Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-23 Thread Scott Fisher
I don't give any weight to a SPF pass since many spammers have set up their 
own SPF records and will pass.


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From: Kim Premuda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



This is what we have in our 'global.cfg' file:

  SPFFAIL spffail x x 3 0

Is this old syntax? A remnant of version 1.86? We are currently running 
JunkMail 3.0.5.20.


Also, why are the weights all zero? Shouldn't a fail add weight, and a 
pass subtract weight? Or, am I misunderstanding the 'spf' test?


Thanks!

Kim



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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:26:13 -0500


This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAIL spf fail x 0 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x 0 0

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



I use:
SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

 Set 1:
 SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
 SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0



Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which 
Imail's

SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-22 Thread Kim Premuda
This is what we have in our 'global.cfg' file:

   SPFFAIL spffail x x 3 0

Is this old syntax? A remnant of version 1.86? We are currently running 
JunkMail 3.0.5.20.

Also, why are the weights all zero? Shouldn't a fail add weight, and a pass 
subtract weight? Or, am I misunderstanding the 'spf' test?

Thanks!

Kim



-- Original Message --
From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:26:13 -0500

This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAILspf failx   0   0
SPFPASSspf passx   0   0
SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x   0   0 

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF


 I use:
 SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
 SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
 SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

  Set 1:
  SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
  SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
 

Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which Imail's
SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own 
domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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[Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Brad Morgan
I am currently running Declude v2.0.6.16. Which of the following pairs of
lines should be in
global.cfg?

Set 1:
SPFFAIL spf failx   9   0
SPFPASS spf passx   0   0

Set 2:
SPFFAIL spffail x   x   9   0
SPFPASS spfpass x   x   0   0

What would the answer be for 3.0.5.20?

Regards,

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Scott Fisher

I use:
SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



I am currently running Declude v2.0.6.16. Which of the following pairs of
lines should be in
global.cfg?

Set 1:
SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0

Set 2:
SPFFAIL spffail x x 9 0
SPFPASS spfpass x x 0 0

What would the answer be for 3.0.5.20?

Regards,

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Dean Lawrence
Kevin,

The SPFFAIL test states in the manual.

This test will be triggered if an E-mail fails SPFNote that it will not be triggered for E-mail that has other problems (no SPF record, unknown results from the SPF record, etc.).So any E-mail failing the SPFFAIL test is E-mail that is not authorized per the administrator of the domain the E-mail is being sent from.

So if you do neither SPFFAIL or SPFPASS are triggered, you have essentially received an SPFUNKNOWN response.

Dean
On 11/21/05, Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.Please direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong.
Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [
Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF This is the correct syntax. SPFFAIL spf failx 0 0 SPFPASS spf passx 0 0
 SPFUNKNOWNspf unknown x 0 0 David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF
   I use:  SPFPASS spfpass x 0 0  SPFUNKNOWN spfunknown x 0 0  SPFFAIL spffail x 50 0Set 1:   SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
   SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0   Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend
 which Imail's SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain. Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
 they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one user who attempted to open the zip file.
 Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20? Brad Morgan IT Manager Horizon Interactive Inc. ---
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Nick Hayer




Unknown will work as well as I recall.. 

-Nick



Kevin Bilbee wrote:

  As far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.

Please direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong.


Kevin Bilbee

  
  
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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF


This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAIL		spf		fail		x	0	0
SPFPASS		spf		pass		x	0	0
SPFUNKNOWN		spf		unknown	x	0	0

David B
www.declude.com

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To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF



  I use:
SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

  
  
Set 1:
SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0


  

Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend
which Imail's
SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Bilbee



Thanks, I must have forgotten that. I can not figure out what unknown 
would be used for except to support more of the SPf 
standard.

Kevin

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dean 
  LawrenceSent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:15 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
  Global.cfg lines for SPF
  Kevin,
  
  The SPFFAIL test states in the manual.
  
  "This test will be triggered if an E-mail fails SPFNote that it will 
  not be triggered for E-mail that has other problems (no SPF record, unknown 
  results from the SPF record, etc.).So any E-mail failing the SPFFAIL 
  test is E-mail that is not authorized per the administrator of the domain the 
  E-mail is being sent from." 
  So if you do neither SPFFAIL or SPFPASS are triggered, you have 
  essentially received an SPFUNKNOWN response.
  
  Dean
  On 11/21/05, Kevin 
  Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  As 
far as I know declude only supports SPFFAIL and SPFPASS.Please 
direct me to the release notes/documentation if I am wrong. 
Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Barker 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:26 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
Subject: RE: [ Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for 
SPF This is the correct syntax. 
SPFFAIL 
spf 
failx 
0 0 
SPFPASS 
spf 
passx 
0 0  
SPFUNKNOWNspf 
unknown x 
0 0 David B www.declude.com 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Brad Morgan Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 
PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF  
  I use:  SPFPASS 
spfpass x 0 0  
SPFUNKNOWN spfunknown x 0 
0  SPFFAIL 
spffail x 50 0   
 Set 1:   SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0   Thanks for the 
quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my 
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which 
Imail's SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The 
messages were what F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear 
to be from my own domain. Since I have an SPF record, they should 
have failed the Declude check but  they did not. As a result the 
first few that arrived before F-Prot updated their databases and 
were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one user who 
attempted to open the zip file.  Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20? Brad Morgan IT 
Manager Horizon Interactive Inc. --- 
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