RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Todd Richards
Andrew -

I learn a lot from people on this list, and you are no exception.

I looked to see why the email failed the FILTER-SPAM test, and it was
because of "ad.doubleclick.net".  I think that is common for some of the
more well-known "news" newsletters that I've seen failing.  What I could do
is give less points for that particular penalty (it's at 15 now and this
newsletter missed passing altogether by just 3 points), and then re-visit
some of the others that are coming in.  I'm still getting a handful of
messages that are making it through, and you'd think they would be obvious.
Like you said, it's a sort of science and I, for one, apprecaite the time
that goes into making this work.

This particular negative-weight test probably has way too high, so I think I
will adjust those too.

I think as I gain a better understanding of what I'm looing for, and how
everything works, I will undoubtedly have to tweak things.  

Todd
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:32 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

No problem, Todd.

To answer your question in the other thread, yes, more specific is more
better.  On the other hand, you also have to look at what you're really
trying to counterweight.

In this case, you could certainly counterweight both the REVDNS of their
mailserver, and the particular MAILFROM email address too, but after
visiting the site, I suspect that you really don't care about the MAILFROM.

You can use the

REVDNS -30 ENDSWITH .ibsys.com

Just fine.  If you do use a MAILFROM, don't use much weight, because viruses
harvest all email addresses from the infectee and report them back to the
virus writer or spammer, and that address becomes a spoofed MAILFROM later
down the road.

Viruses also spoof the HELO, so a:

HELO -30 ENDSWITH comcast.com

Or

REVDNS -30 ENDSWITH .comcast.com

Would be a bad thing to put in your counterweight file, because a virus is
quite likely to come from a zombie on that network.

What I'd suggest you do for ibsys.com is look at your FILTER-SPAM test and
see why it gave 15 points to this email.

You will likely get better mileage (i.e. spend less of your time on your
counterweight file making exceptions for MTAs) by assigning only incremental
points to text values in your filter files, don't look for the "big win" by
blocking small text phrases or small bits of text in a URL.

To go the extra mile (hey, a driving theme today [pun intended]) why not
decide which IP4R tests you trust, and/or which external tests you trust,
and cancel the dangerously punitive text files?

At the top of your FILTER-SPAM test, you *could* put in:

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS MXRATE-ALLOW

And then messages like this sample wouldn't have received any points from
the FILTER-SPAM test, you would save CPU time on your server, save your
user's time in figuring out that they didn't receive that inbound message,
and save your time on finding the false positives and making counterweight
entries.

The downside of making a "cancel line" in your filter files is that
MXRATE-ALLOW will trigger on, say, a well known ISPs' MTA, and you
*want* to do content filtering on, say, scam text that is so common from
HotMail, Yahoo!, and various international free webmail providers that you
wouldn't otherwise hear about.

Most Declude users end up with filter files that are focused on kinds of
spam and tweak their "cancel lines" accordingly.

There is a great deal of art to this science.

Andrew 8)



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Todd Richards
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:42 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> Thanks Andrew.  I'm starting to catch on.  The good news is that 
> everyone "else" thinks I'm a miracle worker because of the drastic 
> decrease in spam.
> One of these days I'll break down and tell them the truth.  
> So if you all happen to start getting "Thank You" cards from people 
> you don't know, that's probably why...
> 
> Todd
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:23 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> Todd, do this from a command line:
> 
> C:\Temp>nslookup 66.187.204.25
> Server:  Andrew's.obfuscated.dns.server
> Address:  192.168.0.1
> 
> Name:treets100.ibsys.com
> Address:  66.187.204.25
> 
> C:\Tem

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
No problem, Todd.

To answer your question in the other thread, yes, more specific is more
better.  On the other hand, you also have to look at what you're really
trying to counterweight.

In this case, you could certainly counterweight both the REVDNS of their
mailserver, and the particular MAILFROM email address too, but after
visiting the site, I suspect that you really don't care about the
MAILFROM.

You can use the

REVDNS -30 ENDSWITH .ibsys.com

Just fine.  If you do use a MAILFROM, don't use much weight, because
viruses harvest all email addresses from the infectee and report them
back to the virus writer or spammer, and that address becomes a spoofed
MAILFROM later down the road.

Viruses also spoof the HELO, so a:

HELO -30 ENDSWITH comcast.com

Or

REVDNS -30 ENDSWITH .comcast.com

Would be a bad thing to put in your counterweight file, because a virus
is quite likely to come from a zombie on that network.

