Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread R. Scott Perry

If you use LOGLEVEL MID, the log file will show which configuration 
file is used.


I turned on the mid level and here is one of the entries that failed, 
looks like it is coming tthrough my domain, my domain is the only one that 
is using the blacklist filter:
Sorry, my mistake.  It should have been LOGLEVEL HIGH (which will work on 
v1.65 and later).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Christopher Franklin
Another easy thing you can do is use Imail Domain Processing Rules - to
delete all mail from a certain domain.

We use this feature by checking the From or the Sender.
Some junkmail comes from different sources but has a link in the body that's
the same we check for Body Contains (the link) to catch it.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Glenn Brooks
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


 I hate to continue to ask for assistance for the same problem, but I just
 can not figure it out.
 I lost a 300.00/month hosting account today due to continued spam getting
 through.

 Here is what I have: I have multiple domains. Only a couple run
 with their
 own directory within the Declude directory within the Imail Directory.
 The client that left for another hosting company was running off the same
 global.cfg file as my main domain.

 In the Global.cfg file I have a line of code like thes:

 BLACKLISTDOMAIN filter E:\IMail\Declude\domainblacklist.txt x 20 0:

 I do not have any other line of code associated with this test in the
 globla.cfg file.

 In the file named domainblacklist.txt I have the following lines of code
 (there are about 100 lines, on sep. lines):

 MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS hollywoodspecials.net
 MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS .hollywoodspecials.net

 Then in my junkmail file I have the following line of code:
 BLACKLISTDOMAIN DELETE


 I do not know if I am missing some code somewhere else or if I
 need to add
 something somewhere...I am just lost...
 and hate to lose another account, which a couple are threatening if I can
 not stop the spam from the same addresses.

 Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated...I will even pay to have
 the problem solved...it's probably something
 I am not doing correctly.



 Glenn Brooks
 WebWize, Inc.
 713-688-4382
 http://www.webwize.com


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Karen D. Oland
Make sure you DO NOT whitelist your own domain, ip address, the postmaster
or abuse email addresses.  Most of our ignore results for spam came when
one or more of these was whitelisted (especially postmaster or abuse -- real
mails never seem to have problems going there, but any spam that cc's the
postmaster or abuse mailboxes ends up getting whitelisted, causing huge
amounts to go thru if you don't remove those settings).

We block on HELO/EHLO with our domain name or IP and we also use the
spamdomains test to look for any email that pretends to be from us (our
domain name and requires that the sending IP actually be listed with our
name (rather than whitelisting our domain). This also stopped a lot of spam
that used the HELO/EHLO or return address to pretend to be us.

So, in one filter file, we have (we hold at 15, the first two are our
address/name):

#   catch attempt to pretend to be us
HELO 15 CONTAINS staffingtech.com
HELO 15 CONTAINS 216.111.26.34
HELO 15 CONTAINS $domain
HELO  8STARTSWITH [
REVDNS 5 ENDSWITH .in-addr.arpa
#   prevent false positives internally (usually due to
#   forwarding false positives to correct person)
REVDNS -100 CONTAINS staffingtech.com
#   mail servers with no real name
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  0
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  1
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  2
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  3
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  4
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  5
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  6
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  7
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  8
HELO  10  ENDSWITH  9
#   many spams with our name in the mailfrom also contain two asterisks,
#   never seen it in legit mail
mailfrom 15 contains **

The spamdomains filter file contains:

staffingtech.com esper.com

amongst others (esper.com is our isp, a small local company). For most
people, you would enter only your own domain name. In the global.cfg,
comment out the two suggested lines:

#WHITELIST TODOMAIN postmaster@
#WHITELIST TODOMAIN abuse@

If you are using AUTOWHITELIST ON, make sure users do not enter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for your or their domain) or their own email address in the
address book or all spam comes thru (been there, done that, was hard to
find).

I personally think a whitelist problems is biting you, as we have seen that
when IGNORE was the action.

Karen Oland

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Glenn Brooks

Thanks ... good advice
A couple of questionswhen testing for an IP address, if I want to 
filter a block of address what is the correct way to write this:

HELO 20 CONTAINS 216.111.26.

OR CAN

HELO 15 CONTAINS 216.111.26.0/24

Also is there a size limit with declude for the .txt files used to list IP 
addresses or domains, like there is in IMail?

Thanks in advance everyone...looks like our spam has really tightened up 
with all your suggestions...

gb 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread R. Scott Perry

A couple of questionswhen testing for an IP address, if I want to 
filter a block of address what is the correct way to write this:

HELO 20 CONTAINS 216.111.26.

