RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-14 Thread Chuck Cahill
I had the great opportunity to evaluate several Secure Mail implementations
and the one our Management picked was the Secure Mail Gateway (SMG) product
from http://www.globalcerts.net.

This wasn't my first choice but Management rated the cost factor higher than
I did. Being an IT type of a guy, I like all the bells and whistles, reports
and the ability to monitor message flow.

The model we purchased was a simple gateway that we placed in front of our
Mail Server.  Implementation is built on a private PKI implementation and a
private DNS. 

User setup is either manual, csv import or it can be setup to create an
account for everyone sending an outbound message.  

The end user simply inserts [secure] on the subject line and the box will
basically send the recipient a notice to visit the box, via SSL web page. On
the first visit, the recipient will be routed to create a username and
password and then they are allowed to retrieve the secure message. 

The box will harvest Signed Messages Certs on incoming mail and will use the
harvested Cert to reply. In addition, if the recipient also uses an SMG, the
message will automatically send the message securely.

GlobalCerts just released a newer model and we're schedule to receive it in
the next 30 days.  Under the current implementation, I had no way to tell if
a secure message had been retrieved or how many secure messages were waiting
in que.  There was no SPAM, Antivirus or Account verification built in which
required us to place another machine in front of this one to process those
services prior to handing off to the SMG, which in turned passed it to the
MTA. 

We've had one outage over the last two years due to configuration error on
GlobalCerts.  They made some changes to their private DNS infrastructure in
April 2006 which took everyone down for approximately a week.   

*Warning* Marketing Fodder to follow*
From what I'm told under the NEW version, I will have the ability to tell if
messages are waiting in que or how many have been processed.  Also account
verification from an imported text file, SpamAssassin and ClamAV are
installed and I'll have the ability to modify, create or change these
configurations. They related the customer can request Root access and it
will be provided.
**End of Marketing Fodder**


As our contract was coming up for renewal, I checked out PostX and
CenturionMail.

http://www.centurionsoft.com/centurionmail/index.html

http://www.postx.com

CenturionMail is a plugin and will take the message and encrypted it with a
zip, cab or its own cef file extension. If you choose cef, the recipient
will have to run a small configuration utility or manually change .cef to
.exe so it will run when clicked. If you use ZIP or CAB, most of us block
password protected zip and cab files so more than likely the recipient will
also. This means requesting the recipient mail administrator to whitelist
attachments coming from your domain.  Does this make anyone feel more
secure???

PostX was my first choice in the beginning and during our recent evaluations
but I couldn't get management to buy in due to the increase cost over
GlobalCerts. It functions similar to the SMG but instead of the recipient
receiving a notice, they receive a secure html attachment and much like an
SSL page, when you click to open the attachment it downloads the public key
to decrypt the message.  The first time you click to open a PostX secure
attachment it redirects you to insert a username and password. Further
encrypted messages will only require you to insert the password.

Reporting is much more detailed and with the acquisition of IronPort, you'll
shortly have a single box providing Encryption along with Anti-Spam and
Anti-Virus.

Encryption can either be triggered by inserting a keyword in the Subject
Line or it can search the message for lexicons and automatically encrypt the
message.

Two years ago we did look at ZixMail and they had several ways to deploy
their product. From a Gateway on our network to plugins we could install on
our machines. The gateway product was based on matching lexicons or keywords
which tripped the encryption process.

Hope this helps

Chuck Cahill
YFCS, Inc









-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:45 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

Has anyone heard of or used either PostX (now a part of Ironport, which 
is now a part of Cisco) or ZixMail?  We are in the market for a secure 
email solution as well and would like to know if anyone on this board is 
using something that they could recommend.

Kevin


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I too have would love to see a solution for this.  I have talked to 
 doctor's offices that need this type of functionality for their email 
 communications of patient information.  Usually 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-13 Thread Kevin Rogers
Has anyone heard of or used either PostX (now a part of Ironport, which 
is now a part of Cisco) or ZixMail?  We are in the market for a secure 
email solution as well and would like to know if anyone on this board is 
using something that they could recommend.


Kevin


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I too have would love to see a solution for this.  I have talked to 
doctor's offices that need this type of functionality for their email 
communications of patient information.  Usually between two doctors or 
a doctor's office and a hospital.


I will keep watching this thread with great interest.

Don

- Original Message - From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution 
that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x




Interesting. I wonder how it works under the hood.

You send securely to anyone, and they create a password and read the 
mail. Or at least that's what I got out of the NetSol presentation.


As the sender, you add a small plugin to Outlook / OE, but the 
recipient doesn't need to do anything other than create the password. 
That doesn't sound very secure on the receiving end to me. I imagine 
the encryption works fine for keeping people from reading the mail in 
transit, but I don't see how you can be sure without a handshake of 
some kind how you know the intended recipient is the one who got the 
message.