What I'd suggest you do for ibsys.com is look at your FILTER-SPAM test
and see why it gave 15 points to this email.

You will likely get better mileage (i.e. spend less of your time on your
counterweight file making exceptions for MTAs) by assigning only
incremental points to text values in your filter files, don't look for
the "big win" by blocking small text phrases or small bits of text in a
URL.

To go the extra mile (hey, a driving theme today [pun intended]) why not
decide which IP4R tests you trust, and/or which external tests you
trust, and cancel the dangerously punitive text files?

At the top of your FILTER-SPAM test, you *could* put in:

TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS MXRATE-ALLOW

And then messages like this sample wouldn't have received any points
from the FILTER-SPAM test, you would save CPU time on your server, save
your user's time in figuring out that they didn't receive that inbound
message, and save your time on finding the false positives and making
counterweight entries.

The downside of making a "cancel line" in your filter files is that
MXRATE-ALLOW will trigger on, say, a well known ISPs' MTA, and you
*want* to do content filtering on, say, scam text that is so common from
HotMail, Yahoo!, and various international free webmail providers that
you wouldn't otherwise hear about.

Most Declude users end up with filter files that are focused on kinds of
spam and tweak their "cancel lines" accordingly.

There is a great deal of art to this science.

Andrew 8)



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Todd Richards
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:42 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> Thanks Andrew.  I'm starting to catch on.  The good news is 
> that everyone "else" thinks I'm a miracle worker because of 
> the drastic decrease in spam.
> One of these days I'll break down and tell them the truth.  
> So if you all happen to start getting "Thank You" cards from 
> people you don't know, that's probably why...
> 
> Todd
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:23 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> Todd, do this from a command line:
> 
> C:\Temp>nslookup 66.187.204.25
> Server:  Andrew's.obfuscated.dns.server
> Address:  192.168.0.1
> 
> Name:treets100.ibsys.com
> Address:  66.187.204.25
> 
> C:\Temp> 
> 
> That tells me that your REVDNS won't match, because their 
> reverse DNS is
> *not* the same as the HELO value that you used for your REVDNS test.
> 
> The same is also true for your use of the MAILFROM, which 
> does not have to match the From: address you see in the 
> header. Look at the
> X-Declude-Sender: line in the header that has been marked up. 
>  The MAILFROM was really "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Todd Richards
> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:44 AM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> > 
> > OK, here is an update with the header of the particular message.
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> > 
> > Received: from treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com [66.187.204.25] by 
> > mail.nnepa.com with ESMTP
> >   (SMTPD-8.22) id ACCC0340; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:00:44 -0600
> > Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:02:02 -0600 (CST)
> > From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PR

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Todd Richards
Thanks Andrew.  I'm starting to catch on.  The good news is that everyone
"else" thinks I'm a miracle worker because of the drastic decrease in spam.
One of these days I'll break down and tell them the truth.  So if you all
happen to start getting "Thank You" cards from people you don't know, that's
probably why...

Todd
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:23 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd, do this from a command line:

C:\Temp>nslookup 66.187.204.25
Server:  Andrew's.obfuscated.dns.server
Address:  192.168.0.1

Name:treets100.ibsys.com
Address:  66.187.204.25

C:\Temp> 

That tells me that your REVDNS won't match, because their reverse DNS is
*not* the same as the HELO value that you used for your REVDNS test.

The same is also true for your use of the MAILFROM, which does not have to
match the From: address you see in the header. Look at the
X-Declude-Sender: line in the header that has been marked up.  The MAILFROM
was really "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Andrew 8)




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Todd Richards
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> OK, here is an update with the header of the particular message.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> Received: from treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com [66.187.204.25] by 
> mail.nnepa.com with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD-8.22) id ACCC0340; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:00:44 -0600
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:02:02 -0600 (CST)
> From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-unsub: ?unsub.cfm?u=2656017216813-oma_12pm-oma_12pm_1_12000311092006
> Subject: [21]   KETV.com Noon Headlines
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
> X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com has no MX or 
> A records [0301].
> X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-SPAM: Message failed FILTER-SPAM test (line 55, 
> weight
> 15)
> X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 76, 
> weight 4)
> X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 
> 10.
> X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]
> X-Declude-Spoolname: D6ccc08932bf7.smd
> X-Declude-RefID: 
> X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.14 for spam.
> "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
> X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [21] at 12:01:18 on 09 Nov 2006
> X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], HELOBOGUS [5], FILTER-SPAM [15], 
> GIBBERISH [4], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT15 [15], WEIGHT19 [19], WEIGHT19a 
> [19]
> X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
> X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Status: U
> X-UIDL: 463090338
> X-IMail-ThreadID: 6ccc08932bf7
> X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.431 [268.14.0/524]
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Todd Richards
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> Hi David -
> 
> OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the 
> log:
> 
> 11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at 
> first hit.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking
> countries:  US .
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file 
> D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.s