OR CAN

HELO 15 CONTAINS 216.111.26.0/24
You would need to use HELO 20 CONTAINS 216.111.26. (for the filters, 
Declude JunkMail never parses the search string in any way).

Also is there a size limit with declude for the .txt files used to list IP 
addresses or domains, like there is in IMail?
No.  :)

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Karen D. Oland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


 Make sure you DO NOT whitelist your own domain, ip address, the postmaster

I agree with everything you have stated except, whitelisting you own IP
address is fine, since that is not tied to how the HELO is presented by the
connecting mail server.  The IP address of the connecting mail server is not
something that would be trivial to forge (which again has nothing to do with
the HELO string), and if you have setup you boarder router or firewall to
block spoofing attempts, then it becomes virtually impossible that any other
system could connect using your own IP address (in fact, even if they did
connect to you with you own IP address, your system would think it was
talking to itself and would most likely not send anything back to the
connecting mail server).

 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  0
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  1
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  2
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  3
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  4
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  5
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  6
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  7
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  8
 HELO  10  ENDSWITH  9

In addition to the above, since I do not believe that any of these
characters is legal in an e-mail address, hostname, or RDNS, why not also
add the following to your filter files:

HELO -10 CONTAINS `
HELO -10 CONTAINS ~
HELO -10 CONTAINS !
HELO -10 CONTAINS #
HELO -10 CONTAINS $
HELO -10 CONTAINS %
HELO -10 CONTAINS ^
HELO -10 CONTAINS 
HELO -10 CONTAINS *
HELO -10 CONTAINS (
HELO -10 CONTAINS )
HELO -10 CONTAINS =
HELO -10 CONTAINS +
HELO -10 CONTAINS [
HELO -10 CONTAINS ]
HELO -10 CONTAINS {
HELO -10 CONTAINS }
HELO -10 CONTAINS \
HELO -10 CONTAINS |
HELO -10 CONTAINS ;
HELO -10 CONTAINS :
HELO -10 CONTAINS '
HELO -10 CONTAINS 
HELO -10 CONTAINS ,
HELO -10 CONTAINS 
HELO -10 CONTAINS 
HELO -10 CONTAINS /
HELO -10 CONTAINS ?
-
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  0
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  1
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  2
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  3
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  4
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  5
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  6
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  7
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  8
MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  9
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS `
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ~
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS !
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS #
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS $
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS %
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ^
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS *
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS (
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS )
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS =
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS +
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS [
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ]
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS {
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS }
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS \
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS |
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ;
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS :
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS '
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ,
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS /
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ?
-
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  0
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  1
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  2
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  3
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  4
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  5
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  6
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  7
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  8
REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  9

REVDNS -10 CONTAINS `
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ~
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS !
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS #
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS $
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS %
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ^
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS *
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS (
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS )
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS =
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS +
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS [
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ]
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS {
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS }
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS \
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS |
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ;
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS :
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS '
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ,
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS /
REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ?

Bill

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Bill Landry
Oops, remove the minus - from all of these (that's what happens when you
copy and paste from the wrong line).

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


 - Original Message - 
 From: Karen D. Oland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:12 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


  Make sure you DO NOT whitelist your own domain, ip address, the
postmaster

 I agree with everything you have stated except, whitelisting you own IP
 address is fine, since that is not tied to how the HELO is presented by
the
 connecting mail server.  The IP address of the connecting mail server is
not
 something that would be trivial to forge (which again has nothing to do
with
 the HELO string), and if you have setup you boarder router or firewall to
 block spoofing attempts, then it becomes virtually impossible that any
other
 system could connect using your own IP address (in fact, even if they did
 connect to you with you own IP address, your system would think it was
 talking to itself and would most likely not send anything back to the
 connecting mail server).