-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.
97 Webster Street
Worcester, MA 01603
508-425-7176



- Original Message - From: Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution 
that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x




Here are examples of solutions offered by other ISP:

https://sr.securemail.att.com/securemail/

http://www.networksolutions.com/email-account/email-security.jsp


Howard Smith
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution 
that

works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

Are you looking for a solution like the PGP plug in's for Outlook or
something else?

Darrell

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Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:



 I am an ISP that have customers in need of an Secure Email Solution
such as a outlook plug-in , similar to what ATT and network solutions
offer their email customers . Do anyone know of any company having an
offering for ISP?



Thanks



Howard









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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-08 Thread declude
I too have would love to see a solution for this.  I have talked to doctor's 
offices that need this type of functionality for their email communications 
of patient information.  Usually between two doctors or a doctor's office 
and a hospital.


I will keep watching this thread with great interest.

Don

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that 
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x




Interesting. I wonder how it works under the hood.

You send securely to anyone, and they create a password and read the mail. 
Or at least that's what I got out of the NetSol presentation.


As the sender, you add a small plugin to Outlook / OE, but the recipient 
doesn't need to do anything other than create the password. That doesn't 
sound very secure on the receiving end to me. I imagine the encryption 
works fine for keeping people from reading the mail in transit, but I 
don't see how you can be sure without a handshake of some kind how you 
know the intended recipient is the one who got the message.


-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.
97 Webster Street
Worcester, MA 01603
508-425-7176



- Original Message - 
From: Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that 
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x




Here are examples of solutions offered by other ISP:

https://sr.securemail.att.com/securemail/

http://www.networksolutions.com/email-account/email-security.jsp


Howard Smith
.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Darrell

([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:56 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

Are you looking for a solution like the PGP plug in's for Outlook or
something else?

Darrell

---
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Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:



 I am an ISP that have customers in need of an Secure Email Solution
such as a outlook plug-in , similar to what ATT and network solutions
offer their email customers . Do anyone know of any company having an
offering for ISP?



Thanks



Howard









Howard Smith


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[Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-07 Thread Howard Smith \(N.O.R.A.D.\)
 

 I am an ISP that have customers in need of an Secure Email Solution such as
a outlook plug-in , similar to what ATT and network solutions offer their
email customers . Do anyone know of any company having an offering for ISP?

 

Thanks

 

Howard

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-07 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Are you looking for a solution like the PGP plug in's for Outlook or 
something else?


Darrell

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Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
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Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:
 

 I am an ISP that have customers in need of an Secure Email Solution 
such as a outlook plug-in , similar to what ATT and network solutions 
offer their email customers . Do anyone know of any company having an 
offering for ISP?


 


Thanks

 


Howard

 

 

 

 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-07 Thread Howard Smith \(N.O.R.A.D.\)
Here are examples of solutions offered by other ISP:

https://sr.securemail.att.com/securemail/

http://www.networksolutions.com/email-account/email-security.jsp

 
Howard Smith
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

Are you looking for a solution like the PGP plug in's for Outlook or 
something else?

Darrell

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Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
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  I am an ISP that have customers in need of an Secure Email Solution 
 such as a outlook plug-in , similar to what ATT and network solutions 
 offer their email customers . Do anyone know of any company having an 
 offering for ISP?
 
  
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

2007-06-07 Thread Dave Doherty

Interesting. I wonder how it works under the hood.

You send securely to anyone, and they create a password and read the mail. 
Or at least that's what I got out of the NetSol presentation.


As the sender, you add a small plugin to Outlook / OE, but the recipient 
doesn't need to do anything other than create the password. That doesn't 
sound very secure on the receiving end to me. I imagine the encryption works 
fine for keeping people from reading the mail in transit, but I don't see 
how you can be sure without a handshake of some kind how you know the 
intended recipient is the one who got the message.


-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.
97 Webster Street
Worcester, MA 01603
508-425-7176



- Original Message - 
From: Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that 
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x




Here are examples of solutions offered by other ISP:

https://sr.securemail.att.com/securemail/

http://www.networksolutions.com/email-account/email-security.jsp


Howard Smith
.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Darrell

([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:56 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Looking for an Secure Email Solution that
works with Imail Premium 2006.2 and declude 4.x

Are you looking for a solution like the PGP plug in's for Outlook or
something else?

Darrell

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Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration,
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Howard Smith (N.O.R.A.D.) wrote:



 I am an ISP that have customers in need of an Secure Email Solution
such as a outlook plug-in , similar to what ATT and network solutions
offer their email customers . Do anyone know of any company having an
offering for ISP?



Thanks



Howard









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