Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems
Thanks everyone for your input. It looks like my install is now working as it should be. The slow delivery times was caused by performance problems on a remote mail server and a MX record that should have been reconfigured. The simple story was that 5+ years ago I was running backup smtp servers for some of my clients. The problem was that I still had one of these clients setup with me running a backup to their mailserver. What looks to have happened is that the recent increase in mail caused their mail server beyond capacity which caused an assortment of problems from not responding, to starting to accept mail and then stall. So when their mail server was choking mail started to come into my Alligate server. When my Alligate tried to verify users it would contact the sick mail server which for all practical purposes tar-pitted the requests. Eventually Alligate was using all it's resources to establish connections to a mail server that could not complete requests, and email simply backed up. Once AGSupport reconfigured my AG box to not accept mail for the problem domain the problem went away (after is cleared it's backlog). The 2nd issue was a new domain I added I misspelled the domain name. Even after I had checked the spelling on not less than 5 occasions I missed the typo each time. Once that was corrected AG worked as expected. -- From: Scott Fosseen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems | From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I | have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on | a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and | mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES)
Yeah. Glad to hear that it all works for you. ALWAYS copy and paste domain names and email addresses!!! Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet Services W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: 29 August 2008 16:03 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems Thanks everyone for your input. It looks like my install is now working as it should be. The slow delivery times was caused by performance problems on a remote mail server and a MX record that should have been reconfigured. The simple story was that 5+ years ago I was running backup smtp servers for some of my clients. The problem was that I still had one of these clients setup with me running a backup to their mailserver. What looks to have happened is that the recent increase in mail caused their mail server beyond capacity which caused an assortment of problems from not responding, to starting to accept mail and then stall. So when their mail server was choking mail started to come into my Alligate server. When my Alligate tried to verify users it would contact the sick mail server which for all practical purposes tar-pitted the requests. Eventually Alligate was using all it's resources to establish connections to a mail server that could not complete requests, and email simply backed up. Once AGSupport reconfigured my AG box to not accept mail for the problem domain the problem went away (after is cleared it's backlog). The 2nd issue was a new domain I added I misspelled the domain name. Even after I had checked the spelling on not less than 5 occasions I missed the typo each time. Once that was corrected AG worked as expected. -- From: Scott Fosseen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems | From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I | have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on | a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and | mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES)
Always copy and paste, and always don't allow a trailing space at the end of the domain name to also be pasted because if you do, Alligate will ignore it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:53 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES) Yeah. Glad to hear that it all works for you. ALWAYS copy and paste domain names and email addresses!!! Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet Services W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: 29 August 2008 16:03 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems Thanks everyone for your input. It looks like my install is now working as it should be. The slow delivery times was caused by performance problems on a remote mail server and a MX record that should have been reconfigured. The simple story was that 5+ years ago I was running backup smtp servers for some of my clients. The problem was that I still had one of these clients setup with me running a backup to their mailserver. What looks to have happened is that the recent increase in mail caused their mail server beyond capacity which caused an assortment of problems from not responding, to starting to accept mail and then stall. So when their mail server was choking mail started to come into my Alligate server. When my Alligate tried to verify users it would contact the sick mail server which for all practical purposes tar-pitted the requests. Eventually Alligate was using all it's resources to establish connections to a mail server that could not complete requests, and email simply backed up. Once AGSupport reconfigured my AG box to not accept mail for the problem domain the problem went away (after is cleared it's backlog). The 2nd issue was a new domain I added I misspelled the domain name. Even after I had checked the spelling on not less than 5 occasions I missed the typo each time. Once that was corrected AG worked as expected. -- From: Scott Fosseen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems | From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I | have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on | a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and | mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES)
