Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Geiser
Hi, Philip,
What's life like in the near future?  Does everyone have a flying car yet?
That's my (not so) subtle way of saying your date/time stamp is way off.
Just thought you should know.

Take Care,
Dan

- Original Message - 
From: Phillip B. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG




   OSSRC is still in GLOBAL.CFG but it has been commented
 out and moved
   to the Not Commonly Used section.  Does anyone know why
 this was
   changed?  It also still seems to be a valid test and it's
 not a pay
   service so I don't understand the move.

 The reason for that is that the OSSRC test is the same as
 SPEWS, and SPEWS
 intentionally lists lots of legitimate mailservers, and makes
 it nearly
 impossible for them to get out.

 -Scott
 ---

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Scott,

I had a problem with SPEWS a while back. But after doing a little research
on NANAE, I realized that the SPEWS strategy is to block the spammer first.
If the ISP does not do anything about the spammer, they expand the block to
include more subnets. This usually gets the ISP's attention and they boot
the spammer. Then and only then is block is removed.

Agree with it or not, it is an effective strategy.

Best Regards,

Sr.Consultant /
Phillip B. Holmes
Media Resolutions Inc.
Macromedia Alliance Partner
http://www.mediares.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG

2003-08-02 Thread Phillip B. Holmes

 
   OSSRC is still in GLOBAL.CFG but it has been commented 
 out and moved 
   to the Not Commonly Used section.  Does anyone know why 
 this was 
   changed?  It also still seems to be a valid test and it's 
 not a pay 
   service so I don't understand the move.
 
 The reason for that is that the OSSRC test is the same as 
 SPEWS, and SPEWS 
 intentionally lists lots of legitimate mailservers, and makes 
 it nearly 
 impossible for them to get out.
 
 -Scott
 ---

-

Scott,

I had a problem with SPEWS a while back. But after doing a little research
on NANAE, I realized that the SPEWS strategy is to block the spammer first.
If the ISP does not do anything about the spammer, they expand the block to
include more subnets. This usually gets the ISP's attention and they boot
the spammer. Then and only then is block is removed.

Agree with it or not, it is an effective strategy.

Best Regards,

Sr.Consultant /
Phillip B. Holmes
Media Resolutions Inc.
Macromedia Alliance Partner
http://www.mediares.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1-888-395-4678 |Ext. 101
972-889-0201 |Ext. 101


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG

2003-08-02 Thread Keith Johnson
Given that OSSRC and OSSOFT are no longer effective, besides EASYNET-DNSBL and 
SPAMCOP, what are others giving good Weight to, thanks for the info.
 
Keith

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From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 8/1/2003 5:01 PM 
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Cc: 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG




  OSSRC is still in GLOBAL.CFG but it has been commented out and
  moved to the
  Not Commonly Used section.  Does anyone know why this was changed?  It
  also still seems to be a valid test and it's not a pay service so I don't
  understand the move.

The reason for that is that the OSSRC test is the same as SPEWS, and SPEWS
intentionally lists lots of legitimate mailservers, and makes it nearly
impossible for them to get out.

-Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG

2003-08-01 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
I've been reviewing the current v1.75 GLOBAL.CFG versus my current
GLOBAL.CFG and I had some questions about 3 tests...

OSSOFT
OSSRC
WIREHUB-DNSBL

The WIREHUB-DNSBL looks like it has been replaced by EASYNET-DNSBL.  Is that
correct?

OSSOFT is no longer in the v1.75 GLOBAL.CFG.  Is this test no longer any
good?  Because it still seems to be helping out in my current weight-based
system.

OSSRC is still in GLOBAL.CFG but it has been commented out and moved to the
Not Commonly Used section.  Does anyone know why this was changed?  It
also still seems to be a valid test and it's not a pay service so I don't
understand the move.

Thanks In Advance,
Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG

2003-08-01 Thread Kevin Bilbee


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser
 Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:35 PM
 To: Declude JunkMail
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG


 Hello, All,
 I've been reviewing the current v1.75 GLOBAL.CFG versus my current
 GLOBAL.CFG and I had some questions about 3 tests...

 OSSOFT
 OSSRC
 WIREHUB-DNSBL

 The WIREHUB-DNSBL looks like it has been replaced by
 EASYNET-DNSBL.  Is that
 correct?

Correct


 OSSOFT is no longer in the v1.75 GLOBAL.CFG.  Is this test no longer any
 good?  Because it still seems to be helping out in my current weight-based
 system.

Duplicates SBL listings


 OSSRC is still in GLOBAL.CFG but it has been commented out and
 moved to the
 Not Commonly Used section.  Does anyone know why this was changed?  It
 also still seems to be a valid test and it's not a pay service so I don't
 understand the move.


Do Not Know

 Thanks In Advance,
 Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Discrepancies in New GLOBAL.CFG

2003-08-01 Thread R. Scott Perry

 OSSRC is still in GLOBAL.CFG but it has been commented out and
 moved to the
 Not Commonly Used section.  Does anyone know why this was changed?  It
 also still seems to be a valid test and it's not a pay service so I don't
 understand the move.
The reason for that is that the OSSRC test is the same as SPEWS, and SPEWS 
intentionally lists lots of legitimate mailservers, and makes it nearly 
impossible for them to get out.

   -Scott
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