  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  0
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  1
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  2
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  3
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  4
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  5
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  6
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  7
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  8
  HELO  10  ENDSWITH  9

 In addition to the above, since I do not believe that any of these
 characters is legal in an e-mail address, hostname, or RDNS, why not also
 add the following to your filter files:

 HELO -10 CONTAINS `
 HELO -10 CONTAINS ~
 HELO -10 CONTAINS !
 HELO -10 CONTAINS #
 HELO -10 CONTAINS $
 HELO -10 CONTAINS %
 HELO -10 CONTAINS ^
 HELO -10 CONTAINS 
 HELO -10 CONTAINS *
 HELO -10 CONTAINS (
 HELO -10 CONTAINS )
 HELO -10 CONTAINS =
 HELO -10 CONTAINS +
 HELO -10 CONTAINS [
 HELO -10 CONTAINS ]
 HELO -10 CONTAINS {
 HELO -10 CONTAINS }
 HELO -10 CONTAINS \
 HELO -10 CONTAINS |
 HELO -10 CONTAINS ;
 HELO -10 CONTAINS :
 HELO -10 CONTAINS '
 HELO -10 CONTAINS 
 HELO -10 CONTAINS ,
 HELO -10 CONTAINS 
 HELO -10 CONTAINS 
 HELO -10 CONTAINS /
 HELO -10 CONTAINS ?
 -
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  0
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  1
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  2
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  3
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  4
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  5
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  6
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  7
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  8
 MAILFROM  10  ENDSWITH  9
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS `
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ~
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS !
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS #
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS $
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS %
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ^
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS *
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS (
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS )
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS =
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS +
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS [
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ]
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS {
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS }
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS \
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS |
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ;
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS :
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS '
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ,
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS 
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS /
 MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS ?
 -
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  0
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  1
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  2
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  3
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  4
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  5
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  6
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  7
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  8
 REVDNS  10  ENDSWITH  9

 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS `
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ~
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS !
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS #
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS $
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS %
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ^
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS *
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS (
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS )
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS =
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS +
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS [
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ]
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS {
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS }
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS \
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS |
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ;
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS :
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS '
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ,
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS 
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS /
 REVDNS -10 CONTAINS ?

 Bill

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Karen D. Oland
I just hope you don't include either of the below (since that range includes
are very valid email server and probably a few more).

Use the single address of your own server (since the problem is people
pretending to be YOU, not ME (I hope)).

Karen

 -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Brooks

 A couple of questionswhen testing for an IP address, if I want to
 filter a block of address what is the correct way to write this:

 HELO 20 CONTAINS 216.111.26.

 OR CAN

 HELO 15 CONTAINS 216.111.26.0/24

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Karen D. Oland
I've seen connects that used our IP address as their HELO/EHLO strings.
Same for using our domain name (none were able to deliver their mail, most
were relay attempts).

Interesting list. I may add it, after reviewing some of the mailfrom
characters (I see more and more bad mailfroms, most so they can track
bounces, I would assume).

Karen

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Landry

 I agree with everything you have stated except, whitelisting you own IP
 address is fine, since that is not tied to how the HELO is
 presented by the
 connecting mail server.  The IP address of the connecting mail
 server is not
 something that would be trivial to forge (which again has nothing
 to do with
 the HELO string), and if you have setup you boarder router or firewall to
 block spoofing attempts, then it becomes virtually impossible
 that any other
 system could connect using your own IP address (in fact, even if they did
 connect to you with you own IP address, your system would think it was
 talking to itself and would most likely not send anything back to the
 connecting mail server).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Karen D. Oland
Aarrgh.  I meant to say, that includes OUR very valid mail server in that
range.

What Glenn should do is block servers pretending to be HIS domain (so, he
should use HIS ip address in the HELO line), not any type of range. Range
blocking would be more appropriate for blocking blocks of numbers used by
spammers (usually cable or dial-up).

Karen

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karen D. Oland
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


 I just hope you don't include either of the below (since that
 range includes
 are very valid email server and probably a few more).

 Use the single address of your own server (since the problem is people
 pretending to be YOU, not ME (I hope)).

 Karen

  -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Brooks
 
  A couple of questionswhen testing for an IP address, if I want to
  filter a block of address what is the correct way to write this:
 
  HELO 20 CONTAINS 216.111.26.
 
  OR CAN
 
  HELO 15 CONTAINS 216.111.26.0/24

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: Karen D. Oland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


 I've seen connects that used our IP address as their HELO/EHLO strings.
 Same for using our domain name (none were able to deliver their mail, most
 were relay attempts).

Yep, we see lots of HELO announcements using our IP addresses, as well,
however, that still has nothing to do with, nor will it have any affect on,
whitelisting your mail server's IP addresses.  Whitelisting the IP address
applies to the real IP that connected to you system, not what is announce in
the HELO/EHLO string.

Bill

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Glenn Brooks
OK thanks...will just use mine and very specific addresses...