fyi - Alligate has started its own maillist - to join: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The mailing list address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Nick Dave Marchette wrote: Always copy and paste, and always don't allow a trailing space at the end of the domain name to also be pasted because if you do, Alligate will ignore it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:53 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES) Yeah. Glad to hear that it all works for you. ALWAYS copy and paste domain names and email addresses!!! Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet Services W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: 29 August 2008 16:03 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems Thanks everyone for your input. It looks like my install is now working as it should be. The slow delivery times was caused by performance problems on a remote mail server and a MX record that should have been reconfigured. The simple story was that 5+ years ago I was running backup smtp servers for some of my clients. The problem was that I still had one of these clients setup with me running a backup to their mailserver. What looks to have happened is that the recent increase in mail caused their mail server beyond capacity which caused an assortment of problems from not responding, to starting to accept mail and then stall. So when their mail server was choking mail started to come into my Alligate server. When my Alligate tried to verify users it would contact the sick mail server which for all practical purposes tar-pitted the requests. Eventually Alligate was using all it's resources to establish connections to a mail server that could not complete requests, and email simply backed up. Once AGSupport reconfigured my AG box to not accept mail for the problem domain the problem went away (after is cleared it's backlog). The 2nd issue was a new domain I added I misspelled the domain name. Even after I had checked the spelling on not less than 5 occasions I missed the typo each time. Once that was corrected AG worked as expected. -- From: Scott Fosseen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems | From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I | have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on | a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and | mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems (ES)
I run Alligate also in front of my Imail server. I got it for the backscatter. No more backscatter my friends! Alligate is brilliant!! If you are having a delay of 2 hours, have you checked your /imail/proc/ folder to see if there is anything sitting in there? Youa re running smarter mail of course so dont have a /imail/proc/ folder but there must be the equivalent in smartermail. ;o) Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet Services W: www.123marbella.com E : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig Edmonds - PGP Public Key To obtain a copy of my PGP Public Key, please go to the following URL: http://www.123marbella.com/pgp/ Craig Edmonds - LinkedIN Information To view my LinkedIn Profile, please go to the following URL http://www.linkedin.com/in/craigedmonds LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry vanderzand Sent: 26 August 2008 03:32 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems I love Alligate. We have never had any problems with it and it takes care of over 80% of the spam at the front end. We run it on the same box as my imail software and when we implemented it the server went from an average of 90% utilization to around 50%. I find it well worth it Harry Vanderzand NEW ADDRESS Effective Jan 24, 2008 Intown Internet 117 Ruskview Road Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1 519-741-1222 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. I have settings that revert back to previous settings after I save, and I have not been able to tell how many messages are waiting to be delivered to my Smarter mail server running declude. I know I am only running an eval, but my first support request took a while. I am currently have 1 Smarter mail district complaining about long delivery times. The one email I looked up my Alligate server said it received the mail at 2pm, but my Smarter mail server shows delivery at 4pm. I was not able to find anywhere in the alligate logs where it tried to send the message to my Smarter mail server. My Smarter mail server is running on a Dual Quad core system and is hardly tasked. I guess I am looking for a word of encouragement from the alligate supporters out there that I should stay diligent or if there are any tips you can share. _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Your are asked to notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency. Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. - _ Scott Fosseen - Systems Engineer - Prairie Lakes AEA - http://www.aea8.k12.ia.us/tech _ You can go and find a mailbox right now, open the door to a tin box - tin door, no lock - with unencrypted information in English, sealed in a paper-thin envelope with spit, yet people are worried about online privacy. - Scott McNeely, CEO, Sun Microsystems _ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems
Hi Scott, Scott Fosseen wrote: I guess I am looking for a word of encouragement from the alligate supporters out there that I should stay diligent or if there are any tips you can share. Alligate is unbelievable with what it does and with what little resource it uses. It is the way to go - be patient and support at Alligate will assist. Regarding delays - where are the emails being queued? What do the logs say? -Nick --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems
