10 rule violation. I commented out the DBSL and
now am back to normal.

--
Roger Heath



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No,  but  I  will  try it. It seems to be working good. Scott had
this under subscription based services in his sample global file,
so I was a bit confused.

R FYI, that section is for services that require a subscription *or* are not 
R commonly used.  The only ones that require a subscription are the MAPS 
R tests (RBL, RSS, DUL) and the SNIFFER and POSTFIXGATE tests.

Are there others? Does any one here have
a complete list of the free ones available?

R You can go to http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm for a list 
R of all the known DNS-based spam tests.  Except for the ones listed above, 
R they are all free.
R -Scott

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Re[5]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


Thanks, I will try these. Actually Scott has :

#DSBLALLip4runconfirmed.dsbl.org*   4   0

Maybe this was the source of the pbm?

That is correct.  DSBL has 3 different databases:

[1] DSBL, which lists open relays that were reported from trusted sources,
[2] DSBLALL, which lists ANY server that relays mail to them (which can 
include providers with malicious users, such as Hotmail), and
[3] DSBLMULTI, which lists multi-hop relays that were reported from trusted 
sources.

http://www.dsbl.org/usage.html has more details on the three tests.
-Scott

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RE: Re[5]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread Bill Landry

Use DSBALL at your own risk since entries are in fact unconfirmed and can
come from any source.  The other two lists only accept entries from trusted
sources.

Bill

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Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Bill Landry
Subject: Re[5]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL


Reply to: Bill Landry
  Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 11:18:07 AM

Thanks, I will try these. Actually Scott has :

#DSBLALLip4runconfirmed.dsbl.org*   4   0

Maybe this was the source of the pbm?

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B I'm not sure if you mean BLARSBL or DSBL, but I have been using both, and
B DSBL-MULTI as well, for several months without issue.  In fact, they have
B worked quite well for me, so I've given each of them a weight of 6, with
my
B hold weight being 10.

B BLARSBL ip4rblock.blars.org *   6   0
B DSBLip4rlist.dsbl.org   *   6   0
B DSBL-MULTI  ip4rmultihop.dsbl.org   *   6
B 0

B Bill

B -Original Message-
B From: Roger Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
B Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:03 AM
B To: R. Scott Perry
B Subject: Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL


B Reply to: R. Scott Perry
B   Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL on Thursday 10:18:20 AM

B Thanks.  I  had  to  drop this almost as soon as I started it. It
B seemed  to  work but then I began getting almost all mail trapped
B with  a weight 10 appearing from nowhere. Even the tests list did
B not list a weight 10 rule violation. I commented out the DBSL and
B now am back to normal.

B --
B Roger Heath



B - Copy of Original Message(s): -


No,  but  I  will  try it. It seems to be working good. Scott had
this under subscription based services in his sample global file,
so I was a bit confused.

R FYI, that section is for services that require a subscription *or* are
B not 
R commonly used.  The only ones that require a subscription are the MAPS 
R tests (RBL, RSS, DUL) and the SNIFFER and POSTFIXGATE tests.

Are there others? Does any one here have
a complete list of the free ones available?

R You can go to http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm for a
list

R of all the known DNS-based spam tests.  Except for the ones listed
above,

R they are all free.
R -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:DBSL

2002-06-13 Thread R. Scott Perry


Use DSBALL at your own risk since entries are in fact unconfirmed and can
come from any source.

Just to clarify that:  Unconfirmed means that it hasn't been proven that 
the entries are open relays.  However, any IP listed in DSBLALL either 
comes from an open relay, or the person who submitted the address has 
access to send mail through the server.  So it includes 3 main categories 
of mailservers:

[1] Open relays,
[2] Mail servers with malicious users (IE ISPs with users who don't like 
them), and
[3] Mail servers with clueless admins that end up submitting their own site.

So although the entries are unconfirmed, you can't add a closed mailserver 
without access to it.

FWIW, DSBLALL has 46,692 entries, DSBL has 35,040 entries, and the multihop 
version has 5,219 entries.  So it looks as though the DSBL test (which I 
believe is a subset of the DSBLALL test) probably ends up getting all the 
entries from DSBLALL that can be confirmed, making DSBLALL useful only for 
unusual situations.
 -Scott

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