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Darin Cox
What are you adding to outgoing headers in the config?  You won't see the
test in the headers unless you add a header that displays all of the tests
the message fails.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working


Hi David -

OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the log:

11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at first
hit.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking countries:  US .
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 .  Total weight
= -3.

However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails in question
caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the headers about an
"allowlist_med".  Which means that there must be something not right in the
filter itself.  This particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as
a MAILFROM with the full email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
there a better way to do that?

Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug mode when the next
one comes through later today?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi Everyone -

I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):

ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM 0 ENDSWITH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
REVDNS  0 ENDSWITH .asaenet.org

However, these messages are still getting caught.  When I look at the
headers, it doesn't even appear that it is running this test.  I have the
test listed in $default$.junkmail as ALLOWLIST_MED  WARN

And in diags.txt as
ALLOWLIST_MED  FILTER

I would like to add some others as well but need to get at least one working
first.

Any help is appreciated (as always)!

Todd





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Todd Richards
Oh Geesss (head down, walking towards corner)... 

Seeing that (now), what's the best practice?

MAILFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Or 
MAILFROM @mailer.ibsys.com

I would think the more specific, the better.

Thanks, David!

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:02 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

The actual MAILFROM is:

X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]

Not

From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:44 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

OK, here is an update with the header of the particular message.

Todd


Received: from treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com [66.187.204.25] by mail.nnepa.com
with ESMTP
  (SMTPD-8.22) id ACCC0340; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:00:44 -0600
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:02:02 -0600 (CST)
From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-unsub: ?unsub.cfm?u=2656017216813-oma_12pm-oma_12pm_1_12000311092006
Subject: [21]   KETV.com Noon Headlines
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com has no MX or A
records [0301].
X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-SPAM: Message failed FILTER-SPAM test (line 55, weight
15)
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 76, weight 4)
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D6ccc08932bf7.smd
X-Declude-RefID: 
X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.14 for spam.
"http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [21] at 12:01:18 on 09 Nov 2006
X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], HELOBOGUS [5], FILTER-SPAM [15],
GIBBERISH [4], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT15 [15], WEIGHT19 [19], WEIGHT19a [19]
X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: U
X-UIDL: 463090338
X-IMail-ThreadID: 6ccc08932bf7
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.431 [268.14.0/524]

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi David -

OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the log:

11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at first
hit.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking countries:  US .
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 .  Total weight
= -3.

However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails in question
caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the headers about an
"allowlist_med".  Which means that there must be something not right in the
filter itself.  This particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as
a MAILFROM with the full email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
there a better way to do that?

Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug mode when the next
one comes through later today?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Todd, do this from a command line:

C:\Temp>nslookup 66.187.204.25
Server:  Andrew's.obfuscated.dns.server
Address:  192.168.0.1

Name:treets100.ibsys.com
Address:  66.187.204.25

C:\Temp> 

That tells me that your REVDNS won't match, because their reverse DNS is
*not* the same as the HELO value that you used for your REVDNS test.

The same is also true for your use of the MAILFROM, which does not have
to match the From: address you see in the header. Look at the
X-Declude-Sender: line in the header that has been marked up.  The
MAILFROM was really "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Andrew 8)