Scott, I run Alligate as well, in front of my Imail server. Took it from 100% CPU all day to averaging 20%. It works really well for me, and I am delivering to several different domains including districts (GroupWise). Have you tweaked with any of the settings or are you simply running it out of the box? Daniel Slentz Network Engineer Oasis Online -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 3:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. I have settings that revert back to previous settings after I save, and I have not been able to tell how many messages are waiting to be delivered to my Smarter mail server running declude. I know I am only running an eval, but my first support request took a while. I am currently have 1 Smarter mail district complaining about long delivery times. The one email I looked up my Alligate server said it received the mail at 2pm, but my Smarter mail server shows delivery at 4pm. I was not able to find anywhere in the alligate logs where it tried to send the message to my Smarter mail server. My Smarter mail server is running on a Dual Quad core system and is hardly tasked. I guess I am looking for a word of encouragement from the alligate supporters out there that I should stay diligent or if there are any tips you can share. _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Your are asked to notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency. Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. - _ Scott Fosseen - Systems Engineer - Prairie Lakes AEA - http://www.aea8.k12.ia.us/tech _ You can go and find a mailbox right now, open the door to a tin box - tin door, no lock - with unencrypted information in English, sealed in a paper-thin envelope with spit, yet people are worried about online privacy. - Scott McNeely, CEO, Sun Microsystems _ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems
From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. I have settings that revert back to previous settings after I save, and I have not been able to tell how many messages are waiting to be delivered to my Smarter mail server running declude. I know I am only running an eval, but my first support request took a while. I am currently have 1 Smarter mail district complaining about long delivery times. The one email I looked up my Alligate server said it received the mail at 2pm, but my Smarter mail server shows delivery at 4pm. I was not able to find anywhere in the alligate logs where it tried to send the message to my Smarter mail server. My Smarter mail server is running on a Dual Quad core system and is hardly tasked. I guess I am looking for a word of encouragement from the alligate supporters out there that I should stay diligent or if there are any tips you can share. _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Your are asked to notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency. Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. - _ Scott Fosseen - Systems Engineer - Prairie Lakes AEA - http://www.aea8.k12.ia.us/tech _ You can go and find a mailbox right now, open the door to a tin box - tin door, no lock - with unencrypted information in English, sealed in a paper-thin envelope with spit, yet people are worried about online privacy. - Scott McNeely, CEO, Sun Microsystems _ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems
I love Alligate. We have never had any problems with it and it takes care of over 80% of the spam at the front end. We run it on the same box as my imail software and when we implemented it the server went from an average of 90% utilization to around 50%. I find it well worth it Harry Vanderzand NEW ADDRESS Effective Jan 24, 2008 Intown Internet 117 Ruskview Road Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1 519-741-1222 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fosseen Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:19 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Alligate Problems From the recommendations from this list I am currently evaling alligate. I have to say my installation has been plagued with problems. I installed on a fresh HP DL360 G3 with dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon processors, 4 gig of ram, and mirrored Ultra320 SCSI 72 Gig drives. I have settings that revert back to previous settings after I save, and I have not been able to tell how many messages are waiting to be delivered to my Smarter mail server running declude. I know I am only running an eval, but my first support request took a while. I am currently have 1 Smarter mail district complaining about long delivery times. The one email I looked up my Alligate server said it received the mail at 2pm, but my Smarter mail server shows delivery at 4pm. I was not able to find anywhere in the alligate logs where it tried to send the message to my Smarter mail server. My Smarter mail server is running on a Dual Quad core system and is hardly tasked. I guess I am looking for a word of encouragement from the alligate supporters out there that I should stay diligent or if there are any tips you can share. _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Your are asked to notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency. Prairie Lakes Area Education Agency accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. - _ Scott Fosseen - Systems Engineer - Prairie Lakes AEA - http://www.aea8.k12.ia.us/tech _ You can go and find a mailbox right now, open the door to a tin box - tin door, no lock - with unencrypted information in English, sealed in a paper-thin envelope with spit, yet people are worried about online privacy. - Scott McNeely, CEO, Sun Microsystems _ --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