One other question:

When adding a line to the domain list, what/when is the correct method of 
adding a . before a domain, for example:

HELO 20 CONTAINS .gstassoc.com

The from addresses usually do not show additional aliases, but when looking 
at the header information I usually see an aliases before the domain.

thanks in advancethe spam is really down since all of you have provided 
me with answersthanks everyone

gb



At 03:33 PM 7/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Aarrgh.  I meant to say, that includes OUR very valid mail server in that
range.
What Glenn should do is block servers pretending to be HIS domain (so, he
should use HIS ip address in the HELO line), not any type of range. Range
blocking would be more appropriate for blocking blocks of numbers used by
spammers (usually cable or dial-up).
Karen

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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


 I just hope you don't include either of the below (since that
 range includes
 are very valid email server and probably a few more).

 Use the single address of your own server (since the problem is people
 pretending to be YOU, not ME (I hope)).

 Karen

  -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Brooks
 
  A couple of questionswhen testing for an IP address, if I want to
  filter a block of address what is the correct way to write this:
 
  HELO 20 CONTAINS 216.111.26.
 
  OR CAN
 
  HELO 15 CONTAINS 216.111.26.0/24

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Karen D. Oland
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that whitelisting my IP had anything to do
with the HELO. And, yes, we do block spoofing at the router. At least one or
two people in the past, however, have seemed to have problems with spam
attacks that were resolved by removing their own IP's from whitelists.

There should not be any real reason to whitelist your mail server anyway,
however. Unless you have some type of web service on the same machine that
is sending out malformed emails that the server needs to skip when
processing for spam?

Karen

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Landry

 Yep, we see lots of HELO announcements using our IP addresses, as well,
 however, that still has nothing to do with, nor will it have any
 affect on,
 whitelisting your mail server's IP addresses.  Whitelisting the IP address
 applies to the real IP that connected to you system, not what is
 announce in
 the HELO/EHLO string.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-11 Thread Karen D. Oland
Glenn,

I look up the HELO strings in the LOG*.TXT files. Most of the time you can
match on IS for the IP address, instead of CONTAINS, but it does depend on
the string.  Some of the ones trying to relay thru us recently is
http://monoin.com;, another is www.xyz34.uk.co.sg.  So, it depends on what
you see them trying to use. The mailfrom field may or may not be related to
the HELO field. In yesterday's log, I see:

20030710 022238 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (08DE0134) [207.229.190.23] EHLO
cliff.bigcitytools.com
20030710 022239 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (08DE0134) [207.229.190.23] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and

20030710 043322 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (0AFA0138) [211.218.205.189] HELO
http://monoin.com
20030710 043323 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (0AFA0138) [211.218.205.189] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and

20030710 070555 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (032A0150) [218.70.150.101] EHLO
www.xyz34.uk.co.sg
20030710 070556 127.0.0.1   SMTPD (032A0150) [218.70.150.101] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

These were just some of the relay attempts yesterday (and monoin.com wins
the persistency race for the day, with the most connects and attempts). For
big spammers, first locate the message ID in the headers or DEC*.TXT log,
then use the LOG*.TXT log to find the HELO (if you don't include it in your
headers).

More than likely, just dropping those whitelist entries will have resolved
most of your problems.

Karen

 -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Brooks

 One other question:

 When adding a line to the domain list, what/when is the correct method of
 adding a . before a domain, for example:

 HELO 20 CONTAINS .gstassoc.com

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[Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread Glenn Brooks
I hate to continue to ask for assistance for the same problem, but I just 
can not figure it out.
I lost a 300.00/month hosting account today due to continued spam getting 
through.

Here is what I have: I have multiple domains. Only a couple run with their 
own directory within the Declude directory within the Imail Directory.
The client that left for another hosting company was running off the same 
global.cfg file as my main domain.

In the Global.cfg file I have a line of code like thes:

BLACKLISTDOMAIN filter E:\IMail\Declude\domainblacklist.txt x 20 0:

I do not have any other line of code associated with this test in the 
globla.cfg file.

In the file named domainblacklist.txt I have the following lines of code 
(there are about 100 lines, on sep. lines):

MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS hollywoodspecials.net
MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS .hollywoodspecials.net
Then in my junkmail file I have the following line of code:
BLACKLISTDOMAIN DELETE
I do not know if I am missing some code somewhere else or if I need to add 
something somewhere...I am just lost...
and hate to lose another account, which a couple are threatening if I can 
not stop the spam from the same addresses.

Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated...I will even pay to have 
the problem solved...it's probably something
I am not doing correctly.