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Todd Richards
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> OK, here is an update with the header of the particular message.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> Received: from treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com [66.187.204.25] by 
> mail.nnepa.com with ESMTP
>   (SMTPD-8.22) id ACCC0340; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:00:44 -0600
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:02:02 -0600 (CST)
> From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-unsub: ?unsub.cfm?u=2656017216813-oma_12pm-oma_12pm_1_12000311092006
> Subject: [21]   KETV.com Noon Headlines
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
> X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com has 
> no MX or A records [0301].
> X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-SPAM: Message failed FILTER-SPAM test 
> (line 55, weight
> 15)
> X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 
> 76, weight 4)
> X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the 
> limit of 10.
> X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]
> X-Declude-Spoolname: D6ccc08932bf7.smd
> X-Declude-RefID: 
> X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.14 for spam.
> "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
> X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [21] at 12:01:18 on 09 Nov 2006
> X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], HELOBOGUS [5], FILTER-SPAM 
> [15], GIBBERISH [4], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT15 [15], WEIGHT19 
> [19], WEIGHT19a [19]
> X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
> X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Status: U
> X-UIDL: 463090338
> X-IMail-ThreadID: 6ccc08932bf7
> X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.431 [268.14.0/524]
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Todd Richards
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working
> 
> Hi David -
> 
> OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip 
> of the log:
> 
> 11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will 
> stop at first hit.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking 
> countries:  US .
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter 
> file D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
> 11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 . 
>  Total weight = -3.
> 
> However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails 
> in question caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the 
> headers about an "allowlist_med".  Which means that there 
> must be something not right in the filter itself.  This 
> particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as a 
> MAILFROM with the full email address of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is there a better way to do that?
> 
> Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug 
> mode when the next one comes through lat

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread David Barker
The actual MAILFROM is:

X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]

Not

From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:44 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

OK, here is an update with the header of the particular message.

Todd


Received: from treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com [66.187.204.25] by mail.nnepa.com
with ESMTP
  (SMTPD-8.22) id ACCC0340; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:00:44 -0600
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:02:02 -0600 (CST)
From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-unsub: ?unsub.cfm?u=2656017216813-oma_12pm-oma_12pm_1_12000311092006
Subject: [21]   KETV.com Noon Headlines
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com has no MX or A
records [0301].
X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-SPAM: Message failed FILTER-SPAM test (line 55, weight
15)
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 76, weight 4)
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D6ccc08932bf7.smd
X-Declude-RefID: 
X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.14 for spam.
"http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [21] at 12:01:18 on 09 Nov 2006
X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], HELOBOGUS [5], FILTER-SPAM [15],
GIBBERISH [4], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT15 [15], WEIGHT19 [19], WEIGHT19a [19]
X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: U
X-UIDL: 463090338
X-IMail-ThreadID: 6ccc08932bf7
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.431 [268.14.0/524]

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi David -

OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the log:

11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at first
hit.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking countries:  US .
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 .  Total weight
= -3.

However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails in question
caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the headers about an
"allowlist_med".  Which means that there must be something not right in the
filter itself.  This particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as
a MAILFROM with the full email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
there a better way to do that?

Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug mode when the next
one comes through later today?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi Everyone -
 
I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):
 
ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM0   ENDSWITH[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Todd Richards
OK, here is an update with the header of the particular message.

Todd


Received: from treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com [66.187.204.25] by mail.nnepa.com
with ESMTP
  (SMTPD-8.22) id ACCC0340; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:00:44 -0600
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:02:02 -0600 (CST)
From: "KETV.com Newsroom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-unsub: ?unsub.cfm?u=2656017216813-oma_12pm-oma_12pm_1_12000311092006
Subject: [21]   KETV.com Noon Headlines
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-ALLOW: "GOOD SENDER"
X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain treetso101.mtc.ibsys.com has no MX or A
records [0301].
X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-SPAM: Message failed FILTER-SPAM test (line 55, weight
15)
X-RBL-Warning: GIBBERISH: Message failed GIBBERISH test (line 76, weight 4)
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 21 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.187.204.25]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D6ccc08932bf7.smd
X-Declude-RefID: 
X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.14 for spam.
"http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [21] at 12:01:18 on 09 Nov 2006
X-Declude-Fail: MXRATE-ALLOW [-3], HELOBOGUS [5], FILTER-SPAM [15],
GIBBERISH [4], WEIGHT10 [10], WEIGHT15 [15], WEIGHT19 [19], WEIGHT19a [19]
X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: U
X-UIDL: 463090338
X-IMail-ThreadID: 6ccc08932bf7
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.431 [268.14.0/524]

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi David -

OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the log:

11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at first
hit.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking countries:  US .
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 .  Total weight
= -3.

However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails in question
caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the headers about an
"allowlist_med".  Which means that there must be something not right in the
filter itself.  This particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as
a MAILFROM with the full email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
there a better way to do that?

Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug mode when the next
one comes through later today?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi Everyone -
 
I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):
 
ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM0   ENDSWITH[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REVDNS  0   ENDSWITH.asaenet.org

However, these messages are still getting caught.  When I look at the
headers, it doesn't even appear that it is running this test.  I have the
test listed in $default$.junkmail as ALLOWLIST_MED  WARN

And in diags.txt as
ALLOWLIST_MED  FILTER

I would like to add some others as well but need to get at least one working
first.

Any help is appreciated (as

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread David Barker
Where are you getting the MAILFROM address [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Do you have a header you can post that is addressed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:19 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi David -

OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the log:

11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at first
hit.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking countries:  US .
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 .  Total weight
= -3.

However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails in question
caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the headers about an
"allowlist_med".  Which means that there must be something not right in the
filter itself.  This particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as
a MAILFROM with the full email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
there a better way to do that?

Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug mode when the next
one comes through later today?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi Everyone -
 
I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):
 
ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM0   ENDSWITH[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REVDNS  0   ENDSWITH.asaenet.org

However, these messages are still getting caught.  When I look at the
headers, it doesn't even appear that it is running this test.  I have the
test listed in $default$.junkmail as ALLOWLIST_MED  WARN

And in diags.txt as
ALLOWLIST_MED  FILTER

I would like to add some others as well but need to get at least one working
first.

Any help is appreciated (as always)!

Todd





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Todd Richards
Hi David -

OK, it appears that it is running the test.  Here is a snip of the log:

11/09/2006 13:14:20.937 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SPAM.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.312 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-GERMAN.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-SURBL.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.390 q7df6083c3523.smd Filter: Will stop at first
hit.
11/09/2006 13:14:21.781 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:22.875 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\iMail\Declude\Filters\Anti-Gibberish.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\imail\Declude\Filters\FILTER-COUNTRY.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Checking countries:  US .
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_low.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.953 q7df6083c3523.smd Doing filter file
D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_high.txt.
11/09/2006 13:14:23.968 q7df6083c3523.smd nIPNOTINMX:-3 .  Total weight
= -3.

However, before I ran the Debug mode I had one of the emails in question
caught in the trap, and there was nothing in the headers about an
"allowlist_med".  Which means that there must be something not right in the
filter itself.  This particular newsletter is listed in my ALLOWLIST_MED as
a MAILFROM with the full email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is
there a better way to do that?

Should I wait to see what the logs look like on the debug mode when the next
one comes through later today?

Todd


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:07 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi Everyone -
 
I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):
 
ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM0   ENDSWITH[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REVDNS  0   ENDSWITH.asaenet.org

However, these messages are still getting caught.  When I look at the
headers, it doesn't even appear that it is running this test.  I have the
test listed in $default$.junkmail as ALLOWLIST_MED  WARN

And in diags.txt as
ALLOWLIST_MED  FILTER

I would like to add some others as well but need to get at least one working
first.

Any help is appreciated (as always)!

Todd





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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread David Barker
Todd,

Run you global.cfg on DEBUG see if the test is being called correctly.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd
Richards
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:54 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

Hi Everyone -
 
I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):
 
ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM0   ENDSWITH[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REVDNS  0   ENDSWITH.asaenet.org

However, these messages are still getting caught.  When I look at the
headers, it doesn't even appear that it is running this test.  I have the
test listed in $default$.junkmail as ALLOWLIST_MED  WARN

And in diags.txt as
ALLOWLIST_MED  FILTER

I would like to add some others as well but need to get at least one working
first.

Any help is appreciated (as always)!

Todd





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[Declude.JunkMail] Negative weight isn't working

2006-11-09 Thread Todd Richards
Hi Everyone -
 
I've been playing with some negative weighting, but it doesn't seem to be
working.  I have the following in my global.cfg file (down towards the
bottom):
 
ALLOWLIST_MED  filter  D:\IMail\Declude\filters\allowlist_med.txt x -30 0

In my allowlist_med.txt file, I have the following entries:
MAILFROM0   ENDSWITH[EMAIL PROTECTED]
REVDNS  0   ENDSWITH.asaenet.org

However, these messages are still getting caught.  When I look at the
headers, it doesn't even appear that it is running this test.  I have the
test listed in $default$.junkmail as 
ALLOWLIST_MED  WARN

And in diags.txt as 
ALLOWLIST_MED  FILTER

I would like to add some others as well but need to get at least one working
first.

Any help is appreciated (as always)!

Todd





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