Glenn Brooks
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread Rifat Levis
Hello Glenn ,

Here is what i am doing to get rid of this kind of spammers.
In my global.cfg i create
AtlasfilterfilterE:\IMail\Declude\atlasfilter.txt x   0   0
i create a file atlasfilter.txt in declude folder

In the config file i have
WEIGHT10 weight  x x 10 0
WEIGHT15 weight  x x 15 0
WEIGHT20 weight  x x 20 0

Junkmail file
WEIGHT10 WARN
WEIGHT15 WARN
WEIGHT20 DELETE

Now that you can see weight 20 deleting the mail

Write in the atlasfilter.txt
helo 20 contains ommo.net
helo 20 contains 212.64.200.32
etc.
IT will delete the mail


I put   == E:\IMail\Declude\atlasfilter.txt x   0   0
zero as weight to filter because later in txt file i will add some
differents weights
example
mailfrom 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here it will just add weight 10 without deleting.

I have made very few changes to real global.cfg and junkmail files
i am adding everything else to my filter file which make very easy
everything.

example :  The biggest spammer in my country sell a software and a cd with
10 millions mail address , the guys software open a connection
with HELO OMMO.NET
As soon as i found this unchanged field ,i added to my filter text.



Good Luck

Rifat Levis


- Original Message - 
From: Glenn Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:53 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please


I hate to continue to ask for assistance for the same problem, but I just
can not figure it out.
I lost a 300.00/month hosting account today due to continued spam getting
through.

Here is what I have: I have multiple domains. Only a couple run with their
own directory within the Declude directory within the Imail Directory.
The client that left for another hosting company was running off the same
global.cfg file as my main domain.

In the Global.cfg file I have a line of code like thes:

BLACKLISTDOMAIN filter E:\IMail\Declude\domainblacklist.txt x 20 0:

I do not have any other line of code associated with this test in the
globla.cfg file.

In the file named domainblacklist.txt I have the following lines of code
(there are about 100 lines, on sep. lines):

MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS hollywoodspecials.net
MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS .hollywoodspecials.net

Then in my junkmail file I have the following line of code:
BLACKLISTDOMAIN DELETE


I do not know if I am missing some code somewhere else or if I need to add
something somewhere...I am just lost...
and hate to lose another account, which a couple are threatening if I can
not stop the spam from the same addresses.

Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated...I will even pay to have
the problem solved...it's probably something
I am not doing correctly.



Glenn Brooks
WebWize, Inc.
713-688-4382
http://www.webwize.com


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

In the Global.cfg file I have a line of code like thes:

BLACKLISTDOMAIN filter E:\IMail\Declude\domainblacklist.txt x 20 0:

I do not have any other line of code associated with this test in the 
globla.cfg file.
That will add a weight of 20 to any E-mail that meets the criteria of the 
filter, but will not do anything else.

In the file named domainblacklist.txt I have the following lines of code 
(there are about 100 lines, on sep. lines):

MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS hollywoodspecials.net
MAILFROM 20 CONTAINS .hollywoodspecials.net
OK.

Then in my junkmail file I have the following line of code:
BLACKLISTDOMAIN DELETE
The questions here include:

[1] Is that junkmail file the one being used for E-mail to the domain in 
question (IE do you have any per-user or per-domain configurations)?
[2] Could the E-mail to the domain in question be considered outgoing 
E-mail (if the E-mail is a gateway domain, that is not stored locally)?
[3] If per-user or per-domain settings are being used, are there any user 
aliases or host aliases involved?
[4] The obvious (to me) question: Do the E-mails that aren't getting 
deleted have hollywoodspecials.net in the return address (the 
X-Declude-Sender: header or the MAIL FROM line in the SMTP log file; 
these are often different than the From:, Reply-To:, Sender: or other 
similar headers)?
[5] What do the log files show for this E-mail (which narrows it down to 
being a problem with the test, or the actions that are being used on it)?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread Glenn Brooks



Then in my junkmail file I have the following line of code:
BLACKLISTDOMAIN DELETE
The questions here include:

[1] Is that junkmail file the one being used for E-mail to the domain in 
question (IE do you have any per-user or per-domain configurations)?
Yes this file is used for the domain in question and webwize.com, the main 
domain

[2] Could the E-mail to the domain in question be considered outgoing 
E-mail (if the E-mail is a gateway domain, that is not stored locally)?
All email is stored locally...I do not think the email was outgoing, since 
it was being received by the client, and I received some as well, under the 
webwize.com domain.

[3] If per-user or per-domain settings are being used, are there any user 
aliases or host aliases involved?
No

[4] The obvious (to me) question: Do the E-mails that aren't getting 
deleted have hollywoodspecials.net in the return address (the 
X-Declude-Sender: header or the MAIL FROM line in the SMTP log file; 
these are often different than the From:, Reply-To:, Sender: or 
other similar headers)?
The email that was sent to me at this email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
from the hollywoodspecials.net had the email in the from address, it was 
also in the X-Declude-Sender, they were identical for these particular emails.

[5] What do the log files show for this E-mail (which narrows it down to 
being a problem with the test, or the actions that are being used on it)?
I will have to watch for thisthe thing I noticed last night and today 
was the following in the declude log files, but am not sure they were for 
these exact emails, but I have this continually in the declude log files.

07/10/2003 20:11:42 Q0eb9c314012eb215 Msg failed BLACKLISTIP ( This is a 
spam IP address). Action=IGNORE.
07/10/2003 20:11:42 Q0eb9c314012eb215 Msg failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN (Message 
failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN test (120)). Action=IGNORE.

Then a couple of lines down I will have:

07/10/2003 20:12:59 Q0f07c404012ee48a Msg failed BLACKLISTIP ( This is a 
spam IP address). Action=DELETE.
07/10/2003 20:12:59 Q0f07c404012ee48a Msg failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN (Message 
failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN test (132)). Action=DELETE.

This is what has me confused, it seems to catch the tests, sometimes

thanks for the help...

gb





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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread R. Scott Perry

I will have to watch for thisthe thing I noticed last night and today 
was the following in the declude log files, but am not sure they were for 
these exact emails, but I have this continually in the declude log files.

07/10/2003 20:11:42 Q0eb9c314012eb215 Msg failed BLACKLISTIP ( This is a 
spam IP address). Action=IGNORE.
07/10/2003 20:11:42 Q0eb9c314012eb215 Msg failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN (Message 
failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN test (120)). Action=IGNORE.

Then a couple of lines down I will have:

07/10/2003 20:12:59 Q0f07c404012ee48a Msg failed BLACKLISTIP ( This is a 
spam IP address). Action=DELETE.
07/10/2003 20:12:59 Q0f07c404012ee48a Msg failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN (Message 
failed BLACKLISTDOMAIN test (132)). Action=DELETE.

This is what has me confused, it seems to catch the tests, sometimes
That is the normal behavior.  Declude JunkMail doesn't use the same actions 
for all E-mails that fail a given test.  This means that the first E-mail 
used a configuration file that uses the IGNORE action (or those two tests 
weren't listed in the config files), but the second one uses the DELETE 
action.  So some E-mails use one configuration file, sometimes there are 
E-mails that use another configuration file.

If you use LOGLEVEL MID, the log file will show which configuration file 
is used.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread Glenn Brooks

Write in the atlasfilter.txt
helo 20 contains ommo.net
helo 20 contains 212.64.200.32
I will adjust mine to match this and give it a try

Can I use the following for IPs

helo 20 contains 212.64.200.0/24

to cover more IP addresses?

Thanks for the suggestions...

gb 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please

2003-07-10 Thread Glenn Brooks
that is a great suggestion

..looks like you configuration is working so far...and setting the log to 
mid helps sort out the log files.when at low it showed the test 
ignored, while looking at it at MID set, it shows ignore and then further 
down the log it deletes after finishing all tasks

Thanks for all your help...

gb

At 05:05 AM 7/11/2003 +0300, you wrote:
Glen ,

In fact 212.64.200.32 is my server ip address.
Many spammers try to fool your mail server using as hello your mail server
ip address.
Every mail server start talking as follow HELO(EHLO) myhostname.com
But many spammers use HELO(EHLO) 212.64.200.32
212.64.200.32 is my server ip address.
The remote mail server name can not be my ip address :)
This is a spammer trick which can work with very old mail servers.
Thats why i am deleting every mail which contains HELO(EHLO) 212.64.200.32
I am cacthing more than 20% of spam like this.
And be sure this %100 spam.
I have never seen a mail server using the remote mail server name.
Rifat Levis







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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Lost One Account - Help Please



Write in the atlasfilter.txt
helo 20 contains ommo.net
helo 20 contains 212.64.200.32
I will adjust mine to match this and give it a try

Can I use the following for IPs

helo 20 contains 212.64.200.0/24

to cover more IP addresses?

Thanks for the suggestions...

gb

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